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On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 06:50:08 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Gunna be hilarious when the new one does the same thing. What a blithering idiot! tsk -- "Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed: "You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad little ignorant ****." MID: |
Doorbell?
On 13/07/2019 17:34, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:30:08 +0100, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: On 13/07/2019 17:17, ARW wrote: On 13/07/2019 16:43, Muddymike wrote: We have an ancient Freidland door chime which Dongs but no longer Dings:-) Ive been looking for a replacement but cant work out if I need an AC or DC bell unit to continue using the current 12v Freidland 764 transformer. So far Google hasn't been very helpful, do any of you know if this thing is DC or AC? Its DC when you use batteries and AC when you use a transformer. ie most door bells work with both. https://www.friedland.co.uk/en-GB/Ch...ages/D117.aspx Looking at the OP, could it just be a simple matter of replacing or re-attaching the return spring? ie, the solenoid will pull in to hit one of the chimes, but without the return spring it will not then rebound to hit the other. +1 It probably has a bug stuck in the slidy bit. Better call in Grace Hopper to investigate. |
Doorbell?
On 13/07/2019 19:12, GB wrote:
On 13/07/2019 17:42, DerbyBorn wrote: +1 .....a bit of corrosion adds to the friction and can defeat the spring - but not the solenoid I was thinking that I'd give it a drop of light oil. Silicone spray perhaps, or graphite powder lock stuff. |
Doorbell?
On 13/07/2019 18:23, Richard wrote:
On 13/07/2019 17:44, Muddymike wrote: On 13/07/2019 17:34, Chris Hogg wrote: On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:30:08 +0100, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: On 13/07/2019 17:17, ARW wrote: On 13/07/2019 16:43, Muddymike wrote: We have an ancient Freidland door chime which Dongs but no longer Dings:-) Ive been looking for a replacement but cant work out if I need an AC or DC bell unit to continue using the current 12v Freidland 764 transformer. So far Google hasn't been very helpful, do any of you know if this thing is DC or AC? Its DC when you use batteries and AC when you use a transformer. ie most door bells work with both. https://www.friedland.co.uk/en-GB/Ch...ages/D117.aspx Looking at the OP, could it just be a simple matter of replacing or re-attaching the return spring? ie, the solenoid will pull in to hit one of the chimes, but without the return spring it will not then rebound to hit the other. +1 BTDT and no, its just very old and worn out. Its supposed to Ding/Dong when the front door push is pressed and Dong/Ding when the back one is pressed but no amount of freeing up have improved the Ding! Mike Be very grateful you still have the dong. Get a musical one to play 'My ding-a-ling' ?. |
Doorbell?
On 14/07/2019 14:04, Muddymike wrote:
On 14/07/2019 08:34, Brian Gaff wrote: You don't need a newÂ* bell just a clean out and a new spring. The bell works simply like a solenoid. The spring brings the plunger back and it overshoots and hits the dong then goes back to the middle again. Ive taken it down and cleaned it thoroughly. Both springs seem fine, both gongs sound nicely when struck with the screwdriver handle yet still it only Dongs so Ive wired both door pushes to the Dong end so we at least hear something whichever door push is pushed. Now off to order a 12v replacement as I'm fed up with fiddling with it! Ive saved a picture of the innards here. https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwzjpno6fu..._4404.jpg?dl=0 or https://tinyurl.com/y4f3dsfb Mike It looks like mine, but a bit older, but I can only see three wires connected to the solenoid. I have four, two from the bell transformer and two from the doorbell. You seem to have a lot of wires that are not connected. Also, 'Cleaning Instruction' (visible in photo) says use lighter fluid and shake gently to free slider, .. Caution - don't shake violently' Presumably ok to smoke while doing this ?. |
Doorbell?
In article ,
Muddymike wrote: On 14/07/2019 08:34, Brian Gaff wrote: You don't need a new bell just a clean out and a new spring. The bell works simply like a solenoid. The spring brings the plunger back and it overshoots and hits the dong then goes back to the middle again. Ive taken it down and cleaned it thoroughly. Both springs seem fine, both gongs sound nicely when struck with the screwdriver handle yet still it only Dongs so Ive wired both door pushes to the Dong end so we at least hear something whichever door push is pushed. Now off to order a 12v replacement as I'm fed up with fiddling with it! Ive saved a picture of the innards here. https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwzjpno6fu..._4404.jpg?dl=0 or https://tinyurl.com/y4f3dsfb Mike Assuming the ding when you press the button and the dong when you release, if no ding are you sure it is getting the full 12v (or whatever) Check all connections are clean and tight, and the fuse holder too if it has one. -- *The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Doorbell?
On 15/07/2019 15:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Muddymike wrote: On 14/07/2019 08:34, Brian Gaff wrote: You don't need a new bell just a clean out and a new spring. The bell works simply like a solenoid. The spring brings the plunger back and it overshoots and hits the dong then goes back to the middle again. Ive taken it down and cleaned it thoroughly. Both springs seem fine, both gongs sound nicely when struck with the screwdriver handle yet still it only Dongs so Ive wired both door pushes to the Dong end so we at least hear something whichever door push is pushed. Now off to order a 12v replacement as I'm fed up with fiddling with it! Ive saved a picture of the innards here. https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwzjpno6fu..._4404.jpg?dl=0 or https://tinyurl.com/y4f3dsfb Mike Assuming the ding when you press the button and the dong when you release, if no ding are you sure it is getting the full 12v (or whatever) Check all connections are clean and tight, and the fuse holder too if it has one. I like the cleaning instructions on the sticker. -- Adam |
Doorbell?
On 15/07/2019 19:43, ARW wrote:
I like the cleaning instructions on the sticker. I'd follow that. I earlier suggested oiling it, but using some mild solvent like lighter fluid to remove any gunk seems a better idea. The most likely explanation for the issue with this bell is simply that the grease or whatever they put inside has congealed over the 50-odd years that it looks like it's been in use. A bit of TLC would probably see it last another 50. :) |
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