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which option is the best for a lawn that has now become a dandelion bed
I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time.
In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. |
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On 06/12/2019 22:19, ss wrote:
On 06/12/2019 22:12, wrote: Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Above is what I would do. The problem is those weedkillers on sale to the general public are often jus as effective as a chocolate tea pot. The potential with dandelions is that the problem doesn't originate in your garden. You may clear the problem in your lawn and re-seed but next season thousands of new seeds will float in from your neighbours. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 23:35 6 Dec 2019, alan_m wrote:
On 06/12/2019 22:19, ss wrote: On 06/12/2019 22:12, wrote: Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Above is what I would do. The problem is those weedkillers on sale to the general public are often jus as effective as a chocolate tea pot. My local council once explained they were no longer permitted to use certain weedkillers on the streets but I was able to buy them. I suspect public restrictions have caught up to make us just as restricted. The potential with dandelions is that the problem doesn't originate in your garden. You may clear the problem in your lawn and re-seed but next season thousands of new seeds will float in from your neighbours. |
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On 06/12/2019 23:35, alan_m wrote:
On 06/12/2019 22:19, ss wrote: On 06/12/2019 22:12, wrote: Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Above is what I would do. The problem is those weedkillers on sale to the general public are often jus as effective as a chocolate tea pot. The potential with dandelions is that the problem doesn't originate in your garden. You may clear the problem in your lawn and re-seed but next season thousands of new seeds will float in from your neighbours. that is why a reguylar selective weed and feed is the answer. The ground is 'poisoned' against dandelions and they wont germinate -- "A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding". Marshall McLuhan |
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You can seed the bare bits, but the issue of the deep roots is going to end
up with a very bumpy lawn, just like mine.... Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "ss" wrote in message ... On 06/12/2019 22:12, wrote: Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Above is what I would do. |
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On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 10:06:36 AM UTC+11, wrote:
On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 9:33:06 AM UTC+11, Chris Green wrote: wrote: I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? Just mow it regularly. -- Chris Green · yes, if you have a second strip of grass around home mow there, after the first, that way you will have dandeleons uniformly all over your lawn areas !!! Joke apart, my personal experience is these damndeleons spread easily when you use the mower. Best, as I found,, is to remove them complete root stock and barrel using garden tool. And it needs patience careful not to seveer the root and do it more than 1 season b4 one can see them disappear. |
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On 07/12/2019 10:47, Chris Green wrote:
wrote: Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? Just mow it regularly. yes, if you have a second strip of grass around home mow there, after the first, that way you will have dandeleons uniformly all over your lawn areas !!! Ay? Are you saying that mowing will spread the seeds? *Regular* mowing would include before the seeds have formed, not to mention when the (few hopefully) newly sown dandelions are just starting to grow and will be fairly fragile. One years seed = 7 years weed. The tenants probably hasn't bothered to cut the grass regularly so the entire lawn is infested with dandelion seeds waiting to germinate. Paraquat the whole lot next may and re-turf. |
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In message , Andrew
writes On 07/12/2019 10:47, Chris Green wrote: wrote: Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? Just mow it regularly. yes, if you have a second strip of grass around home mow there, after the first, that way you will have dandeleons uniformly all over your lawn areas !!! Ay? Are you saying that mowing will spread the seeds? *Regular* mowing would include before the seeds have formed, not to mention when the (few hopefully) newly sown dandelions are just starting to grow and will be fairly fragile. One years seed = 7 years weed. The tenants probably hasn't bothered to cut the grass regularly so the entire lawn is infested with dandelion seeds waiting to germinate. Paraquat the whole lot next may and re-turf. Umm.. banned in the uk I think. Also only kills the green bits leaving the roots to recover. Roundup next May might be better but you will be laying turf on dead plant/roots rather than clean soil. -- Tim Lamb |
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 22:29:04 +0000, Chris Green wrote:
[snip] Just mow it regularly. Looking at the name, here is a contributor who should be taken seriously :-) |
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wrote:
I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. I looked at the price of selective weed killers and realised that paying a lawn care company to do it made more sense. No regrets. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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Tim+ Wrote in message:
wrote: I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. I looked at the price of selective weed killers and realised that paying a lawn care company to do it made more sense. No regrets. Tim Price of green thumb p.a.? Is your lawn weed free as a result? -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Jimk wrote:
Tim+ Wrote in message: wrote: I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. I looked at the price of selective weed killers and realised that paying a lawn care company to do it made more sense. No regrets. Tim Price of green thumb p.a.? Is your lawn weed free as a result? No idea about price of green thumb but our firm treats our lawn four time a year at about £30 a time. Lawn looks very good. Tm -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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Tim+ Wrote in message:
