Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

I've had this hammer drill for a couple of years. It's a PBH 1500 E5,
pretty heavy and apparently heavy duty.
I bought it anticipating future needs but only used it twice on jobs
which did'nt require it's full power or heavy duty-ness.

Then, I moved to a new abode and set out to use it this morning.
It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

I'm asking to see if anyone else has had such a problem with this
drill.

Being retired and getting on a wee bit I've developed a tendency to go
for cheap replacement tools but I've realised it's a mistake.
So, if I can't get this item working I'm going to splash out on
quality and somebody or other will be inheriting a quality tool in the
no too near term, I hope..
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On 24/10/2019 16:50, Mike Halmarack wrote:
I've had this hammer drill for a couple of years. It's a PBH 1500 E5,
pretty heavy and apparently heavy duty.
I bought it anticipating future needs but only used it twice on jobs
which did'nt require it's full power or heavy duty-ness.


Lidl tools normally come with 3 years warranty, so dig out the receipt
call the service number.

Mike

Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On 24/10/2019 16:50, Mike Halmarack wrote:
I've had this hammer drill for a couple of years. It's a PBH 1500 E5,
pretty heavy and apparently heavy duty.
I bought it anticipating future needs but only used it twice on jobs
which did'nt require it's full power or heavy duty-ness.

Then, I moved to a new abode and set out to use it this morning.
It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

I'm asking to see if anyone else has had such a problem with this
drill.

Being retired and getting on a wee bit I've developed a tendency to go
for cheap replacement tools but I've realised it's a mistake.
So, if I can't get this item working I'm going to splash out on
quality and somebody or other will be inheriting a quality tool in the
no too near term, I hope..


Three year warranty, take it back.

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Mike Halmarack Wrote in message:
I've had this hammer drill for a couple of years. It's a PBH 1500 E5,
pretty heavy and apparently heavy duty.
I bought it anticipating future needs but only used it twice on jobs
which did'nt require it's full power or heavy duty-ness.

Then, I moved to a new abode and set out to use it this morning.
It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

I'm asking to see if anyone else has had such a problem with this
drill.

Being retired and getting on a wee bit I've developed a tendency to go
for cheap replacement tools but I've realised it's a mistake.
So, if I can't get this item working I'm going to splash out on
quality and somebody or other will be inheriting a quality tool in the
no too near term, I hope..
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:14:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Not sure, maybe I nudged it inadvertently while trying to drill a
hole. Though there is push down release button to prevent this.


Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find, it's likely going to be my ticket to Makita-land.
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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:14:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Not sure, maybe I nudged it inadvertently while trying to drill a
hole. Though there is push down release button to prevent this.


Looks to be pretty well made from that video up-thread - and slipping
looks highly unlikely. There's a bit on the mechanism at about 8.30 -
maybe the grease has dried out or something?


Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find, it's likely going to be my ticket to Makita-land.


I'd try it on with just a bank statement printout. They sell these
things within such particular time periods - if you can prove you spent
the sum at or exceeding the drill at the time it was sold, it may well work.

Fingers crossed of course :-)

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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 19:22:32 +0100, RJH wrote:

On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:14:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Not sure, maybe I nudged it inadvertently while trying to drill a
hole. Though there is push down release button to prevent this.


Looks to be pretty well made from that video up-thread - and slipping
looks highly unlikely. There's a bit on the mechanism at about 8.30 -
maybe the grease has dried out or something?


Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find, it's likely going to be my ticket to Makita-land.


I'd try it on with just a bank statement printout. They sell these
things within such particular time periods - if you can prove you spent
the sum at or exceeding the drill at the time it was sold, it may well work.

Fingers crossed of course :-)

Good tips, thanks.

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In article ,
Mike Halmarack wrote:
Being retired and getting on a wee bit I've developed a tendency to go
for cheap replacement tools but I've realised it's a mistake.

I've got lots and lots of Lidl power tools, and I'd say you've been very
unlucky. If indeed it is something that can't be easily fixed.

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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:14:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Not sure, maybe I nudged it inadvertently while trying to drill a
hole. Though there is push down release button to prevent this.


Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find, it's likely going to be my ticket to Makita-land.


You don't need the receipt if they didn't sell it more than two years
ago. You contact their head office and they will send confirmation of it
being in warranty if so.
You can then take it to store and get a refund to help you makita land.

Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

did you buy it on a credit or debit card, if so look at your bank
statements.
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On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:14:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Not sure, maybe I nudged it inadvertently while trying to drill a
hole. Though there is push down release button to prevent this.


Looks to be pretty well made from that video up-thread - and slipping
looks highly unlikely. There's a bit on the mechanism at about 8.30 -
maybe the grease has dried out or something?


Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find, it's likely going to be my ticket to Makita-land.


I'd try it on with just a bank statement printout. They sell these things
within such particular time periods - if you can prove you spent the sum
at or exceeding the drill at the time it was sold, it may well work.

