I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of a
wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill

On 06/02/2020 03:00, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of a
wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill
Epoxy will do it.

Or polyester resin (fibreglass)


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On Thursday, 6 February 2020 03:00:21 UTC, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of a
wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill

Or "Gorilla".

What really? Outside?
The only problem is that you may see the old crack since some loss of the
surface is likely when it was broken.
Brian

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On Thursday, 6 February 2020 03:00:21 UTC, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of a
wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill

Or "Gorilla".

On Thursday, 6 February 2020 03:00:21 UTC, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of a
wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill

I have used polyurethane glue for similar things. It was later painted over (masonry paint on an outside wall) but had lasted a few years before that was done. Make sure it is not in any way wet, just the humidity in the air should be sufficient for it to set. If there is too much, it will foam and push the pieces apart. You want, as nearly as possible, no foaming.

Obviously, not for serious structural uses!

Is that Urethane Bond by Dow Corning. I had a tube of that, would glue
anything, but ever so slightly pliable afterwards. Cannot seem to get it now
though.
Brian

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On Thursday, 6 February 2020 03:00:21 UTC, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of a
wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill

I have used polyurethane glue for similar things. It was later painted over
(masonry paint on an outside wall) but had lasted a few years before that
was done. Make sure it is not in any way wet, just the humidity in the air
should be sufficient for it to set. If there is too much, it will foam and
push the pieces apart. You want, as nearly as possible, no foaming.

Obviously, not for serious structural uses!

Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with moderate
amounts of water.
So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone (no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.

Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

On 06/02/2020 07:17, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
What really? Outside?

Brian

On 06/02/2020 10:45, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with moderate
amounts of water.
Â*So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone (no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.

Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

My car's wing mirror has been held on with araldite for the last year.
Is that not waterproof?




On 06/02/2020 07:17, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
What really? Outside?

Â* Brian

On 06/02/2020 06:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/02/2020 03:00, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of
a wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill
Epoxy will do it.

+1

You might want to add some alumina or similar light pigment to the epoxy
to roughly match the colour of the stone or you will see the crack.

Or polyester resin (fibreglass)

Not quite as strong (but it may not need to be).

I wouldn't recommend a PU space filling glue. They are intended to foam
and whilst they do have excellent adhesion go yellow brown with time. It
also has a tendency to push the pieces apart if they are not clamped.

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On 06/02/2020 10:58, GB wrote:
On 06/02/2020 10:45, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with moderate
amounts of water.
Â*Â*So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone (no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.

Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

My car's wing mirror has been held on with araldite for the last year.
Is that not waterproof?


most epoxy is mildly hygroscopic, so water weakens it, It is once fully
water soaked, not really 'leaky' though

For a large join I'd use polyester, but that two pack epoxy 'plasticene'
- 'Milliput' - is good for garden use..



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In message , GB
writes
On 06/02/2020 10:45, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with moderate
amounts of water.
*So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone (no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.
Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

My car's wing mirror has been held on with araldite for the last year.
Is that not waterproof?

Ha! Mine too. Or at least the plastic cover. I replaced the first one,
£40.00. On the second occasion I decided araldite is cheaper. Strangely,
despite whinging about the visible glue lines, she has not broken this
one:-)

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On 06/02/2020 11:45, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , GB
writes
On 06/02/2020 10:45, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with moderate
amounts of water.
Â*Â*So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone (no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.
Â*Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

My car's wing mirror has been held on with araldite for the last year.
Is that not waterproof?

Ha! Mine too. Or at least the plastic cover. I replaced the first one,
£40.00. On the second occasion I decided araldite is cheaper. Strangely,
despite whinging about the visible glue lines, she has not broken this
one:-)

Thats always te 2ay. about one year into my brand new defender a
pheasant flew into the wing and put a big dent in above the headlight.
"No wprries, its bound to get another bash and then I'll sort the lot out'

I sold it 5 years later without a scratch on it, and the dent still in it...


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On Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:21:53 UTC, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Is that Urethane Bond by Dow Corning. I had a tube of that, would glue
anything, but ever so slightly pliable afterwards. Cannot seem to get it now
though.
Brian

It was, probably, Polyurethane Wood Glue 750g 30 Minute By Everbuild. But could have been same sort of product from another company. Likely cheapest from Screwfix at the time.

On 06/02/2020 03:00, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of a
wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill

Limestone with lots of bond surface area? Paint the faces with diluted
PVA to seal them, then use PVA to glue.

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Clive

I got mine from Block and Quail, as it was at the start.
Brian

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On Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:21:53 UTC, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Is that Urethane Bond by Dow Corning. I had a tube of that, would glue
anything, but ever so slightly pliable afterwards. Cannot seem to get it
now
though.
Brian

It was, probably, Polyurethane Wood Glue 750g 30 Minute By Everbuild. But
could have been same sort of product from another company. Likely cheapest
from Screwfix at the time.

On Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:45:53 UTC, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with moderate
amounts of water.
So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone (no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.

Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

On 06/02/2020 07:17, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
What really? Outside?

Brian


The original Gorilla glue which is set by water is waterproof once set. I have used it for similar applications.

Jonathan

On 06/02/2020 11:45, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , GB
writes
On 06/02/2020 10:45, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with moderate
amounts of water.
Â*Â*So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone (no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.
Â*Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

My car's wing mirror has been held on with araldite for the last year.
Is that not waterproof?

Ha! Mine too. Or at least the plastic cover. I replaced the first one,
£40.00. On the second occasion I decided araldite is cheaper. Strangely,
despite whinging about the visible glue lines, she has not broken this
one:-)


My wife told me that because the crane was badly parked and blocking the
road, it was *necessary* to hit the wing mirror on it. Perhaps someone
can explain this to me some time?

