Hi, I was just given a Creda Excel mini dryer. It has no hose fitting and no
condenser tray, is this normal, is the water just coming out as moisture?

Many thanks

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Try running it if the windows all steam up but no puddle appears, then yes!
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Hi, I was just given a Creda Excel mini dryer. It has no hose fitting and
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condenser tray, is this normal, is the water just coming out as moisture?

Many thanks

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Hi, I was just given a Creda Excel mini dryer. It has no hose fitting and no
condenser tray, is this normal, is the water just coming out as moisture?

Many thanks

The original, and cheaper, tumble dryers just discharged wet air and you
have to throw hose through an (open) window or a vent in a wall when you
use them. Discharging wet air into the room will *not* be acceptable.


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Hi, I was just given a Creda Excel mini dryer. It has no hose fitting and
no
condenser tray, is this normal, is the water just coming out as moisture?

Many thanks

The original, and cheaper, tumble dryers just discharged wet air and you
have to throw hose through an (open) window or a vent in a wall when you
use them. Discharging wet air into the room will *not* be acceptable.


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On 10/11/2019 14:14, Matthew Mitchell wrote:

Hi, I was just given a Creda Excel mini dryer.

What is the model number?

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On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 14:14:02 +0000, Matthew Mitchell wrote:

Hi, I was just given a Creda Excel mini dryer.

Check it's not one of the ones that have a recall (at last..) for
catching fire. It probably isn't being "mini" I think those affected
are all "full size".

It has no hose fitting and no condenser tray, is this normal, is the
water just coming out as moisture?

Hose as in water supply or hose as in 4" vent outlet?

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On 11/11/2019 14:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 14:14:02 +0000, Matthew Mitchell wrote:

Hi, I was just given a Creda Excel mini dryer.

Check it's not one of the ones that have a recall (at last..) for
catching fire.


Our Miele dryer stopped working, and on checking the code I discovered
it was stuffed up with fibres. The back of the machine was full, and the
exit hose was solid. Goodness knows how it had kept going for the last
20 years without ever being cleaned out. The point, though, is that it
stopped working, without drama. It can't be hard to have a temperature
sensor in the machine that shuts it off if it gets too hot.

I appreciate that Miele is more expensive than Creda, but this is a
foreseeable and serious fire risk, pretty easily avoidable with
appropriate sensors. It's an obvious design criterion.

I extracted a few kilos of very dry, finely shredded fibres from the
machine plus the hose. Normally, the fact the fibres are compressed
would help suppress fire, but when the dryer is running there's air
being blown in to fan any embers.

If Creda have sent out machines that catch fire easily, that's sheer idiocy.

On 11/11/2019 14:59, GB wrote:
On 11/11/2019 14:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 14:14:02 +0000, Matthew Mitchell wrote:

Hi, I was just given a Creda Excel mini dryer.

Check it's not one of the ones that have a recall (at last..) for
catching fire.


Our Miele dryer stopped working, and on checking the code I discovered
it was stuffed up with fibres. The back of the machine was full, and the
exit hose was solid. Goodness knows how it had kept going for the last
20 years without ever being cleaned out. The point, though, is that it
stopped working, without drama. It can't be hard to have a temperature
sensor in the machine that shuts it off if it gets too hot.

From experience with a faulty Hotpoint dryer: some fibres always got
past the filter. The filter housing was at the front of the machine and
the vent pipe was at the rear, with the two connected by a 4" rigid
pipe. That rigid pipe was *NOT* securely located and came loose more
than once. The loose fibres escaped and built up on the floor, under the
machine - where the air intake was. When enough had built up, it would
suck up a clump, which would pass straight through to the heater section
and lodge on the hot, wire elements, where they would smoulder and could
then ignite. There was no overtemperature or flow blockage to be
detected beforehand, simply a smell of burning and the next stage being
a fire.

If the huge number of faulty dryers being recalled have similar design
problems, they too will not be suffering from a blockage and/or
overtemperature that can be detected.

I appreciate that Miele is more expensive than Creda, but this is a
foreseeable and serious fire risk, pretty easily avoidable with
appropriate sensors. It's an obvious design criterion.

See above as to why it may not be the same problem.

I extracted a few kilos of very dry, finely shredded fibres from the
machine plus the hose. Normally, the fact the fibres are compressed
would help suppress fire, but when the dryer is running there's air
being blown in to fan any embers.

