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Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
Trying to lower a fitted wardrobe shelf and to my embarrassment, can't
get it to come loose. The shelf has 3 chunky screws each side on the underside. I've turned these screws fully clockwise/anti-clockwise and half way between. The shelf remains rock solid, fixed in place. Need brain cell injection, please. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
Mike Halmarack wrote:
Trying to lower a fitted wardrobe shelf and to my embarrassment, can't get it to come loose. The shelf has 3 chunky screws each side on the underside. metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge ... |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge You still will not be able to shift the shelf if they are cam locks as the pins will still protrude into the shelf edge. If your lucky and can splay the wardrobe sides apart then you might get the shelf out. Otherwise without taking the wardrobe apart you will not take the shelf out or be able to reposition it the same way. A word of caution the fact the shelf is secured by cam locks suggests it is a structural feature as most shelves would only be supported by shelf bearers making them easy to reposition you may even find the wardrobe back is secured to the shelf. A photo of the securing devices should confirm what are likely to be cam locks. Richard |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
Andy Burns wrote:
Mike Halmarack wrote: Trying to lower a fitted wardrobe shelf and to my embarrassment, can't get it to come loose. The shelf has 3 chunky screws each side on the underside. metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge ... Either that or some kind of metal pin etc used for alignment during assembly. You will probably need to remove one side, assuming you can, to allow you to pull the shelf clear. Plus drill new holes at the correct height. You can get plastic covers to hide the old holes. Never perfect but better than nothing. EBay, B&Q etc. |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:01:17 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote: Mike Halmarack wrote: Trying to lower a fitted wardrobe shelf and to my embarrassment, can't get it to come loose. The shelf has 3 chunky screws each side on the underside. metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge ... Thanks Andy, I see the arrow! Is the outside edge considered to be the edge closest to those of us standing outside the wardrobe, rather than those inside? -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:15:49 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky
wrote: metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge You still will not be able to shift the shelf if they are cam locks as the pins will still protrude into the shelf edge. If your lucky and can splay the wardrobe sides apart then you might get the shelf out. Otherwise without taking the wardrobe apart you will not take the shelf out or be able to reposition it the same way. A word of caution the fact the shelf is secured by cam locks suggests it is a structural feature as most shelves would only be supported by shelf bearers making them easy to reposition you may even find the wardrobe back is secured to the shelf. A photo of the securing devices should confirm what are likely to be cam locks. Richard Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. Here's an image of the screw, looking innocent and co-operative. https://i.postimg.cc/XJYqbWxq/Screw.jpg -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:26:10 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Thanks Andy, I see the arrow! Is the outside edge considered to be the edge closest to those of us standing outside the wardrobe, rather than those inside? The outside edge will be the edge closest to the side panel joined on. As this illustration shows I think you will not be able to pull the lock down and out until you have pulled the side away. https://s3files.core77.com/blog/imag...ocknuts-02.jpg Owain |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:40:19 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. That means your wardrobe was built before it was pushed into the alcove :-) Owain |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 09:22:16 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay
wrote: Andy Burns wrote: Mike Halmarack wrote: Trying to lower a fitted wardrobe shelf and to my embarrassment, can't get it to come loose. The shelf has 3 chunky screws each side on the underside. metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge ... Either that or some kind of metal pin etc used for alignment during assembly. You will probably need to remove one side, assuming you can, to allow you to pull the shelf clear. Plus drill new holes at the correct height. The alternative holes, higher up are already there. Just need to convince the shelf to give up it's old holes. You can get plastic covers to hide the old holes. Never perfect but better than nothing. EBay, B&Q etc. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
Proceed with caution Mike shelves secured with cam locks are done so for a purpose. Wardrobes and shelving units sold by the doyen of self assembly furniture IKEA, often have at least one fixed shelf the purpose of which is structural to prevent the tall sides from splaying out. It might not be apparent when the unit is empty but will certainly become evident when it is loaded!
