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Does EE use Orange masts
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Does the EE mobile network use the Orange network masts please? I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 07:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
As per the subject.. Does the EE mobile network use the Orange network masts please? I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ thought orange etc turned into ee ,,,anyway they are a town network like one for one was on 1800 Mc/s and above so no good in the near of scotland ....certainly not everything everywhere .....can't get it here on this farm in Ayreshire...one must stick to a 900 Mc/s system like o2 and vodaphone .... |
Does EE use Orange masts
Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote:
As per the subject.. Does the EE mobile network use the Orange network masts please? I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. Then BT bought it. EE is now part of the BT empire. |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 08:44, Brian Reay wrote:
Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote: As per the subject.. Does the EE mobile network use the Orange network masts please? I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. Then BT bought it. EE is now part of the BT empire. yes they sold cellnet a perfectly good 900Mc/s and above system and bought a 1800 Mc/s and up city network ....mad...I find you can't beat o2 1 2 3 paygo .....half the price of tesco lite .... |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 08:59, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 04/08/2019 08:44, Brian Reay wrote: Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote: As per the subject.. Does the EE mobile network use the Orange network masts please? I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. Then BT bought it. EE is now part of the BT empire. yes they sold cellnet a perfectly good 900Mc/s and above system and bought a 1800 Mc/s and up city network ....mad...I find you can't beat o2 1 2 3 paygo .....half the price of tesco lite .... who remembers the old vodaphone paygo were you used to have to pay line rental and calls separately ...? |
Does EE use Orange masts
thought orange etc turned into ee ,,,anyway they are a town network like one for one was on 1800 Mc/s and above so no good in the near of scotland ....certainly not everything everywhere .....can't get it here on this farm in Ayreshire...one must stick to a 900 Mc/s system like o2 and vodaphone .... The Orange and T-Mobile networks were styled as PCN, Personal Communications Network, as if to distinguish them from the "proper" 900MHz Cellnet & Vodafone. Mobile Telephones. That was my perception anyway. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Does EE use Orange masts
Do they not use each others resources though? I'd have thought they might
have negotiated a deal by now. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 04/08/2019 07:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: As per the subject.. Does the EE mobile network use the Orange network masts please? I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ thought orange etc turned into ee ,,,anyway they are a town network like one for one was on 1800 Mc/s and above so no good in the near of scotland ....certainly not everything everywhere .....can't get it here on this farm in Ayreshire...one must stick to a 900 Mc/s system like o2 and vodaphone .... |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 07:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
As per the subject.. Does the EE mobile network use the Orange network masts please? I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE bought Orange years ago -- €śI know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.€ť €• Leo Tolstoy |
Does EE use Orange masts
Brian Reay explained :
I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? |
Does EE use Orange masts
Brian Gaff pretended :
Do they not use each others resources though? I'd have thought they might have negotiated a deal by now. I understand if you do a 999, that can route through what ever mast it can find, which suggests they do not share resources otherwise. |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 10:11, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff pretended : Do they not use each others resources though? I'd have thought they might have negotiated a deal by now. I understand if you do a 999, that can route through what ever mast it can find, which suggests they do not share resources otherwise. Indeed it is a mystery as to why they dont. It is also a mystery as to why they dont use wifi calling at every possible point. ISP always transfer tpo spmeone elses network at the earliest possible point. -- "Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) " Alan Sokal |
Does EE use Orange masts
Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote:
Brian Reay explained : I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? I would assume so, certainly when the merger was announced that was the impression I got. |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 09:26, Graham. wrote:
thought orange etc turned into ee ,,,anyway they are a town network like one for one was on 1800 Mc/s and above so no good in the near of scotland ....certainly not everything everywhere .....can't get it here on this farm in Ayreshire...one must stick to a 900 Mc/s system like o2 and vodaphone .... The Orange and T-Mobile networks were styled as PCN, Personal Communications Network, as if to distinguish them from the "proper" 900MHz Cellnet & Vodafone. Mobile Telephones. That was my perception anyway. sounds right ...city networks ..... |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 10:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Do they not use each others resources though? I'd have thought they might have negotiated a deal by now. Brian you only have o2 voda 3 and ee these days |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 10:11, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff pretended : Do they not use each others resources though? I'd have thought they might have negotiated a deal by now. I understand if you do a 999, that can route through what ever mast it can find, which suggests they do not share resources otherwise. even without a sim card .... |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 10:09, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Reay explained : I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? yip...you are a bit behind the times are you not? ...been like that for years ,,,tee hee |