If Creda have sent out machines that catch fire easily, that's sheer
idiocy.

If our experience is at all common, it is poor design, but perhaps not
an obvious problem. They presumably did not consider that a failure of
one part would cause a build-up of fluff that could then be pulled in by
the fan and onto the heater elements. Obvious with hindsight, but I
suppose that they did not expect the poor fitting of the pipes and
therefore didn't plan for a build-up of fluff under the machine.

SteveW

On 11/11/2019 21:40, Steve Walker wrote:
On 11/11/2019 14:59, GB wrote:

If Creda have sent out machines that catch fire easily, that's sheer
idiocy.

If our experience is at all common, it is poor design, but perhaps not
an obvious problem. They presumably did not consider that a failure of
one part would cause a build-up of fluff that could then be pulled in by
the fan and onto the heater elements. Obvious with hindsight, but I
suppose that they did not expect the poor fitting of the pipes and
therefore didn't plan for a build-up of fluff under the machine.

Okay, I take back the idiocy comment.



SteveW

On 12/11/2019 11:38, GB wrote:
On 11/11/2019 21:40, Steve Walker wrote:
On 11/11/2019 14:59, GB wrote:

If Creda have sent out machines that catch fire easily, that's sheer
idiocy.

If our experience is at all common, it is poor design, but perhaps not
an obvious problem. They presumably did not consider that a failure of
one part would cause a build-up of fluff that could then be pulled in
by the fan and onto the heater elements. Obvious with hindsight, but I
suppose that they did not expect the poor fitting of the pipes and
therefore didn't plan for a build-up of fluff under the machine.

Okay, I take back the idiocy comment.

I wouldn't completely if I were you.

SteveW

On 10/11/2019 21:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
Matthew Mitchell m
wrote:

Hi, I was just given a Creda Excel mini dryer. It has no hose fitting and no
condenser tray, is this normal, is the water just coming out as moisture?

Many thanks

The original, and cheaper, tumble dryers just discharged wet air and you
have to throw hose through an (open) window or a vent in a wall when you
use them. Discharging wet air into the room will *not* be acceptable.


I discharge mine into a shower enclosure. It only has a manually
switched fan but as long as you use that and close the doors it is fine.

On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:40:07 +0000, Steve Walker
wrote:

snip

If our experience is at all common, it is poor design, but perhaps not
an obvious problem. They presumably did not consider that a failure of
one part would cause a build-up of fluff that could then be pulled in by
the fan and onto the heater elements.

Our old Zanussi appears to *suck* air in from the outside world *via*
the heater elements, draw it though the drum and front filter before
*blowing* it out the exhaust plumbing (up some rigid plastic trunking
and out though the wall).

I do have to clear the exit grill and flexi-hose between machine hand
rigid exit duct once-in-a-while and generally clean the internals of
the machine when I'm in there replacing a belt, pulley, spigot or
motor bearings etc.

The coiled wire heater elements (like a fan heater) has generally been
pretty clear every time.

Cheers, T i m

On 17/11/2019 15:19, T i m wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:40:07 +0000, Steve Walker
wrote:

snip

If our experience is at all common, it is poor design, but perhaps not
an obvious problem. They presumably did not consider that a failure of
one part would cause a build-up of fluff that could then be pulled in by
the fan and onto the heater elements.

Our old Zanussi appears to *suck* air in from the outside world *via*
the heater elements, draw it though the drum and front filter before
*blowing* it out the exhaust plumbing (up some rigid plastic trunking
and out though the wall).

That's basically what we had, although our fan was between the heater
and the drum. The problem was the rigid pipe from front to back was not
properly held, came loose and discharged fibres, that had managed to
escape the filter, underneath the machine. That meant that they built up
there, until sucked, en-masse, into the heater elements.

I do have to clear the exit grill and flexi-hose between machine hand
rigid exit duct once-in-a-while and generally clean the internals of
the machine when I'm in there replacing a belt, pulley, spigot or
motor bearings etc.

The coiled wire heater elements (like a fan heater) has generally been
pretty clear every time.

Ours certainly wasn't. I took to checking the pipe and cleaning out
underneath every fortnight, until we eventually got rid of it (it needed
a new heater (one element worked, but the other had failed where it had
had burnt fibres on it) and the front slipper pads for the drum needed
replacing. With that and the repeated exhaust problems, we decided to
replace it - which also gave us the opportunity for a larger capacity one.

SteveW