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Machining a groove in wood
I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a
depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
Machining a groove in wood
On 17/08/2019 14:51, Tim+ wrote:
I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Tim Router bits have a parallel shank and you can grip them in your drill chuck easily enough. Router speeds are higher though, so you'll find you'll have to go slowly so as not to be forcing the work along. You'll usually find that you can set the stop to prevent the bit being lowered too far and once down, you can lock the quill of the drill to stop it retracting too - on cheap drills the latter is usually just a grubscrew in the casting. SteveW |
Machining a groove in wood
On Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:51:51 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Tim drills hate side forces on the bearings Do it with a saw. NT |
Machining a groove in wood
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Machining a groove in wood
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, Tim+ wrote: I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Have you got a circular saw? Two cuts to the correct depth and chisel out the waste. -- *Why is the man who invests all your money called a broker? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Machining a groove in wood
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On Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:51:51 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Tim drills hate side forces on the bearings I dont care. Its a cheap pillar drill that hardly gets any use. As long as the bearings last long enough to one decent cut thatll do me. Do it with a saw. No suitable saw. I was wondering about a milling bit. Maybe something like this? https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m... 323868675825 Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
Machining a groove in wood
On 17/08/2019 14:51, Tim+ wrote:
I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Tim You may well ruin the drill. Drills aren't designed for force to be applied 'side on', routers are. You could drill a series of holes and then try to a 'make shift' router. That would reduce the side on force. An alternative is plough plane, if you can't borrow a router. |
Machining a groove in wood
On 17/08/2019 14:51, Tim+ wrote:
I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Nothing in principle to stop you using a router bit in the drill with suitable fence etc clamped in place to guide the work. The max speed on the drill press will be *significantly* lower than a typical router (20k rpm would be good for that size of cutter), so you will have to feed the work very slowly and take it easy on what is quite a small cutter. I would suggest using a two or three passes to get to the full depth. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Machining a groove in wood
On 17/08/2019 15:05, wrote:
On Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:51:51 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Tim drills hate side forces on the bearings Do it with a saw. NT Do you have a 5mm wide wood chisel ?. If so cut a slot manually |
Machining a groove in wood
On Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:17:36 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
wrote: On Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:51:51 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Tim drills hate side forces on the bearings I dont care. Its a cheap pillar drill that hardly gets any use. As long as the bearings last long enough to one decent cut thatll do me. Do it with a saw. No suitable saw. Any saw will do the job. |
Machining a groove in wood
Tim+ wrote:
I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). https://ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_udhi=10&_nkw=plough%20plane&LH_PrefLoc=1 |
Machining a groove in wood
On 17/08/2019 19:16, Andrew wrote:
Do you have a 5mm wide wood chisel ?. If so cut a slot manually Do the sides with a stanley knife first Bill |
Machining a groove in wood
If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? Aldi have two on offer one at £49.99 and one at £59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :).
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Machining a groove in wood
On Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky wrote:
If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? Aldi have two on offer one at £49.99 and one at £59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :). Richard A usable router can be had for even less! |
Machining a groove in wood
On Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky wrote:
If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? quite Aldi have two on offer one at £49.99 and one at £59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :). Richard Skip the Aldi tools, get a machine mart / Clarke for the same price. Much better. I've had too many failures with Aldi stuff. NT |
Machining a groove in wood
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Machining a groove in wood
On Sunday, 18 August 2019 21:13:22 UTC+1, RJH wrote:
On 18/08/2019 20:24, tabbypurr wrote: On Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky wrote: If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? quite Aldi have two on offer one at £49.99 and one at £59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :). Richard Skip the Aldi tools, get a machine mart / Clarke for the same price. Much better. I've had too many failures with Aldi stuff. I've got an Aldi battery circular saw - superb. And as mentioned elsewhere, ideal for this sort of job when used with a decent guide/saw board etc. The problem with Aldi power tools is the very high failure rate. NT |
Machining a groove in wood
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Machining a groove in wood
On 18/08/2019 19:13, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky wrote: If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? Aldi have two on offer one at £49.99 and one at £59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :). Richard A usable router can be had for even less! making a nice straight groove is not easy in inexperienced hands. I'd use a circular saw and make multiple parallel cuts and clean up with a chisel. |
Machining a groove in wood
On 19/08/2019 17:39, Andrew wrote:
