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More gear than Carnaby Street in the 60s!
A bit of festive amusement, and perhaps something of interest for the
engineers here. I have a garage with a roller door which is opened and closed by a motor. A month ago it failed to open, and I had to use the manual winder handle to open it. Strangely, it still closed automatically without problem. Some checks showed it wasn't the remote or control box playing up - it was the motor itself. This was a "roller" or "tubular" motor. I'd never heard of these, but it was no trouble to order one on the garage door supplier's website. When it came it was a really strange beast. On reading the installation instructions I chickened out and got some local pros to do it (it took them about 2 hours), as it delivers 50Nm and I considered that could do some damage if I got it wrong. Anyway, they left me the old one they removed - which they confirmed was faulty - and I decided to dismantle it and see what was inside. I had previously looked on the internet to see if there was an "exploded" diagram of a tubular motor, but I couldn't find one with sufficient detail. The complete device itself is about 60 x 4.5 cm, with a motor at one end which is fixed to the wall, and a drive shaft at the other which engages with the roller door. What amazed me was the compound planetary gear. I've never seen such a complex arrangement of cogs and pinions! I never saw it in place in the roller door so don't know how it opened it. I can't get my head round exactly how this works; internally the motor gears (which have adjustable microswitches limiting the opening and closing range) turn the orange tube. The extreme right-hand end of the motor drive assembly has four screws which fix it to the orange tube. As the motor itself is fixed by the large rectangular plate at the left-hand end, when the motor turns the orange tube must turn. Note the starter capacitor fits between the motor and the planetary gear end, so there is no toothed drive shaft through from one end to the other. The fixed planetary ring gear photo shows how the orange tube gear must drive the planetary gear. The ring is fixed in place and not removable. However, that ring only goes down 2 or 3 cm. There are then no teeth until a cm or so above the plate where a toothed shaft comes through (this shaft would mesh with the centre of the three epicyclic cogs on the extreme left of the "disassembled compound planetary gear" photo, but where the other end of that shaft goes to I have no idea!). Unfortunately, no matter how I try I can't get that compound assembly fully back in the tube, so can't see how the motor would turn it when opening/closing the roller door. Anyway, somehow the tube rotates and meshes with the extreme right-hand teeth of the compound planetary gear. It's there my reasoning fails. Somehow the drive goes back through all those planet and carrier gears to drive the final sun gear, which itself leads to the flattened shaft at the extreme RH end of the compound planetary gear. That shaft goes through the middle of the "roller door drive mechanism" metal piece at the centre of that photo, which itself somehow joins to the plastic bit on the left (all held on by a circlip), and that somehow opens/shuts the roller door itself. Too many "somehows"! See photos he Tubular motor https://ibb.co/HHy0R0S Disassembled motor https://ibb.co/3cH3xT1 Drive motor and limit switches https://ibb.co/t8BWrfk Compound planetary gear https://ibb.co/mvdsd35 Disassembled compound planetary gear https://ibb.co/qNK4NjB Fixed planetary ring https://ibb.co/d5b27N2 Roller door drive mechanism https://ibb.co/xSDYXmJ I assume that the inertia of the roller door allows the gearing to work before it is able to move the door, but has anybody seen one of these and can explain exactly how it works? -- Jeff |
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