shower tray waste issue
I havent ordered tray yet.
Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. https://imgur.com/fOlOTuR |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 21:41, ss wrote:
I havent ordered tray yet. Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. https://imgur.com/fOlOTuR I think you have to continue your hunt for one with the outflow in the right place? I would have thought a waste 1/2 way along the long dimension would be available from somewhere! |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 22:09, Fredxx wrote:
On 02/06/2019 21:41, ss wrote: I havent ordered tray yet. Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. https://imgur.com/fOlOTuR I think you have to continue your hunt for one with the outflow in the right place? I would have thought a waste 1/2 way along the long dimension would be available from somewhere! A cheap one? https://www.ergonomicdesigns.co.uk/p...ower-tray.html There are others |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 21:41, ss wrote:
I havent ordered tray yet. Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. https://imgur.com/fOlOTuR Is that sketch accurate? Not much overlap where the joists are joined. or is there a support underneath? A very large tray with the drain in the middle is not a great idea. They can snap in the middle, because that is the thinnest point and that's also the most stressed point. Mira do a 1400 x 800 with the waste at one end. Too long for you? I thought you were going to raise everything up a bit, so does it matter where the joist is? |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 22:09, Fredxx wrote:
I think you have to continue your hunt for one with the outflow in the right place? I would have thought a waste 1/2 way along the long dimension would be available from somewhere! yes I can get them but trying to avoid as the plumber would prefer to get the waste as near to the stack as possible and avoid going through several joists and at that point I will have laid the overboarding so the access to connect would have to be from the adjoining room. |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 22:15, GB wrote:
Is that sketch accurate? Not much overlap where the joists are joined. or is there a support underneath? .........I believe it maybe a support wall underneath, it is not to scale. A very large tray with the drain in the middle is not a great idea. They can snap in the middle, because that is the thinnest point and that's also the most stressed point. Mira do a 1400 x 800 with the waste at one end. Too long for you? ............I will check that out. I thought you were going to raise everything up a bit, so does it matter where the joist is? ...No, I wanted low profile and the plumber has had a look and can accommodate the waste a bit lower down in the stack. I think he is going to add an additional piece in to the waste stack but a bit lower than the current one. |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 22:13, Fredxx wrote:
I think you have to continue your hunt for one with the outflow in the right place? I would have thought a waste 1/2 way along the long dimension would be available from somewhere! A cheap one? https://www.ergonomicdesigns.co.uk/p...ower-tray.html There are others I dont want the waste half way along the length as that creates more issues. |
shower tray waste issue
On Sunday, 2 June 2019 21:41:49 UTC+1, ss wrote:
I havent ordered tray yet. Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. https://imgur.com/fOlOTuR An option not yet mentioned is to add crosspieces between joists each side of the cut so the joist you cut gets supported by its neighbours. NT |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 21:41, ss wrote:
I havent ordered tray yet. Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. https://imgur.com/fOlOTuR When I put in our shower, there was a joist partly in the way. I used a shallow waste, with an elbow mounted straight onto it, dropping down the side of the joist and notched the joist (and the floorboard above from underneath to clear the elbow). The notch in the joist was only a few mm more than already used elsewhere by 3/4" pipes installed from new and the joist was no longer having to support a full bath, so a little loss of strength did not concern me. SteveW |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 22:44, Steve Walker wrote:
When I put in our shower, there was a joist partly in the way. I used a shallow waste, with an elbow mounted straight onto it, dropping down the side of the joist and notched the joist (and the floorboard above from underneath to clear the elbow). The notch in the joist was only a few mm more than already used elsewhere by 3/4" pipes installed from new and the joist was no longer having to support a full bath, so a little loss of strength did not concern me. Unfortunately this waste would be bang right in the middle of the joist so would need to take approx half the depth of the joist away. I am now thinking about a narrow shelf (maybe 3 inches) at the opposite end to the waste pipe end so I could slide the tray down towards the waste by the required amount. I just wonder if I could seal the `shelf` properly to make it watertight. |
shower tray waste issue
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shower tray waste issue
On Monday, 3 June 2019 00:27:10 UTC+1, ss wrote:
On 02/06/2019 22:37, tabbypurr wrote: An option not yet mentioned is to add crosspieces between joists each side of the cut so the joist you cut gets supported by its neighbours. I will google that for further info, thanks Tabby.. same method as used for loft floor openings NT |
shower tray waste issue
An option not yet mentioned is to add crosspieces between joists each side of the cut so the joist you cut gets supported by its neighbours.
