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Petrol in a Diesel car (ooops).
Folks,
Ive joined the ranks of idiots that accidentally went for the nice green pump at the petrol station instead of the smelly black one! Thankfully, I realised DURING filling, so stopped (of course!) and DID NOT start the engine. So having spoken with a few knowledgeable friends, I believe I can now just do as much as I can on the "remove and refill" front. What I have yet to find out is, how / where can I dispose of the evil petrol I remove?! I know halfords do oil disposal, but petrol too?? Or perhaps just my friendly neighbourhood mechanic would take it for a few quid? (What REALLY annoys me about this is that my father did the same thing a few weeks back, and I found it quite funny. I've stopped laughing now!) Thoughts and suggestions invited Cheers Steve, feeling particularly annoyed with himself. |
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Steve Hall wrote:
Folks, Ive joined the ranks of idiots that accidentally went for the nice green pump at the petrol station instead of the smelly black one! Thankfully, I realised DURING filling, so stopped (of course!) and DID NOT start the engine. So having spoken with a few knowledgeable friends, I believe I can now just do as much as I can on the "remove and refill" front. What I have yet to find out is, how / where can I dispose of the evil petrol I remove?! I know halfords do oil disposal, but petrol too?? Or perhaps just my friendly neighbourhood mechanic would take it for a few quid? AIUI, if you mix petrol in low volumes (10% or so), there should not be a problem. So, you could just buy a large petrol can, and then top up with the appropriate amount of this and proper diesel as you go. |
Petrol in a Diesel car (ooops).
Ive joined the ranks of idiots that accidentally went for the nice
green pump at the petrol station instead of the smelly black one! Thankfully, I realised DURING filling, so stopped (of course!) and DID NOT start the engine. So having spoken with a few knowledgeable friends, I believe I can now just do as much as I can on the "remove and refill" front. What I have yet to find out is, how / where can I dispose of the evil petrol I remove?! I know halfords do oil disposal, but petrol too?? Or perhaps just my friendly neighbourhood mechanic would take it for a few quid? (What REALLY annoys me about this is that my father did the same thing a few weeks back, and I found it quite funny. I've stopped laughing now!) Thoughts and suggestions invited how much petrol did you put in ? diesel engines will run happily (well, within boundaries) on petrol/diesel mix as long as there's more diesel if there's not too much petrol, top it up with diesel and keep topping it up so the ratio gets weaker fairly quickly then run it nearly dry and fill up with diesel that's what I did anyway and it was fine, about £10 was petrol but the tank held £60 so I just filled it up. I aint a mechanic so don't take that as gospel, ask a mechanic, but our car has done 160k miles and is still running sweet as a nut. |
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On 8 Aug 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Steve Hall wrote:
Thankfully, I realised DURING filling, so stopped (of course!) How much did you put in? Hhow much space for "dilution" with diesel is there? A couple of gallons (10l or so) of petrol into an empty tank the filled with diesel (asuming 10gallon + tank) I don't think would worry to much when you can squeeze a bit more diesel in do so to dilute it even more. Diesels are tough old devices, run on anything from cooking oil up. I wouldn't thrash or rev the engine to much for a couple of complete tankfuls though. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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What I have yet to find out is, how / where can I dispose of the evil
petrol I remove I had a similar problem in Greece after getting water in the tank. I asked my landlord if he'd mind me tipping it at the bottom of the garden. "No! Don't waste it", he said "we can use it on the weeds". Suffice to say that a short time later we both had singed eyebrows and the couple in the upstairs flat were woken by "an enormous flash". We did, however, clear some weeds. _____ www.4vans.com |
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"dp" no@mail wrote in message ... What I have yet to find out is, how / where can I dispose of the evil petrol I remove I had a similar problem in Greece after getting water in the tank. I asked my landlord if he'd mind me tipping it at the bottom of the garden. "No! Don't waste it", he said "we can use it on the weeds". Suffice to say that a short time later we both had singed eyebrows and the couple in the upstairs flat were woken by "an enormous flash". We did, however, clear some weeds. __ If this was petrol, and you are talking about the best part of a tank full, then I think you are both bloody lunatics, and lucky with it. :-) |
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On 08 Aug 2004, Mike Mitchell wrote