Fingers crossed of course :-)

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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:14:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Not sure, maybe I nudged it inadvertently while trying to drill a
hole. Though there is push down release button to prevent this.


Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find, it's likely going to be my ticket to Makita-land.


If you buy from Lidl again it's worth scanning or taking a photo of the
receipt. I had a cheap electric screwdriver which failed after 2+
years. I sent an email with details of the fault, the serial number and
a scan of the receipt. Replacement was delivered a week or so later.

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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find,

Credit card record?

Bill

Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On 24/10/2019 20:41, Robin wrote:
On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:14:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect andÂ* and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Not sure, maybe I nudged it inadvertently while trying to drill a
hole. Though there is push down release button to prevent this.


Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find, it's likely going to be my ticket to Makita-land.


If you buy from Lidl again it's worth scanning or taking a photo of the
receipt.

Good idea - might well start doing that.


I had a cheap electric screwdriver which failed after 2+
years.Â* I sent an email with details of the fault, the serial number and
a scan of the receipt.Â* Replacement was delivered a week or so later.


Is a digital copy legally enforceable, though?


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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

"RJH" wrote in message
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On 24/10/2019 20:41, Robin wrote:
On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:14:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Not sure, maybe I nudged it inadvertently while trying to drill a
hole. Though there is push down release button to prevent this.


Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find, it's likely going to be my ticket to Makita-land.


If you buy from Lidl again it's worth scanning or taking a photo of the
receipt.

Good idea - might well start doing that.


I had a cheap electric screwdriver which failed after 2+
years. I sent an email with details of the fault, the serial number and
a scan of the receipt. Replacement was delivered a week or so later.


Is a digital copy legally enforceable, though?

Doesnt need to be legally enforceable, just keep Lidl happy.

Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

RJH wrote:

On 24/10/2019 20:41, Robin wrote:
On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:14:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:50:21 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

It was in simple drill mode, but slipped into hammer mode, so I
paused, then pulling the trigger had no effect and and the function
selector switch wouldn't rotate to either drill mode or plain hammer
but stuck at drill with hammer.

Why did it slip into hammer mode?

Not sure, maybe I nudged it inadvertently while trying to drill a
hole. Though there is push down release button to prevent this.


Any catch required to be released to move the selector?
Tried twisting the chuck back and forth whilst trying to move the
selector?

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find, it's likely going to be my ticket to Makita-land.


If you buy from Lidl again it's worth scanning or taking a photo of the
receipt.

Good idea - might well start doing that.


I had a cheap electric screwdriver which failed after 2+
years. I sent an email with details of the fault, the serial number and
a scan of the receipt. Replacement was delivered a week or so later.


Is a digital copy legally enforceable, though?

If it came to a court case the judge would decide who he believed and
whether the copy was a true one on the balance of probablities. It
would be dfferent if returning perfectly satisfactory goods, as the firm
is entitiled to make any reasonable condition for what is a voluntary
concession, and could choose to reject copies. If they are faulty,
then, as I say, a judge will decide on the evidence. Knowing this, the
shop is likely to accept the copy unless they think the customer is
lying.

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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 19:38:03 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Mike Halmarack wrote:
Being retired and getting on a wee bit I've developed a tendency to go
for cheap replacement tools but I've realised it's a mistake.

I've got lots and lots of Lidl power tools, and I'd say you've been very
unlucky. If indeed it is something that can't be easily fixed.

It certainly occured at an unlucky moment, or at least the moment when
I tried to use it.
there's a green light to show that it's receiving power from the
mains.
Is it possible that there's an internal fuse that's blown?
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Is a digital copy legally enforceable, though?

Doesn¢t need to be legally enforceable, just keep Lidl happy.

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On 25/10/2019 09:57, Roger Hayter wrote:
RJH wrote:

On 24/10/2019 20:41, Robin wrote:
On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:
snip

If you buy from Lidl again it's worth scanning or taking a photo of the
receipt.

Good idea - might well start doing that.


I had a cheap electric screwdriver which failed after 2+
years. I sent an email with details of the fault, the serial number and
a scan of the receipt. Replacement was delivered a week or so later.


Is a digital copy legally enforceable, though?

If it came to a court case the judge would decide who he believed and
whether the copy was a true one on the balance of probablities. It
would be dfferent if returning perfectly satisfactory goods, as the firm
is entitiled to make any reasonable condition for what is a voluntary
concession, and could choose to reject copies. If they are faulty,
then, as I say, a judge will decide on the evidence. Knowing this, the
shop is likely to accept the copy unless they think the customer is
lying.


Makes sense, thanks.

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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

In article ,
Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 19:38:03 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Mike Halmarack wrote:
Being retired and getting on a wee bit I've developed a tendency to go
for cheap replacement tools but I've realised it's a mistake.

I've got lots and lots of Lidl power tools, and I'd say you've been very
unlucky. If indeed it is something that can't be easily fixed.

It certainly occured at an unlucky moment, or at least the moment when
I tried to use it.
there's a green light to show that it's receiving power from the
mains.
Is it possible that there's an internal fuse that's blown?
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Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

In article ,
says...

