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Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....
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On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If visible, it looks **** if they aren't. The wall does have to be vertical |
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On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If visible, it looks **** if they aren't. The wall does have to be vertical but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ... |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote: On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If visible, it looks **** if they aren't. The wall does have to be vertical but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ... the English won't know that word' -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally. Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic... -- "In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is true: it is true because it is powerful." Lucas Bergkamp |
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On 10/03/2020 09:45, charles wrote:
In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote: On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If visible, it looks **** if they aren't. The wall does have to be vertical but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ... the English won't know that word' But we can look it up. -- "In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is true: it is true because it is powerful." Lucas Bergkamp |
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On 10/03/2020 09:45, charles wrote:
In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote: On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If visible, it looks **** if they aren't. The wall does have to be vertical but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ... the English won't know that word' that is why I used it...tee hee |
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On 10/03/2020 10:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/2020 09:45, charles wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote: On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If visible, it looks **** if they aren't. The wall does have to be vertical but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ... the English won't know that word' But we can look it up. and make yourselves look knowledgeable.... |
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You can get brick, block and stone walls that follow the slope of the land and look OK but my preference is for a stepped wall with level courses. I think the essential thing is to get the courses in line if you are following the slope nothing looks more unaesthetic than courses with uneven mortar lines and bricks out of alignment with their neighbours.
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote: In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally. Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic... I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. -- Roger Hayter |
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charles wrote: In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote: On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If visible, it looks **** if they aren't. The wall does have to be vertical but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ... the English won't know that word' Makes some sense when you watch it being applied. ;-) -- *Heart attacks... God's revenge for eating his animal friends Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Roger Hayter wrote:
I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. Indeed so. The walled garden at Calke Abbey has a section originally built like that, but later work has raised it and those courses are tapered in to be (nearer) horizontal. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. |
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On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote: In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally. Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic... I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just wondered what people thought .... |
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On 10/03/2020 11:11, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote: I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. Indeed so. The walled garden at Calke Abbey has a section originally built like that, but later work has raised it and those courses are tapered in to be (nearer) horizontal. Chris I was thinking more of waving up and down rather than like you describe.... |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote: In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally. Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic... I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just wondered what people thought .... If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have thought. -- Roger Hayter |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:11, Chris J Dixon wrote: Roger Hayter wrote: I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. Indeed so. The walled garden at Calke Abbey has a section originally built like that, but later work has raised it and those courses are tapered in to be (nearer) horizontal. Chris I was thinking more of waving up and down rather than like you describe.... You mean regardless of the lie of the land? That just sounds like poor workmanship. Isn't there some rule about how thick a mortar bed can safely be? -- Roger Hayter |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ... Nope, most obviously with brick walls. I think not .... We've noticed that. |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 0123 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard is out of Bed and TROLLING, already!!!! LOL
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 01:23:29 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH senile troll**** 01:23??? AGAIN? ROTFLOL! -- Bod addressing senile Rot: "Rod, you have a sick twisted mind. I suggest you stop your mindless and totally irresponsible talk. Your mouth could get you into a lot of trouble." Message-ID: |
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"Roger Hayter" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote: In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally. Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic... I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just wondered what people thought .... If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have thought. You'd be wrong if it follows the lie of the land and the slope isnt huge. |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 02:286 am in Australia and the Senile Pest has been out of Bed and TROLLING for OVER AN HOUR already!!!! LOL
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 02:28:05 +1100, John_j, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: FLUSH senile asshole's troll**** 02:28??? So your first hour of trolling is over already! Still another ten or more hours of your lonely trolling ahead of you, eh, you clinically insane senile asshole? -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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If you want to ask a question fine, but if you do for goodness sake include
context to the question or people will shove into their back corner of their newsreaders where all the cobwebs and spiders live. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... |
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On 10/03/2020 11:42, Roger Hayter wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 11:11, Chris J Dixon wrote: Roger Hayter wrote: I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. Indeed so. The walled garden at Calke Abbey has a section originally built like that, but later work has raised it and those courses are tapered in to be (nearer) horizontal. Chris I was thinking more of waving up and down rather than like you describe.... You mean regardless of the lie of the land? That just sounds like poor workmanship. Isn't there some rule about how thick a mortar bed can safely be? probably but nothing could be done.... |
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On 10/03/2020 11:35, Roger Hayter wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote: In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally. Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic... I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just wondered what people thought .... If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have thought. can't do that kind of thing "looks likely" doesn't stand up in court ..... |
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On 10/03/2020 14:23, Rod Speed wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ... Nope, most obviously with brick walls. I think not .... We've noticed that. good man |
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On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:47:52 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:35, Roger Hayter wrote: Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote: In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally. Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic... I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just wondered what people thought .... If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have thought. can't do that kind of thing "looks likely" doesn't stand up in court ..... What was the reason for trying to condemn it? |
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On 10/03/2020 09:45, charles wrote:
In article , Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote: On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .... If visible, it looks **** if they aren't. The wall does have to be vertical but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ... the English won't know that word' We can make a good guess at it though - and Google confirms that it was correct. SteveW |
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On Wednesday, 11 March 2020 08:34:33 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 11/03/2020 08:03, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 21:32, tabbypurr wrote: On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:47:52 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote: On 10/03/2020 11:35, Roger Hayter wrote: Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ..... If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally. Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic... I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level, following at least about one in twenty slopes.Â*Â* In a hilly part of the country this probably would not work. thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just wondered what people thought .... If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have thought. can't do that kind of thing "looks likely" doesn't stand up in court ..... What was the reason for trying to condemn it? we had never seen any thing but level coursed brickwork before ..... fear of the unknown .... there's a fair bit of unlevel out there, (bungaroosh probably being the ultimate). I wasn't aware of arched brickwork being considered a problem. Generally I'm not aware of it being a risk unless the angles involved are not mild. But it's all water under the watery thing now. NT |
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