-snip- However, I can easily see how you could have made this mistake, and I believe the fuel companies should do more to warn people in some way. For instance, the type of nozzle for Diesel could be shaped in such a way that it would not fit on a petrol-driven vehicle, and vice versa. That's what they did in North America when catalytic converters and non-lead fuel came in (1970s): the pump nozzles were smaller, and the fuel inlet of the relevant cars was narrowed down with a plate which blocked you from using the larger (leaded) nozzle. It seems a simple enough thing to do -- minimal cost. -- Cheers, Harvey |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 17:49:00 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
That's what they did in North America when catalytic converters and non-lead fuel came in (1970s): the pump nozzles were smaller, and the fuel inlet of the relevant cars was narrowed down with a plate which blocked you from using the larger (leaded) nozzle. Obviously someone highly unobservant or only ever fuels diesels. Unleaded nozzels over here are also smaller with a restrictor plate in the filler to stop the larger leaded and diesel nozzels fitting. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 17:44:55 +0100, Mike Mitchell wrote:
but, like I say, I do consciously look, then look again, at the pump and the nozzle and the price BEFORE I press the trigger. Driving an unleaded petrol drinker I doubt I could get it wrong but I still check that the pump thinks it is delivering what I expect it to. Not so bad with just unleaded/diesel pumps but with those ones with super lo sulphur go faster costs more unleaded and/or diesel its much more of an issue. BTW filled up with bog standard BP unleaded at a place that had the option for super lo sulphur go faster costs more unleaded and my car is not happy. Lacks power and pinks compared with its the normal diet of Safeways bog standard unleaded petrol. The cynic in me says the standard BP stuff is crap to make you buy the expensive stuff... For instance, the type of nozzle for Diesel could be shaped in such a way that it would not fit on a petrol-driven vehicle, and vice versa. I guess you could make it ovoid or square/triangular (different diameter is already used for leaded/unleaded) but it would have to backwardly compatible, which sort of negates any benefit in the short term. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 16:56:48 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On 8 Aug 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Steve Hall wrote: Thankfully, I realised DURING filling, so stopped (of course!) How much did you put in? Hhow much space for "dilution" with diesel is there? A couple of gallons (10l or so) of petrol into an empty tank the filled with diesel (asuming 10gallon + tank) I don't think would worry to much when you can squeeze a bit more diesel in do so to dilute it even more. Diesels are tough old devices, run on anything from cooking oil up. The is a website to tell you how to get your diesel engine to run on cooking oil, they will even sell you cooking oil, with road fund duty paid, so you can do it legally. I wouldn't thrash or rev the engine to much for a couple of complete tankfuls though. |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 17:49:00 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle
wrote: On 08 Aug 2004, Mike Mitchell wrote -snip- However, I can easily see how you could have made this mistake, and I believe the fuel companies should do more to warn people in some way. For instance, the type of nozzle for Diesel could be shaped in such a way that it would not fit on a petrol-driven vehicle, and vice versa. That's what they did in North America when catalytic converters and non-lead fuel came in (1970s): the pump nozzles were smaller, and the fuel inlet of the relevant cars was narrowed down with a plate which blocked you from using the larger (leaded) nozzle. It seems a simple enough thing to do -- minimal cost. The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. Rick |
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No-one has said what happens if it is mostly petrol :-)
Seen it done on 325td & Peugeot 106 diesel o Blew the head gasket on the 325td ---- limped in that state back to the dealer as a corp pool car o Blew the head gasket & smoke pouring out on the 106 ---- had to be flat-bedded back to the dealer Both where *filled* + ran some distance on petrol. The 106 was eventually found by the police bucking/smoking 3mph. Policement (Transport, RRover) admitted he'd done the same ! A different nozzle would be A Good Idea :-) Tanks do have drain plugs, but that's a proper mechanic (re petrol :-) For just a bit of petrol, dilute it with diesel & limit load on the engine, I think the oil companies say to also change oil after - vested interest. -- DB. |
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On 08 Aug 2004, Dave Liquorice wrote
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 17:49:00 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle wrote: That's what they did in North America when catalytic converters and non-lead fuel came in (1970s): the pump nozzles were smaller, and the fuel inlet of the relevant cars was narrowed down with a plate which blocked you from using the larger (leaded) nozzle. Obviously someone highly unobservant or only ever fuels diesels. I've fuelled both unleaded and leaded here in the UK -- although there's no leaded any more (and my local petrol station has even stopped doing LRP) -- but I've never encountered restrictor plate in a UK car. Can't say for diesels -- never fuelled one. -- Cheers, Harvey |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 20:23:50 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