On 24/10/2019 20:41, Robin wrote:
On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:

I had a cheap electric screwdriver which failed after 2+
years.* I sent an email with details of the fault, the serial number and
a scan of the receipt.* Replacement was delivered a week or so later.


Is a digital copy legally enforceable, though?

Why wouldn't it be?

Those receipts are printed on thermal paper and a lot of them
fade in a very short time leaving you with just blank. Try
carrying one around in your wallet for a few weeks and see
what happens.

The copy will have the timne, date, receipt number etc. on it
which they can reconcile with their records.

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In article ,
says...

On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find,

Credit card record?


Possibly, if you only bought that one item in that transaction
so that the price matches.

If the price is higher it will be indistinguishable from a
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On 25/10/2019 09:59, Mike Halmarack wrote:
It certainly occured at an unlucky moment, or at least the moment when
I tried to use it.
there's a green light to show that it's receiving power from the
mains.
Is it possible that there's an internal fuse that's blown?

No, it's very unlikely to be caused by an electrical problem.

Switching between drill and hammer action is achieved by a mechanical
linkage between the selector knob and the gears. If yours is now stuck
in drill only mode then something's probably come adrift in the
mechanical linkage in the gearbox.

But if the drill no longer runs and the selector won't move then it's
possible that it might have jammed the motor and also caused something
to burn out in the electronics.

Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 17:34:00 +0100, Mike Clarke
wrote:

On 25/10/2019 09:59, Mike Halmarack wrote:
It certainly occured at an unlucky moment, or at least the moment when
I tried to use it.
there's a green light to show that it's receiving power from the
mains.
Is it possible that there's an internal fuse that's blown?

No, it's very unlikely to be caused by an electrical problem.

Switching between drill and hammer action is achieved by a mechanical
linkage between the selector knob and the gears. If yours is now stuck
in drill only mode then something's probably come adrift in the
mechanical linkage in the gearbox.

But if the drill no longer runs and the selector won't move then it's
possible that it might have jammed the motor and also caused something
to burn out in the electronics.

Now you've explained it, that's exactly how it looks.
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On 25/10/2019 16:59, Terry Casey wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 24/10/2019 20:41, Robin wrote:
On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:

I had a cheap electric screwdriver which failed after 2+
years.* I sent an email with details of the fault, the serial number and
a scan of the receipt.* Replacement was delivered a week or so later.


Is a digital copy legally enforceable, though?

Why wouldn't it be?

Two reasons.

One, it's relatively trivial to change the date on a digital copy.

Those receipts are printed on thermal paper and a lot of them
fade in a very short time leaving you with just blank. Try
carrying one around in your wallet for a few weeks and see
what happens.

The copy will have the timne, date, receipt number etc. on it
which they can reconcile with their records.


And the second, I'd thought, is that it would be too difficult to verify
the authenticity of a digital copy, especially in a shop, for any
practical purposes.

And even if a shop like Lidl could, I'm surprised that every retailer
can after as long as 3 years.

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"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:

I did quite a bit of hopeful twiddling. The manual doesn't have a
troubleshooting section. So, without the receipt, which I may yet
find,

Credit card record?


Possibly, if you only bought that one item in that transaction
so that the price matches.

If the price is higher it will be indistinguishable from a
receipt for someone's family shopping!

Yeah, that's the big lack with applepay/googlepay/samsungpay
etc, no fully itemised electronic receipt that you get automatically
for convenient warranty claims.

Hammer drill from Lidl problem
 

"RJH" wrote in message
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On 25/10/2019 16:59, Terry Casey wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 24/10/2019 20:41, Robin wrote:
On 24/10/2019 17:42, Mike Halmarack wrote:

I had a cheap electric screwdriver which failed after 2+
years. I sent an email with details of the fault, the serial number
and
a scan of the receipt. Replacement was delivered a week or so later.


Is a digital copy legally enforceable, though?

Why wouldn't it be?

Two reasons.

One, it's relatively trivial to change the date on a digital copy.

But trivial to check that using the receipt number.

Those receipts are printed on thermal paper and a lot of them
fade in a very short time leaving you with just blank. Try
carrying one around in your wallet for a few weeks and see
what happens.

The copy will have the timne, date, receipt number etc. on it
which they can reconcile with their records.


And the second, I'd thought, is that it would be too difficult to verify
the authenticity of a digital copy, especially in a shop, for any
practical purposes.

No reason why they can't use the receipt number. Some
already can do a lookup of the original receipt if you
have some details like the date from the bank statement.

And even if a shop like Lidl could, I'm surprised that every retailer can
after as long as 3 years.

Trivial to provide that capability.

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Trivial to provide that capability.

What could be more trivial than your insipid trolling in all the UK
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Yeah, that's the big lack with applepay/googlepay/samsungpay
etc,

STILL no feedback for you, lonely senile pest? Nobody can say you don't keep
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