On 18/08/2019 19:13, polygonum_on_google wrote: On Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky* wrote: If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? Aldi have two on offer one at £49.99 and one at £59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :). Richard A usable router can be had for even less! making a nice straight groove is not easy in inexperienced hands. I'd use a circular saw and make multiple parallel cuts and clean up with a chisel. An accurate groove in even an entry level router should be very doable so long as it has a fence that can run along the edge. Easiest if the cutter is the preferred width to start with, to save needing more than one offset set on the fence. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Machining a groove in wood
On Tuesday, 20 August 2019 12:44:05 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/08/2019 17:39, Andrew wrote: On 18/08/2019 19:13, polygonum_on_google wrote: On Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky* wrote: If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? Aldi have two on offer one at £49.99 and one at £59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :). Richard A usable router can be had for even less! making a nice straight groove is not easy in inexperienced hands. I'd use a circular saw and make multiple parallel cuts and clean up with a chisel. An accurate groove in even an entry level router should be very doable so long as it has a fence that can run along the edge. Easiest if the cutter is the preferred width to start with, to save needing more than one offset set on the fence. he doesn't even have a saw. A handheld circular is one of the most useful saws & will do the job. NT |
Machining a groove in wood
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wrote: On Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky wrote: If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? quite Aldi have two on offer one at 49.99 and one at 59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :). Richard Skip the Aldi tools, get a machine mart / Clarke for the same price. Much better. I've had too many failures with Aldi stuff. Go to Lidl, then. Although they only do special offers, not had a failure with any of their power tools. And they have a three year warranty. -- *Time is fun when you're having flies... Kermit Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Machining a groove in wood
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RJH wrote: But they're only used for DIY. While the impact driver managed 200+ screws the other day to assemble a shed on one battery and didn't miss a beat, I'm not sure I'd trust them for daily use. And the better Bosch and Makita are nicer to use. True - but you could likely buy three Lidl for one Makita. -- *I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learner's permit. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Machining a groove in wood
On Wednesday, 21 August 2019 11:19:56 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , tabbypurr wrote: On Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky wrote: If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? quite Aldi have two on offer one at Ł49.99 and one at Ł59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :). Richard Skip the Aldi tools, get a machine mart / Clarke for the same price. Much better. I've had too many failures with Aldi stuff. Go to Lidl, then. Although they only do special offers, not had a failure with any of their power tools. And they have a three year warranty. I've not had your luck with Lidl tools either. Like Aldi, they have to offer 3yr gtees to get people to buy them. NT |
Machining a groove in wood
On 21/08/2019 10:25, wrote:
On Tuesday, 20 August 2019 12:44:05 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote: On 19/08/2019 17:39, Andrew wrote: On 18/08/2019 19:13, polygonum_on_google wrote: On Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky* wrote: If you are a DIYer what are you doing without a circular saw? Aldi have two on offer one at £49.99 and one at £59.99, they are probably cheap and cheerful but will probably do a better job than any solution using a pillar drill as a router. You never know you might even find some uses in other jobs :). Richard A usable router can be had for even less! making a nice straight groove is not easy in inexperienced hands. I'd use a circular saw and make multiple parallel cuts and clean up with a chisel. An accurate groove in even an entry level router should be very doable so long as it has a fence that can run along the edge. Easiest if the cutter is the preferred width to start with, to save needing more than one offset set on the fence. he doesn't even have a saw. A handheld circular is one of the most useful saws & will do the job. It will do it, but its not as easy to get an accurate result. However that does not really matter in this particular case since all the OP wants is a groove for a wire. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Machining a groove in wood
On Wednesday, 21 August 2019 13:43:03 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 6:45:11 PM UTC+1, John Rumm wrote: On 17/08/2019 14:51, Tim+ wrote: I have a 800mm piece of wood that I want to cut a 5mm wide grove in (to a depth of about 6mm). I dont have a router but I do have a cheap pillar drill. Is there a bit that I could use (with a suitable guide for my wood) that would let me route with my drill? (The wood in question is one leg of a tripod base Ikea lamp. The power cord dangles down the middle at present and I think it would look a whole lot better if I could hide the wire along the inside of one leg.) https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lauters...hite-40405046/ Nothing in principle to stop you using a router bit in the drill with suitable fence etc clamped in place to guide the work. The max speed on the drill press will be *significantly* lower than a typical router (20k rpm would be good for that size of cutter), so you will have to feed the work very slowly and take it easy on what is quite a small cutter. I would suggest using a two or three passes to get to the full depth. Well John, as you said it worked. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vjfe541i7PriZmuw5 https://photos.app.goo.gl/aQmNASpMKt9R8UPv7 I'm not sure why folk were trying to overcomplicate it so much. The above was done on a test piece using a 5mm router bit and my cheapo Lidl/Aldi pillar drill. I'd love to see an example done with a handheld circular saw of equal quality. ;-) Frankly most of the other suggestions sounded like nice ways to butcher a piece of wood to me. Tim+ That's good. I wasn't convinced it'd work. NT |
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