Richard |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:43:07 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:40:19 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. That means your wardrobe was built before it was pushed into the alcove :-) Owain That's exactly it. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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wrote:
As this illustration shows I think you will not be able to pull the lock down and out until you have pulled the side away. https://s3files.core77.com/blog/imag...ocknuts-02.jpg because of the slot in the cam, you can pull it out when pointing the right way (after all, you do insert it after the dowel in the first place) but as Richard points out, the dowel will still be in place, if you can't spring the sides apart, judicious use of a multitool to cut through it will release the shelf, but then it'll need supporting on a batten or similar in its lower position. |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:44:33 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky
wrote: Proceed with caution Mike shelves secured with cam locks are done so for a purpose. Wardrobes and shelving units sold by the doyen of self assembly furniture IKEA, often have at least one fixed shelf the purpose of which is structural to prevent the tall sides from splaying out. It might not be apparent when the unit is empty but will certainly become evident when it is loaded! Richard Tricky, My wardrobe is turning out to be a minefield! -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
Without taking the wardrobe out of the alcove you are f*****d as even destroying the shelf to remove it will still leave you with the problem of the dowels reinserted in new holes not letting you secure the shelf. If you insist on doing it in situ then you will need to use an alternative method of securing the shelf such as battens screwed to the sides with the shelf resting and secured to the battens too for the reasons mentioned in my previous post.
Richard |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 10:40, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:15:49 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky wrote: metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge You still will not be able to shift the shelf if they are cam locks as the pins will still protrude into the shelf edge. If your lucky and can splay the wardrobe sides apart then you might get the shelf out. Otherwise without taking the wardrobe apart you will not take the shelf out or be able to reposition it the same way. A word of caution the fact the shelf is secured by cam locks suggests it is a structural feature as most shelves would only be supported by shelf bearers making them easy to reposition you may even find the wardrobe back is secured to the shelf. A photo of the securing devices should confirm what are likely to be cam locks. Richard Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. Here's an image of the screw, looking innocent and co-operative. https://i.postimg.cc/XJYqbWxq/Screw.jpg That's definitely a cam lock. The arrow/longer slot of the screw head points to the open position IIRC. Turn one with the arrow pointing to the side wall, and you should be able to prise it out pretty easily, exposing the metal pin it locks onto. Then put it back and tighten all the others. That shelf is part of the structure of the wardrobe and cannot be moved. |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:52:06 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote: wrote: As this illustration shows I think you will not be able to pull the lock down and out until you have pulled the side away. https://s3files.core77.com/blog/imag...ocknuts-02.jpg because of the slot in the cam, you can pull it out when pointing the right way (after all, you do insert it after the dowel in the first place) but as Richard points out, the dowel will still be in place, if you can't spring the sides apart, judicious use of a multitool to cut through it will release the shelf, but then it'll need supporting on a batten or similar in its lower position. Onerously destructive options. Looks like some bravery is required. Either that or I'm screwed. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 10:47, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:41:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:26:10 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: Thanks Andy, I see the arrow! Is the outside edge considered to be the edge closest to those of us standing outside the wardrobe, rather than those inside? The outside edge will be the edge closest to the side panel joined on. As this illustration shows I think you will not be able to pull the lock down and out until you have pulled the side away. https://s3files.core77.com/blog/imag...ocknuts-02.jpg Owain Very convincing. Looks like I'll have to saw the old shelf out and find a new one to replace it in the preferred location. I assume the back is pinned to the shelf you are removing, so you'll ruin the back and leave it unsupported. I strongly suggest you work round the issue and leave the shelf where it is. |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:57:41 +0100, GB