... but I've never encountered restrictor plate in a UK car. You probably wouldn't notice unless you tried to fill it with leaded/4*/LRP/diesel. My car has a small orfice, a 10 year old Mondeo, all cars I've fuelled that are fitted with a CAT have one. One way to kill a CAT is to feed it lead, a *very* expensive mistake. Can't say for diesels -- never fuelled one. AFAIK diesels have the standard leaded/4*/LRP/diesel orifice of about 1" dia. Unleaded nozzle/orifice is around 3/4" dia. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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Another offshoot from my recently expressed idea to make drivers pay for fuel first, then receive a one-time card to insert into the pump: If you're asked then whether you want petrol or Diesel, the card they give you would only work in the designated type of pump. Would it be wife proof. She put unleaded in my diesel as it was cheaper. Adam |
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short time later we both had singed eyebrows and the couple in the upstairs flat were woken by "an enormous flash". We did, however, clear some weeds. __ If this was petrol, and you are talking about the best part of a tank full, then I think you are both bloody lunatics, and lucky with it. :-) I've got it sussed now - I'm driving a diesel. |
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"Steve Hall" wrote in message om... Folks, Ive joined the ranks of idiots that accidentally went for the nice green pump at the petrol station instead of the smelly black one! Of course one could ask why you bought a car using truck fuel in the first place. |
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Rick Dipper wrote:
The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. That's more to do with a litigation cultire. Rick |
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"Rick Dipper" wrote in message ... The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the ..... corectness ...... of my statement. Rick The 'correctness' of that statement I doubt. Some of the best documentation is US. Problem is often with something translated from Japanese/Taiwanese etc. So I jump to defence of our American cousins, who are currently complaining about the high cost of gasoline at around $1.80 US per US gallon! (That's roughly 30 New Pence per litre). Here (Eastern Canada) we are currently paying the equivalent of about 37 New Pence per litre. It's less in central Canada. In Qatar where my son is, it costs the equivalent of 18 Canadian cents per litre; roughly 8 pence, having risen from 16 Can. cents per litre in January! And no sales taxes. I attribute the lack of devices in the UK to discourage the use of the wrong type of fuel to the general UK backwardness/slowness to adopt anything new; especially if it was devised/introduced elsewhere! And, gee, gosh darned it, you SHOULD be careful since your fuel costs so much more than elsewhere. Just as well distances in the UK are so much less! In year 2000 it cost about $200 Canadian for two of us to go the couple of hundred miles from Farnborough to Liverpool and back, in a small 4 cylinder car! And the country is almost flat! Here, that's my fuel bill for a month! BTW some 30 years back we had a VW diesel rabbit; it's handbook recommended the addition of a certain percentage of gasoline to diesel fuel to aid starting in very cold weather such as encountered in other parts of north America. Per the OP what I'd do is drain off some of the petrol/diesel mix in the tank now; and keep diluting the tank with more and more diesel. Over time chuck the gasoline diluted stuff back in a bit at a time until it's used up. Canuck. Ex Liverpudlian. |
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. That's more to do with a litigation cultire. But if the American had some common sense makers wouldn't need to spell out in words of one syllable what you shouldn't use a particular device for. The "it must be safe because I haven't be told it isn't" attitude is the first step to getting a Darwin Award. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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"Rick Dipper" wrote Singapore is the total opposite, you are not allowed to do it, unless the government has said you can ....... As a Dutch colleague said to me: Germany: It's forbidden unless it's permitted. England: It's permitted unless it's forbidden. Italy: It's permitted *especially* if it's forbidden. Steve S |
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 09:16:23 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. That's more to do with a litigation cultire. But if the American had some common sense makers wouldn't need to spell out in words of one syllable what you shouldn't use a particular device for. The "it must be safe because I haven't be told it isn't" attitude is the first step to getting a Darwin Award. Singapore is the total opposite, you are not allowed to do it, unless the government has said you can ....... Rick |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ill.com...