Does EE use Orange masts
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 10:33:01 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: On 04/08/2019 10:11, Harry Bloomfield wrote: Brian Gaff pretended : Do they not use each others resources though? I'd have thought they might have negotiated a deal by now. I understand if you do a 999, that can route through what ever mast it can find, which suggests they do not share resources otherwise. Indeed it is a mystery as to why they dont. It is also a mystery as to why they dont use wifi calling at every possible point. ISP always transfer tpo spmeone elses network at the earliest possible point. Hardly a mystery. Why would anyone invest to improve their network then allow their competitors to benefit? |
Does EE use Orange masts
On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 11:58:04 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 04/08/2019 10:09, Harry Bloomfield wrote: Brian Reay explained : I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? yip...you are a bit behind the times are you not? ...been like that for years ,,,tee hee Mot as behind the times as 'Mc/s'. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me ÂŁ1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
Does EE use Orange masts
Harry wrote:
Brian Reay explained : I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? Or nonexistent. They annoyed a lot of Orange subscibers after the merger when they stopped using several Orange masts near Brecon, leaving new holes in the coverage. -- Roger Hayter |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 14:08, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 11:58:04 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 04/08/2019 10:09, Harry Bloomfield wrote: Brian Reay explained : I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? yip...you are a bit behind the times are you not? ...been like that for years ,,,tee hee Mot as behind the times as 'Mc/s'. at least it describes frequency properly in cycles per second ....not some foreign blokes name...stuff Heinrich and stupid SI units ......brexit will solve all those problems ... |
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On 04/08/2019 15:41, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
at least it describes frequency properly in cycles per second ....not some foreign blokes name...stuff Heinrich and stupid SI units .....brexit will solve all those problems ... The early workers in the field to whom should be given most of the credit are long forgotten because they were celebrated in the former c.g.s. system of units; Maxwell and Oersted. (But I never found out who was Mr. Erg :-) ) |
Does EE use Orange masts
Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/08/2019 :
On 04/08/2019 10:09, Harry Bloomfield wrote: Brian Reay explained : I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? yip...you are a bit behind the times are you not? ...been like that for years ,,,tee hee Not only me, the experts too at - https://www.mastdata.com/ |
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On 04/08/2019 10:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Do they not use each others resources though? I'd have thought they might have negotiated a deal by now. Brian No. One of the MPs a couple of years ago (when free roaming was being extended to data within plans throughout the EU) was talking about forcing companies to enable internal roaming within the UK, but nothing came of it. SteveW |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/2019 11:08, Brian Reay wrote:
Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote: Brian Reay explained : I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? I would assume so, certainly when the merger was announced that was the impression I got. Except that when they merged, the decomissioned some masts and adjusted the power of others up or down, to remove duplication, so you can't be sure that that mast is even still operational. In doing so they managed to isolate a very large business park around here, cutting off reception for thousands of people who were tied into contracts with them! SteveW |
Does EE use Orange masts
On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 10:09:14 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? Maybe... There is a cell near here with a notice on the door saying "T-Mobile (UK)". The site and mast also has kit from Hutchison 3G (aka 3) on it. -- Cheers Dave. |
Does EE use Orange masts
In article , Harry Bloomfield
scribeth thus As per the subject.. Does the EE mobile network use the Orange network masts please? I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ Mast sharing is still quite the done thing and has been for years Harry!.. Sure you know of this site just a couple of them here picked at Random.. http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallery...73&pageid=2759 http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallery...=10&pageid=873 -- Tony Sayer Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself. |
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Does EE use Orange masts
Steve Walker wrote on 04/08/2019 :
Except that when they merged, the decomissioned some masts and adjusted the power of others up or down, to remove duplication, so you can't be sure that that mast is even still operational. In doing so they managed to isolate a very large business park around here, cutting off reception for thousands of people who were tied into contracts with them! So that map is probably well out of date, apart from the names? One of the marked locations I have never spotted a mast, whereas the other local one a T Mobile, on top of our local BT exchange which I remember being installed, is now the operational EE mast? |
Does EE use Orange masts
tony sayer explained :
Mast sharing is still quite the done thing and has been for years Harry!.. I am not clear on what they do, from a users perspective there is not much information and a lot of out of date information like the map I linked to. |
Does EE use Orange masts