wrote: On 29/09/2019 10:40, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:15:49 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky wrote: metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge You still will not be able to shift the shelf if they are cam locks as the pins will still protrude into the shelf edge. If your lucky and can splay the wardrobe sides apart then you might get the shelf out. Otherwise without taking the wardrobe apart you will not take the shelf out or be able to reposition it the same way. A word of caution the fact the shelf is secured by cam locks suggests it is a structural feature as most shelves would only be supported by shelf bearers making them easy to reposition you may even find the wardrobe back is secured to the shelf. A photo of the securing devices should confirm what are likely to be cam locks. Richard Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. Here's an image of the screw, looking innocent and co-operative. https://i.postimg.cc/XJYqbWxq/Screw.jpg That's definitely a cam lock. The arrow/longer slot of the screw head points to the open position IIRC. Turn one with the arrow pointing to the side wall, and you should be able to prise it out pretty easily, exposing the metal pin it locks onto. Then put it back and tighten all the others. That shelf is part of the structure of the wardrobe and cannot be moved. Totally convincing! I'll make my missus some stilts instead. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 11:06, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:57:41 +0100, GB wrote: On 29/09/2019 10:40, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:15:49 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky wrote: metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge You still will not be able to shift the shelf if they are cam locks as the pins will still protrude into the shelf edge. If your lucky and can splay the wardrobe sides apart then you might get the shelf out. Otherwise without taking the wardrobe apart you will not take the shelf out or be able to reposition it the same way. A word of caution the fact the shelf is secured by cam locks suggests it is a structural feature as most shelves would only be supported by shelf bearers making them easy to reposition you may even find the wardrobe back is secured to the shelf. A photo of the securing devices should confirm what are likely to be cam locks. Richard Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. Here's an image of the screw, looking innocent and co-operative. https://i.postimg.cc/XJYqbWxq/Screw.jpg That's definitely a cam lock. The arrow/longer slot of the screw head points to the open position IIRC. Turn one with the arrow pointing to the side wall, and you should be able to prise it out pretty easily, exposing the metal pin it locks onto. Then put it back and tighten all the others. That shelf is part of the structure of the wardrobe and cannot be moved. Totally convincing! I'll make my missus some stilts instead. Get her one of these? https://www.amazon.co.uk/PAVO-PREMIU.../dp/B01DVYDARG |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:06:22 +0100, GB
wrote: On 29/09/2019 10:47, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:41:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:26:10 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: Thanks Andy, I see the arrow! Is the outside edge considered to be the edge closest to those of us standing outside the wardrobe, rather than those inside? The outside edge will be the edge closest to the side panel joined on. As this illustration shows I think you will not be able to pull the lock down and out until you have pulled the side away. https://s3files.core77.com/blog/imag...ocknuts-02.jpg Owain Very convincing. Looks like I'll have to saw the old shelf out and find a new one to replace it in the preferred location. I assume the back is pinned to the shelf you are removing, so you'll ruin the back and leave it unsupported. I strongly suggest you work round the issue and leave the shelf where it is. It all seemed so simple just a little while ago. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 11:02, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:52:06 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: wrote: As this illustration shows I think you will not be able to pull the lock down and out until you have pulled the side away. https://s3files.core77.com/blog/imag...ocknuts-02.jpg because of the slot in the cam, you can pull it out when pointing the right way (after all, you do insert it after the dowel in the first place) but as Richard points out, the dowel will still be in place, if you can't spring the sides apart, judicious use of a multitool to cut through it will release the shelf, but then it'll need supporting on a batten or similar in its lower position. Onerously destructive options. Looks like some bravery is required. Either that or I'm screwed. Or take the wardrobe out of the alcove, dismantle it very, very carefully, and reassemble it the way you want it. Can't you just allocate your wife a different shelf? |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:09:23 +0100, GB
wrote: On 29/09/2019 11:06, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:57:41 +0100, GB wrote: On 29/09/2019 10:40, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:15:49 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky wrote: metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge You still will not be able to shift the shelf if they are cam locks as the pins will still protrude into the shelf edge. If your lucky and can splay the wardrobe sides apart then you might get the shelf out. Otherwise without taking the wardrobe apart you will not take the shelf out or be able to reposition it the same way. A word of caution the fact the shelf is secured by cam locks suggests it is a structural feature as most shelves would only be supported by shelf bearers making them easy to reposition you may even find the wardrobe back is secured to the shelf. A photo of the securing devices should confirm what are likely to be cam locks. Richard Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. Here's an image of the screw, looking innocent and co-operative. https://i.postimg.cc/XJYqbWxq/Screw.jpg That's definitely a cam lock. The arrow/longer slot of the screw head points to the open position IIRC. Turn one with the arrow pointing to the side wall, and you should be able to prise it out pretty easily, exposing the metal pin it locks onto. Then put it back and tighten all the others. That shelf is part of the structure of the wardrobe and cannot be moved. Totally convincing! I'll make my missus some stilts instead. Get her one of these? https://www.amazon.co.uk/PAVO-PREMIU.../dp/B01DVYDARG "Built to withstand heavy use"? Dare I? -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:11:05 +0100, GB