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. That's more to do with a litigation cultire. But if the American had some common sense makers wouldn't need to spell out in words of one syllable what you shouldn't use a particular device for. The "it must be safe because I haven't be told it isn't" attitude is the first step to getting a Darwin Award. Or the british woman who ignored the warning not to mix pool cleaning chemicals in the same bucket: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...09/ixhome.html "she accepts she did not correctly follow the instructions - which state that the chemicals should not be mixed in the same container - she says the labelling did not warn of the possibility of an explosion" Sorry, but I have no sympathy. MBQ |
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Mike Mitchell wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 19:48:13 GMT, Rick Dipper wrote: On 8 Aug 2004 08:04:46 -0700, (Steve Hall) wrote: Folks, Ive joined the ranks of idiots that accidentally went for the nice green pump at the petrol station instead of the smelly black one! Thankfully, I realised DURING filling, so stopped (of course!) and DID NOT start the engine. So having spoken with a few knowledgeable friends, I believe I can now just do as much as I can on the "remove and refill" front. What I have yet to find out is, how / where can I dispose of the evil petrol I remove?! I know halfords do oil disposal, but petrol too?? Or perhaps just my friendly neighbourhood mechanic would take it for a few quid? (What REALLY annoys me about this is that my father did the same thing a few weeks back, and I found it quite funny. I've stopped laughing now!) Thoughts and suggestions invited Cheers Steve, feeling particularly annoyed with himself. The manual for my IZUSU 4x4 advised the mixing of petrol into the diesel at low temperatures. The easiest way to dispose of petrol is to burn it, but be somewhat carefull if you try. I suppose you could always insert a card in the newsagents, asking if any local murderers have a body they want to dispose of... But those ruddy cards cost a fortune nowadays. And tend to get a poor response, not to mention many newsagents being reluctant to offer this, as it's very uncomfortable. |
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"MBQ" wrote in message om... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ill.com... On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. JUST HAD TO STICK THIS IN AT THIS POINT. DOES YOUR COMMENT ABOVE EXPLAIN WHY THE YANKS HAVE THE STRONGEST ECONOMY, LOWEST TAXES AND CHEAPEST LUXURY LIFE STYLE IN THEY WORLD. That's more to do with a litigation cultire. But if the American had some common sense makers wouldn't need to spell out in words of one syllable what you shouldn't use a particular device for. The "it must be safe because I haven't be told it isn't" attitude is the first step to getting a Darwin Award. Or the british woman who ignored the warning not to mix pool cleaning chemicals in the same bucket: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...09/ixhome.html "she accepts she did not correctly follow the instructions - which state that the chemicals should not be mixed in the same container - she says the labelling did not warn of the possibility of an explosion" Sorry, but I have no sympathy. MBQ |
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"Jimbo" (remove $ ) wrote in message ... "MBQ" wrote in message om... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ill.com... On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. JUST HAD TO STICK THIS IN AT THIS POINT. DOES YOUR COMMENT ABOVE EXPLAIN WHY THE YANKS HAVE THE STRONGEST ECONOMY, LOWEST TAXES AND CHEAPEST LUXURY LIFE STYLE IN THEY WORLD. The US exceeds the British on these points because of land, yes land. Sounds bizarre, but true. We, 60 million of us, are all rammed into just above 7% of the land mass. This creates an artificial land shortage ramping up land prices to the point were 2/3 of the value of the average home id the land value. Ludicrous. The hype about consumer debt omits that 80% of this debt is mortgage to out a small poorly built roof over ours heads. free land availability: means - lower land prices, means - cheaper commercial rents, means - more competitive in the world market place means - cheaper and larger homes. menas - the wife would not have to work to help pay the mortgage and be at home means - less delinquency because of the latch-key kids. The UK could easily be the world's No. 1 in standard of living and quality of life if we dropped the Medieval land/planning system we have. |