Jimk wrote: Tim+ Wrote in message: wrote: I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. I looked at the price of selective weed killers and realised that paying a lawn care company to do it made more sense. No regrets. Tim Price of green thumb p.a.? Is your lawn weed free as a result? No idea about price of green thumb but our firm treats our lawn four time a year at about £30 a time. Lawn looks very good. Tm I was helping at a friend's patio project over summer & realised he has some lawn care company on contract as they turned up for 10 minutes one day. The lawn? Green but choc full of moss, plantains, creeping buttercup etc etc. Not a good advert IMHO. -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 06/12/2019 22:12, wrote:
I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. Take an alternative approach: https://thenerdyfarmwife.com/12-thin...elion-flowers/ |
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On 07/12/2019 09:29, Richard wrote:
On 06/12/2019 22:12, wrote: I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. Take an alternative approach: https://thenerdyfarmwife.com/12-thin...elion-flowers/ Senior Management was able to 'recover' a lawn in a sorry state to a pretty good condition by using one of the off the shelf 'weed and feeds' in combination with some 'spot' weed killer for the stubborn ones. It took quite a long time, over a year, probably 2 or even 3. It seemed a crime when we later torn it up and paved the whole area. We faced with a similar problem in the current house we opted for new turf. The results were certainly quicker but a lot more expensive. |
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Find a local gardener who will not charge the earth but you may still need
to relay it or at least try to get it mowed often so the dandelions don't seed. Often though this problem occurs due to an adjacent plot running wild and seeding yours! I'm assuming you want real grass. There are those who say also that why worry if its green most oof the time, seed it with wild flowers. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. |
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On 07/12/2019 10:32, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
There are those who say also that why worry if its green most oof the time, seed it with wild flowers. My approach. I dig out the worst of the thistles and dandelions, but most other plants can stay. _Especially_ the bee orchids. Andy |
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On 07:39 7 Dec 2019, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:12:07 -0800 (PST), wrote: I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. Option 3 - selective weedkiller, Verdone (now called Weedol lawn killer) or similar. But not at this time of year. Wait until the Spring when things start growing again. You may need two applications, a few weeks apart. When the dandelions have died, scarify the larger bald patches with a rake and over-seed with a good lawn seed mix. Be vigilant and remove dandelion seedlings that will inevitably appear over time. http://tinyurl.com/vohcq44 and http://tinyurl.com/yxzrxhqp Every time I try selective weedkiller on a lawn, the grass is badly affected and doesn't really recover. I would use a good brand and not apply too much. I've given up with them. |
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Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:12:07 -0800 (PST), wrote: I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. Option 3 - selective weedkiller, Verdone (now called Weedol lawn killer) or similar. But not at this time of year. Wait until the Spring when things start growing again. You may need two applications, a few weeks apart. When the dandelions have died, scarify the larger bald patches with a rake and over-seed with a good lawn seed mix. Be vigilant and remove dandelion seedlings that will inevitably appear over time. http://tinyurl.com/vohcq44 and http://tinyurl.com/yxzrxhqp Verdone is what I tried initially but its expensive and the stuff available to the public seems pretty ineffective (or I wasnt using it correctly). Whatever, paying someone else to do all the treatment 4 times a year works for me and gives far better results than I ever achieved. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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, Tim+ writes Chris Hogg wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:12:07 -0800 (PST), wrote: I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. Option 3 - selective weedkiller, Verdone (now called Weedol lawn killer) or similar. But not at this time of year. Wait until the Spring when things start growing again. You may need two applications, a few weeks apart. When the dandelions have died, scarify the larger bald patches with a rake and over-seed with a good lawn seed mix. Be vigilant and remove dandelion seedlings that will inevitably appear over time. http://tinyurl.com/vohcq44 and http://tinyurl.com/yxzrxhqp Verdone is what I tried initially but its expensive and the stuff available to the public seems pretty ineffective (or I wasnt using it correctly). Whatever, paying someone else to do all the treatment 4 times a year works for me and gives far better results than I ever achieved. Hormone weed sprays work best in ideal growing conditions, ample moisture, warm days and nights. This needs to coincide with the ideal target weed growth stage:-) I have a knapsack sprayer which feeds a bar having 4 nozzles. Covering about 4'0" and used at walking speed it is possible to apply chemicals at the rate they were developed for: around 80 litres/ acre diluted. You can't do this with a watering can or very well with a single nozzle. -- Tim Lamb |
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On 07/12/2019 07:39, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:12:07 -0800 (PST), wrote: I have a lawn that was laid 10 years ago with Rolawn Medallion turf at a rental house. The tenant has been there all that time. In that time, it has now become a dandelion bed, i.e there is now very little grass visible and is now basically full of dandelions. I see I have several options: Dig it all up and lay new turf.... how long do the dandelion tap roots go down and how do I ensure I get the entire tap roots out? Apply a total weedkiller, wait several months and then reseed with grass seed Apply a selective weedkiller to kill just the dandelions and hope the grass then regrows and fills in the space left by the dandelions Pay GreenThumb or similar X quid a month and get them to visit several times a year and sort it out for me. What do the panel think? S. Option 3 - selective weedkiller, Verdone (now called Weedol lawn killer) or similar. But not at this time of year. Wait until the Spring when things start growing again. You may need two applications, a few weeks apart. When the dandelions have died, scarify the larger bald patches with a rake and over-seed with a good lawn seed mix. Be vigilant and remove dandelion seedlings that will inevitably appear over time. http://tinyurl.com/vohcq44 and http://tinyurl.com/yxzrxhqp Thats a bit more thorough than I am doing. But ues, definitely KEEP AT IT. -- "A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding". Marshall McLuhan |
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