wrote: On 29/09/2019 11:02, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:52:06 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: wrote: As this illustration shows I think you will not be able to pull the lock down and out until you have pulled the side away. https://s3files.core77.com/blog/imag...ocknuts-02.jpg because of the slot in the cam, you can pull it out when pointing the right way (after all, you do insert it after the dowel in the first place) but as Richard points out, the dowel will still be in place, if you can't spring the sides apart, judicious use of a multitool to cut through it will release the shelf, but then it'll need supporting on a batten or similar in its lower position. Onerously destructive options. Looks like some bravery is required. Either that or I'm screwed. Or take the wardrobe out of the alcove, dismantle it very, very carefully, and reassemble it the way you want it. Can't you just allocate your wife a different shelf? By Golly! I think you might be onto something there. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:52:11 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
because of the slot in the cam, you can pull it out when pointing the right way (after all, you do insert it after the dowel in the first place) Do you? I've always put the cam in the hole first, aligned it, then pushed the pinned bit in from the side! Owain |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 11:13, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:09:23 +0100, GB wrote: On 29/09/2019 11:06, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:57:41 +0100, GB wrote: On 29/09/2019 10:40, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:15:49 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky wrote: metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge You still will not be able to shift the shelf if they are cam locks as the pins will still protrude into the shelf edge. If your lucky and can splay the wardrobe sides apart then you might get the shelf out. Otherwise without taking the wardrobe apart you will not take the shelf out or be able to reposition it the same way. A word of caution the fact the shelf is secured by cam locks suggests it is a structural feature as most shelves would only be supported by shelf bearers making them easy to reposition you may even find the wardrobe back is secured to the shelf. A photo of the securing devices should confirm what are likely to be cam locks. Richard Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. Here's an image of the screw, looking innocent and co-operative. https://i.postimg.cc/XJYqbWxq/Screw.jpg That's definitely a cam lock. The arrow/longer slot of the screw head points to the open position IIRC. Turn one with the arrow pointing to the side wall, and you should be able to prise it out pretty easily, exposing the metal pin it locks onto. Then put it back and tighten all the others. That shelf is part of the structure of the wardrobe and cannot be moved. Totally convincing! I'll make my missus some stilts instead. Get her one of these? https://www.amazon.co.uk/PAVO-PREMIU.../dp/B01DVYDARG "Built to withstand heavy use"? Dare I? Ooops! :) |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 11:15, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Or take the wardrobe out of the alcove, dismantle it very, very carefully, and reassemble it the way you want it. Can't you just allocate your wife a different shelf? By Golly! I think you might be onto something there. Maybe a photo of the whole wardrobe, if you want practical suggestions? |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:10:56 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
It all seemed so simple just a little while ago. We've all said that. Usually just after last orders at Screwfix, with no electricity, and wondering why we forgot to buy meter tail or torch battery. Owain |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:13:20 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
"Built to withstand heavy use"? Dare I? Only if you want your marriage to turn into as big a minefield as your wardrobe. Maybe just move. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property...-72664153.html Lots of fitted wardrobes for the XYL and a garage/playroom for you. Owain |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:02:11 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:52:06 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: wrote: As this illustration shows I think you will not be able to pull the lock down and out until you have pulled the side away. https://s3files.core77.com/blog/imag...ocknuts-02.jpg because of the slot in the cam, you can pull it out when pointing the right way (after all, you do insert it after the dowel in the first place) but as Richard points out, the dowel will still be in place, if you can't spring the sides apart, judicious use of a multitool to cut through it will release the shelf, but then it'll need supporting on a batten or similar in its lower position. Onerously destructive options. Looks like some bravery is required. Either that or I'm screwed. Only if you get it unscrewed are you screwed. If you buy Ikea... this is what you get. NT |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 11:23, wrote:
On Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:13:20 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: "Built to withstand heavy use"? Dare I? Only if you want your marriage to turn into as big a minefield as your wardrobe. Maybe just move. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property...-72664153.html Lots of fitted wardrobes for the XYL and a garage/playroom for you. Owain You are Owain Moneysaver, and I claim my £5! :) |
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:19:12 +0100, GB