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/08/2019 10:11, Harry Bloomfield wrote: Brian Gaff pretended : Do they not use each others resources though? I'd have thought they might have negotiated a deal by now. I understand if you do a 999, that can route through what ever mast it can find, which suggests they do not share resources otherwise. Indeed it is a mystery as to why they dont. It doesn't work. The networks are sized for the numbers of subscribers they have. In a universal roaming situation, everyone who can't get on their home network will try to pick the strongest/closest base station. That means the mast becomes overloaded and drops off the network, meaning all the phones now seek out for the next strongest mast. Rinse and repeat. Result is that all the base stations are knocked out - and the signal is worse for everyone, not better. To fix that would mean speccing base stations to take 4x the capacity they currently have (in case subscribers from all the other networks roam to it). Which costs more, and is more expensive than the other networks building their own infrastructure on the same mast (and mast-sharing already happens anyway). It is also a mystery as to why they dont use wifi calling at every possible point. ISP always transfer tpo spmeone elses network at the earliest possible point. Wifi calling is just a tunnel from the phone to the carrier. It isn't clear that the complexity in wifi calling is less than the complexity of the LTE network - and now the networks have to maintain two networks with capacity to carry all their subscribers, not one. Theo |
Does EE use Orange masts
Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote:
Steve Walker wrote on 04/08/2019 : Except that when they merged, the decomissioned some masts and adjusted the power of others up or down, to remove duplication, so you can't be sure that that mast is even still operational. In doing so they managed to isolate a very large business park around here, cutting off reception for thousands of people who were tied into contracts with them! So that map is probably well out of date, apart from the names? One of the marked locations I have never spotted a mast, whereas the other local one a T Mobile, on top of our local BT exchange which I remember being installed, is now the operational EE mast? Ive found the map very unhelpful. I think mast positions are considered too €ścommercially sensitive€ť to share with the hoi polloi these days. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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Does EE use Orange masts
"Theo" wrote in message ... The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 04/08/2019 10:11, Harry Bloomfield wrote: Brian Gaff pretended : Do they not use each others resources though? I'd have thought they might have negotiated a deal by now. I understand if you do a 999, that can route through what ever mast it can find, which suggests they do not share resources otherwise. Indeed it is a mystery as to why they dont. It doesn't work. The networks are sized for the numbers of subscribers they have. In a universal roaming situation, everyone who can't get on their home network will try to pick the strongest/closest base station. That means the mast becomes overloaded and drops off the network, Nope, it just reject new connection requests. meaning all the phones now seek out for the next strongest mast. Rinse and repeat. Doesn’t work like that. Result is that all the base stations are knocked out Doesn’t happen. - and the signal is worse for everyone, not better. Or that. To fix that would mean speccing base stations to take 4x the capacity they currently have (in case subscribers from all the other networks roam to it). Which costs more, and is more expensive than the other networks building their own infrastructure on the same mast (and mast-sharing already happens anyway). It is also a mystery as to why they dont use wifi calling at every possible point. ISP always transfer tpo spmeone elses network at the earliest possible point. Wifi calling is just a tunnel from the phone to the carrier. It isn't clear that the complexity in wifi calling is less than the complexity of the LTE network - and now the networks have to maintain two networks with capacity to carry all their subscribers, not one. |
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Does EE use Orange masts
On 04/08/19 19:47, Steve Walker wrote:
On 04/08/2019 11:08, Brian Reay wrote: Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote: Brian Reay explained : I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? I would assume so, certainly when the merger was announced that was the impression I got. Except that when they merged, the decomissioned some masts and adjusted the power of others up or down, to remove duplication, so you can't be sure that that mast is even still operational. In doing so they managed to isolate a very large business park around here, cutting off reception for thousands of people who were tied into contracts with them! SteveW I don't doubt it. The coverage claims of the various operators can be somewhat 'optimistic' based on comments I've heard from various people. We were given a 'pico node' when, despite claims to the contrary by our provider, I demonstrated we didn't have coverage at our house. They've since made changes and we have good coverage. |
Does EE use Orange masts
On 06/08/2019 15:50, Brian Reay wrote:
On 04/08/19 19:47, Steve Walker wrote: On 04/08/2019 11:08, Brian Reay wrote: Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote: Brian Reay explained : I'm just trying to decide where our local mast is and cannot see a local EE one, but there is an Orange one. https://www.mastdata.com/ EE was formed when T Mobile and Orange joined up/ merged. So masts marked on that map as Orange and / or T Mobile will now be all EE masts? I would assume so, certainly when the merger was announced that was the impression I got. Except that when they merged, the decomissioned some masts and adjusted the power of others up or down, to remove duplication, so you can't be sure that that mast is even still operational. In doing so they managed to isolate a very large business park around here, cutting off reception for thousands of people who were tied into contracts with them! SteveW I don't doubt it. The coverage claims of the various operators can be somewhat 'optimistic' based on comments I've heard from various people. We were given a 'pico node' when, despite claims to the contrary by our provider, I demonstrated we didn't have coverage at our house. They've since made changes and we have good coverage. What made it worse, was the the park is home to a number of companies (with employees numbering in the thousands) with much of their work done for another location with thousands there too. People move back and forth for meetings or even for months at a time for site work. For a couple of years EE (and only EE) worked at site, while it wouldn't work at all at the other office base! SteveW |
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