On 06/02/2020 13:30, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 06/02/2020 03:00, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of
a wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill

Limestone with lots of bond surface area?Â* Paint the faces with diluted
PVA to seal them, then use PVA to glue.

Outside in the rain? stupid.


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"GB" wrote in message
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On 06/02/2020 11:45, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , GB
writes
On 06/02/2020 10:45, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with
moderate
amounts of water.
So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone (no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.
Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

My car's wing mirror has been held on with araldite for the last year.
Is that not waterproof?

Ha! Mine too. Or at least the plastic cover. I replaced the first one,
£40.00. On the second occasion I decided araldite is cheaper. Strangely,
despite whinging about the visible glue lines, she has not broken this
one:-)


My wife told me that because the crane was badly parked and blocking the
road, it was *necessary* to hit the wing mirror on it. Perhaps someone can
explain this to me some time?

Presumably she means that there wasnt enough room to get
thru without hitting the mirror and she didnt realise that you
can manually fold the mirror against the car body with the cars
that dont have electric folding mirrors.

On 06/02/2020 16:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/02/2020 13:30, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 06/02/2020 03:00, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is
a clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top
of a wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's
an adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill

Limestone with lots of bond surface area?Â* Paint the faces with
diluted PVA to seal them, then use PVA to glue.

Outside in the rain? stupid.

Use an umbrella then. But seriously, does that mean all my 25 year old
Bath stone repairs I did when we moved in are going to fail?

Better move soon, thanks for the warning.

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Cheers
Clive

On 06/02/2020 17:54, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 06/02/2020 16:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/02/2020 13:30, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 06/02/2020 03:00, williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is
a clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top
of a wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's
an adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill

Limestone with lots of bond surface area?Â* Paint the faces with
diluted PVA to seal them, then use PVA to glue.

Outside in the rain? stupid.

Use an umbrella then.Â* But seriously, does that mean all my 25 year old
Bath stone repairs I did when we moved in are going to fail?


yes

Better move soon, thanks for the warning.



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On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 03:30:53 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH troll****

03:30??? Yet AGAIN??? LOL Looks like it will be yet another long long lonely
miserable night for you, you clinically insane senile troll!

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On 06/02/2020 16:30, Rod Speed wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
...
On 06/02/2020 11:45, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , GB
writes
On 06/02/2020 10:45, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with
moderate
amounts of water.
Â* So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone
(no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.
Â*Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

My car's wing mirror has been held on with araldite for the last
year. Is that not waterproof?

Ha! Mine too. Or at least the plastic cover. I replaced the first
one, £40.00. On the second occasion I decided araldite is cheaper.
Strangely, despite whinging about the visible glue lines, she has not
broken this one:-)


My wife told me that because the crane was badly parked and blocking
the road, it was *necessary* to hit the wing mirror on it. Perhaps
someone can explain this to me some time?

Presumably she means that there wasnt enough room to get
thru without hitting the mirror and she didnt realise that you
can manually fold the mirror against the car body with the cars
that dont have electric folding mirrors.

It did have electric folding mirrors.

"GB" wrote in message
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On 06/02/2020 16:30, Rod Speed wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
...
On 06/02/2020 11:45, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , GB
writes
On 06/02/2020 10:45, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with
moderate
amounts of water.
So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone
(no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.
Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

My car's wing mirror has been held on with araldite for the last year.
Is that not waterproof?

Ha! Mine too. Or at least the plastic cover. I replaced the first one,
£40.00. On the second occasion I decided araldite is cheaper.
Strangely, despite whinging about the visible glue lines, she has not
broken this one:-)


My wife told me that because the crane was badly parked and blocking the
road, it was *necessary* to hit the wing mirror on it. Perhaps someone
can explain this to me some time?

Presumably she means that there wasnt enough room to get
thru without hitting the mirror and she didnt realise that you
can manually fold the mirror against the car body with the cars
that dont have electric folding mirrors.

It did have electric folding mirrors.

But did she know how to fold them ?

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 07:34:54 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling Arsetralian asshole's latest troll****

07:34 already? And STILL not able to go to sleep, you abnormal obnoxious
senile cretin? LOL

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MID:

williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of a
wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill
Ask the stone people or the people who glue sinks to stone, they make an
epoxy for the purpose Tenax for example
https://www.tenax4you.com/Adhesives-s/1916.htm

Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , GB
writes
On 06/02/2020 10:45, soup wrote:
Gorilla do a five minute epoxy that Gorilla state can cope with moderate
amounts of water.
Â*So would be okay as a mid stone in the top of the wall, end stone (no
mortar or other stones sheilding it ][from that side]) not so much.
Bound to be a fully waterproof epoxy out there.

My car's wing mirror has been held on with araldite for the last year.
Is that not waterproof?

Ha! Mine too. Or at least the plastic cover. I replaced the first one,
£40.00. On the second occasion I decided araldite is cheaper. Strangely,
despite whinging about the visible glue lines, she has not broken this
one:-)


£40? We lost a mirror when a Dutchman decided he needed the whole road and
part of the passing place Id pulled into to let him pass. £80 after some
hunting on EBay and that was 4 years or so back.

williamwright wrote:
I have a nice shaped limestone stone about a foot across. Trouble is a
clumsy clot broke it in two. It's a rounded stone for going on top of a
wall, and I'd like to use it again. Does anyone know if there's an
adhesive available for this sort of thing?

Bill


I watched a Stone Mason join a marble slab once. He drilled it for metal
dowels / pegs and used what seemed to be the two part epoxy which comes in
mastic style cartridges and mixes as you squeeze it out. He fitted the pegs
in one half. Then filled the holes in the other half and spread some epoxy
on the broken surface. Then assembled the beast, wiping the excess away.