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"Jimbo" (remove $ ) wrote in message ... "MBQ" wrote in message om... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ill.com... On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. JUST HAD TO STICK THIS IN AT THIS POINT. DOES YOUR COMMENT ABOVE EXPLAIN WHY THE YANKS HAVE THE STRONGEST ECONOMY, LOWEST TAXES AND CHEAPEST LUXURY LIFE STYLE IN THEY WORLD. The US exceeds the British on these points because of land, yes land. Sounds bizarre, but true. We, 60 million of us, are all rammed into just above 7% of the land mass. This creates an artificial land shortage ramping up land prices to the point were 2/3 of the value of the average home id the land value. Ludicrous. The hype about consumer debt omits that 80% of this debt is mortgage to out a small poorly built roof over ours heads. free land availability: means - lower land prices, means - cheaper commercial rents, means - more competitive in the world market place means - cheaper and larger homes. menas - the wife would not have to work to help pay the mortgage and be at home means - less delinquency because of the latch-key kids. The UK could easily be the world's No. 1 in standard of living and quality of life if we dropped the Medieval land/planning system we have. He's right..for once.... -- Tony Sayer |
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 06:52:45 +0100, Mike Mitchell
wrote: I suppose you could always insert a card in the newsagents, asking if any local murderers have a body they want to dispose of... Crematoriums work at 1,000 degrees C. If you can get a bonfire upto that temperature then that's impressive. Graham |
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 20:01:39 GMT, Rick Dipper
wrote: On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 17:33:45 +0000 (UTC), "Jimbo" (remove $ ) wrote: "MBQ" wrote in message .com... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message whill.com... On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. JUST HAD TO STICK THIS IN AT THIS POINT. DOES YOUR COMMENT ABOVE EXPLAIN WHY THE YANKS HAVE THE STRONGEST ECONOMY, LOWEST TAXES AND CHEAPEST LUXURY LIFE STYLE IN THEY WORLD. YANKS are southern americians, northerners are insulted by the term. Rick Ummmm.. Other way round I think...... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 17:33:45 +0000 (UTC), "Jimbo"
(remove $ ) wrote: "MBQ" wrote in message . com... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message hill.com... On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. JUST HAD TO STICK THIS IN AT THIS POINT. DOES YOUR COMMENT ABOVE EXPLAIN WHY THE YANKS HAVE THE STRONGEST ECONOMY, LOWEST TAXES AND CHEAPEST LUXURY LIFE STYLE IN THEY WORLD. YANKS are southern americians, northerners are insulted by the term. Rick |
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"tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , IMM writes "Jimbo" (remove $ ) wrote in message ... "MBQ" wrote in message om... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ill.com... On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. JUST HAD TO STICK THIS IN AT THIS POINT. DOES YOUR COMMENT ABOVE EXPLAIN WHY THE YANKS HAVE THE STRONGEST ECONOMY, LOWEST TAXES AND CHEAPEST LUXURY LIFE STYLE IN THEY WORLD. The US exceeds the British on these points because of land, yes land. Sounds bizarre, but true. We, 60 million of us, are all rammed into just above 7% of the land mass. This creates an artificial land shortage ramping up land prices to the point were 2/3 of the value of the average home is the land value. Ludicrous. The hype about consumer debt omits that 80% of this debt is mortgage to put a small poorly built roof over ours heads. free land availability: means - lower land prices, means - cheaper commercial rents, means - more competitive in the world market place means - cheaper and larger homes. menas - the wife would not have to work to help pay the mortgage and be at home means - less delinquency because of the latch-key kids. The UK could easily be the world's No. 1 in standard of living and quality of life if we dropped the Medieval land/planning system we have. He's right..for once.... Always right. Kevin Cahill is working on his website, so far from fully finished. He has put all the land data for each county up though. http://www.hyperborea.plus.com/wobi/ |