wrote: On 29/09/2019 11:15, Mike Halmarack wrote: Or take the wardrobe out of the alcove, dismantle it very, very carefully, and reassemble it the way you want it. Can't you just allocate your wife a different shelf? By Golly! I think you might be onto something there. Maybe a photo of the whole wardrobe, if you want practical suggestions? The whole shebang. https://postimg.cc/8Fzx7tsQ The shelf. https://postimg.cc/mcpJCCFc The idea was to take out the shelf with the box file on, and put the box file on the next lower shelf. Access and opening space. Don't think it's happening -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 03:23:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:13:20 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: "Built to withstand heavy use"? Dare I? Only if you want your marriage to turn into as big a minefield as your wardrobe. Maybe just move. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property...-72664153.html Lots of fitted wardrobes for the XYL and a garage/playroom for you. Owain Now we know where, it's just a matter of the wherewithall. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 29/09/2019 10:40, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:15:49 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky wrote: metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge You still will not be able to shift the shelf if they are cam locks as the pins will still protrude into the shelf edge. If your lucky and can splay the wardrobe sides apart then you might get the shelf out. Otherwise without taking the wardrobe apart you will not take the shelf out or be able to reposition it the same way. A word of caution the fact the shelf is secured by cam locks suggests it is a structural feature as most shelves would only be supported by shelf bearers making them easy to reposition you may even find the wardrobe back is secured to the shelf. A photo of the securing devices should confirm what are likely to be cam locks. Richard Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. Here's an image of the screw, looking innocent and co-operative. https://i.postimg.cc/XJYqbWxq/Screw.jpg I got a warning from Kaspersky about that photo. It said the web page was downloading adverts and recommended closing it. |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 10:41, wrote:
On Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:26:10 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: Thanks Andy, I see the arrow! Is the outside edge considered to be the edge closest to those of us standing outside the wardrobe, rather than those inside? The outside edge will be the edge closest to the side panel joined on. As this illustration shows I think you will not be able to pull the lock down and out until you have pulled the side away. https://s3files.core77.com/blog/imag...ocknuts-02.jpg Owain Isn't this what multi-tools are for ?. Cut the camlocks and reposition with new ones. Failing that, use no-nails :-) |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 11:02, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Either that or I'm screwed. No, the shelf is, rather securely :-) |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On 29/09/2019 10:53, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:44:33 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky wrote: Proceed with caution Mike shelves secured with cam locks are done so for a purpose. Wardrobes and shelving units sold by the doyen of self assembly furniture IKEA, often have at least one fixed shelf the purpose of which is structural to prevent the tall sides from splaying out. It might not be apparent when the unit is empty but will certainly become evident when it is loaded! Richard Tricky, My wardrobe is turning out to be a minefield! ...........Or put in an additional shelf at the required height. Just sell her the idea you are giving her additional shelf space. |
Red face over fitted wardrobe shelves.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:21:30 +0100, Andrew
wrote: On 29/09/2019 10:40, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:15:49 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky wrote: metal cam locks and dowels? you should be able to pull the lock down and out once you have the arrow pointing to the outside edge You still will not be able to shift the shelf if they are cam locks as the pins will still protrude into the shelf edge. If your lucky and can splay the wardrobe sides apart then you might get the shelf out. Otherwise without taking the wardrobe apart you will not take the shelf out or be able to reposition it the same way. A word of caution the fact the shelf is secured by cam locks suggests it is a structural feature as most shelves would only be supported by shelf bearers making them easy to reposition you may even find the wardrobe back is secured to the shelf. A photo of the securing devices should confirm what are likely to be cam locks. Richard Not much chance of splaying the walls in this construction. Here's an image of the screw, looking innocent and co-operative. https://i.postimg.cc/XJYqbWxq/Screw.jpg I got a warning from Kaspersky about that photo. It said the web page was downloading adverts and recommended closing it. This is turning out to be quite the troublesome screw. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:36:22 +0100, ss wrote:
On 29/09/2019 10:53, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:44:33 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky wrote: Proceed with caution Mike shelves secured with cam locks are done so for a purpose. Wardrobes and shelving units sold by the doyen of self assembly furniture IKEA, often have at least one fixed shelf the purpose of which is structural to prevent the tall sides from splaying out. It might not be apparent when the unit is empty but will certainly become evident when it is loaded! Richard Tricky, My wardrobe is turning out to be a minefield! ..........Or put in an additional shelf at the required height. Just sell her the idea you are giving her additional shelf space. At Last, someone who makes the solution seem easy. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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