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Default Review of UK General Election Campaign Day Minus 4: 2nd November 2019

Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so lets dive in!

Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went ape****,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.

Lets take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I dont intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the ****ing Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.

The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, theyve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once theyve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. Its going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she aint one of
them.

Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then theyre
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
2017 on acid looks stronger with every passing minute!

Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
its no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, its absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.

Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnsons deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
concerns over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaigns alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming ****show for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasnt even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. ****ing
Nora!

On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, its a good argument from Labours
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.

Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesnt take much objective thinking to look at whats actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.

And the campaign hasnt even started yet!

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Default Review of UK General Election Campaign Day Minus 4: 2nd November 2019

On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
wrote:

Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so lets dive in!

Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went ape****,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.

Lets take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I dont intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the ****ing Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.

The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, theyve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once theyve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. Its going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she aint one of
them.

Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then theyre
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
2017 on acid looks stronger with every passing minute!

Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
its no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, its absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.

Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnsons deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
concerns over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaigns alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming ****show for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasnt even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. ****ing
Nora!

On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, its a good argument from Labours
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.

Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesnt take much objective thinking to look at whats actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.

And the campaign hasnt even started yet!


your objectivity has to be seen to be believed


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Default Review of UK General Election Campaign Day Minus 4: 2nd November 2019

On 3 Nov 2019, abelard wrote
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On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
wrote:

Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so lets dive in!

Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went ape****,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.

Lets take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I dont intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the ****ing Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.

The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, theyve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once theyve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. Its going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she aint one of
them.

Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then theyre
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
2017 on acid looks stronger with every passing minute!

Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
its no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, its absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.

Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnsons deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
concerns over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaigns alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming ****show for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasnt even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. ****ing
Nora!

On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, its a good argument from Labours
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.

Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesnt take much objective thinking to look at whats actually
happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.

And the campaign hasnt even started yet!


your objectivity has to be seen to be believed


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On Sun, 03 Nov 2019 14:34:18 +0100, abelard
wrote:

On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
wrote:

Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so lets dive in!

Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went ape****,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.

Lets take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I dont intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the ****ing Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.

The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, theyve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once theyve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. Its going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she aint one of
them.

Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then theyre
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
2017 on acid looks stronger with every passing minute!

Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
its no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, its absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.

Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnsons deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
concerns over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaigns alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming ****show for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasnt even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. ****ing
Nora!

On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, its a good argument from Labours
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.

Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesnt take much objective thinking to look at whats actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.

And the campaign hasnt even started yet!


your objectivity has to be seen to be believed


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On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
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Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign.


Where they are already falling over themselves to try to fool / bribe
the gullible into voting for them, just like they did at the
referendum.

If they want the fanatical Brexiteer vote they just need to promise a
sharing out of all the free houses, cars, houses and healthcare they
currently waste on 'foreigners'.

There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent


'Every cloud' then ... ;-)

including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to.


snip

Just OOI, how old are you and haven't you seen fireworks before?

Rather than setting fire to the money for you to watch burning,
wouldn't it be 'better' to do good / practical / lasting things in the
local community, even if it was a community / LA sponsored event?

I guess I've just never really got the whole 'passive spectator'
thing, preferring to be hands on or not at all (in most cases).

shrug

Cheers, T i m


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