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"Terry" wrote in message .. . "Rick Dipper" wrote in message ... The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the ..... corectness ...... of my statement. Rick The 'correctness' of that statement I doubt. Some of the best documentation is US. Totally correct. The US write simple clear English. I always use the US book Elements of Style of English by Strunck & White. The only way to write English. They also think clearer when forming sentences in their head to speak. Look at the average American being interviewed on TV. First time on TV and they sound as if they are seasoned presenters. I attribute the lack of devices in the UK to discourage the use of the wrong type of fuel to the general UK backwardness/slowness to adopt anything new; The Brits are weary of anything new that has not been tried. Modern, poorly designed and built flats and houses were built in the 1950-60s, so anything new, or new looking, is regarded with suspicion. Although they are fed propaganda to keep the old and reject the new in housing, and that our countryside is sacrosanct and beautiful, which it isn't for 90% of it. All to do with vested landed interest. They are not techophobic, with at one time having more PCs per head than any other country in the world. especially if it was devised/introduced elsewhere! And, gee, gosh darned it, you SHOULD be careful since your fuel costs so much more than elsewhere. Just as well distances in the UK are so much less! In year 2000 it cost about $200 Canadian for two of us to go the couple of hundred miles from Farnborough to Liverpool and back, in a small 4 cylinder car! And the country is almost flat! Here, that's my fuel bill for a month! BTW some 30 years back we had a VW diesel rabbit; it's handbook recommended the addition of a certain percentage of gasoline to diesel fuel to aid starting in very cold weather such as encountered in other parts of north America. Per the OP what I'd do is drain off some of the petrol/diesel mix in the tank now; and keep diluting the tank with more and more diesel. Over time chuck the gasoline diluted stuff back in a bit at a time until it's used up. Canuck. Ex Liverpudlian. |
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"Jimbo" (remove $ ) wrote in message ... "MBQ" wrote in message .com... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message whill.com... On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. JUST HAD TO STICK THIS IN AT THIS POINT. DOES YOUR COMMENT ABOVE EXPLAIN WHY THE YANKS HAVE THE STRONGEST ECONOMY, LOWEST TAXES AND CHEAPEST LUXURY LIFE STYLE IN THEY WORLD. The US exceeds the British on these points because of land, yes land. Sounds bizarre, but true. We, 60 million of us, are all rammed into just above 7% of the land mass. This creates an artificial land shortage ramping up land prices to the point were 2/3 of the value of the average home id the land value. Ludicrous. The hype about consumer debt omits that 80% of this debt is mortgage to out a small poorly built roof over ours heads. Actually the real reason is obvious when you go there. We mined and farmed and bred whilst Indians were just whooping and hollering. We are stuck with bugger all natural resources, whilst the colonists went over and stole the land, and are busy mining and farming and breeding. Ecventually the resources will be exahusted, the country will be overpopulated and polluted, and then it will be just as miserable as anywhere else. More miserable, because at least we have a system with dealing with the social issues that arise, but Merkins don't have any system apart from crash burn pillage shoot steal and rape. free land availability: means - lower land prices, means - cheaper commercial rents, means - more competitive in the world market place means - cheaper and larger homes. menas - the wife would not have to work to help pay the mortgage and be at home means - less delinquency because of the latch-key kids. The UK could easily be the world's No. 1 in standard of living and quality of life if we dropped the Medieval land/planning system we have. Zero to do with it. |
Petrol in a Diesel car (ooops).
Andy Hall wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 20:01:39 GMT, Rick Dipper wrote: On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 17:33:45 +0000 (UTC), "Jimbo" (remove $ ) wrote: "MBQ" wrote in message e.com... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message owhill.com... On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:17:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The general ability of the average americian is well below that of the average britisher, just look at an americian chansaw manual if you need any convincing about the corectness of my statement. JUST HAD TO STICK THIS IN AT THIS POINT. DOES YOUR COMMENT ABOVE EXPLAIN WHY THE YANKS HAVE THE STRONGEST ECONOMY, LOWEST TAXES AND CHEAPEST LUXURY LIFE STYLE IN THEY WORLD. YANKS are southern americians, northerners are insulted by the term. Rick Ummmm.. Other way round I think...... Yup. Rebels are the southerners. Or confederates. Or is it Dixie landers. .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
Petrol in a Diesel car (ooops).
IMM wrote:
The Brits are weary of anything new that has not been tried. But at lest they know how to spell. How can you be weary of anything you haven't tried? I am really weary of you tho. **** off, there's a good chap. |
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