+1 Richard |
shower tray waste issue
On 03/06/2019 10:04, wrote:
On Monday, 3 June 2019 00:27:10 UTC+1, ss wrote: On 02/06/2019 22:37, tabbypurr wrote: An option not yet mentioned is to add crosspieces between joists each side of the cut so the joist you cut gets supported by its neighbours. I will google that for further info, thanks Tabby.. same method as used for loft floor openings The term usually used for these is "stringers" -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 22:25, ss wrote:
On 02/06/2019 22:13, Fredxx wrote: I think you have to continue your hunt for one with the outflow in the right place? I would have thought a waste 1/2 way along the long dimension would be available from somewhere! A cheap one? https://www.ergonomicdesigns.co.uk/p...ower-tray.html There are others I dont want the waste half way along the length as that creates more issues. So what solution are you looking for exactly? (I have a catalogue here with hundreds of trays of all shapes and sizes, and quite a variety of water outlet positions, I can look for a (slightly) different size if you want?). -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
shower tray waste issue
On 03/06/2019 10:33, John Rumm wrote:
So what solution are you looking for exactly? (I have a catalogue here with hundreds of trays of all shapes and sizes, and quite a variety of water outlet positions, I can look for a (slightly) different size if you want?). The plumber is coming back out tomorrow to look at options for me, will see how that goes first. |
shower tray waste issue
On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 21:41:43 +0100
ss wrote: I havent ordered tray yet. Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. You could custom make to your own requirements in concrete and/or GRP. |
shower tray waste issue
Rob Morley Wrote in message:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 21:41:43 +0100 ss wrote: I havent ordered tray yet. Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. You could custom make to your own requirements in concrete and/or GRP. Looking forward to the photos already ;-) -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
shower tray waste issue
On Monday, 3 June 2019 12:14:47 UTC+1, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/06/2019 22:37, tabbypurr wrote: On Sunday, 2 June 2019 21:41:49 UTC+1, ss wrote: I havent ordered tray yet. Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. https://imgur.com/fOlOTuR An option not yet mentioned is to add crosspieces between joists each side of the cut so the joist you cut gets supported by its neighbours. NT Or, as you don't need to use the full depth of the joist, cut away what you need to, and use galvanised steel heavy duty restraint straps bolted either side of the joists at the bottom to strengthen what's left. Pre-drilled 5mm thick by 30mm wide seems commonly available. Cheers You could. I wouldn't like to. NT |
shower tray waste issue
On 02/06/2019 21:41, ss wrote:
I havent ordered tray yet. Ideally I want a 1200 x 800 tray. Unfortunately the waste connection would be directly above a joist. A longer 1300 tray all appear to have the waste in the middle of the tray and would need to attempt access to connect from the adjoining room so trying to avoid that. I am trying to achieve a sort of walk-in so a shorter tray I am trying to avoid. Any thoughts on how to solve this I am reasonable at DIY, plumber will make connections though. See image. https://imgur.com/fOlOTuR Quick question? Which is the shortest? The Hundred Years War or your bathroom refit? -- Adam |
shower tray waste issue
On 03/06/2019 20:47, ARW wrote:
Quick question? Which is the shortest? The Hundred Years War or your bathroom refit? -- Adam Safe to bet on the 100 years war Downstairs bathroom took me about 2 months, In speed mode with this one probably about 5-6 weeks. |
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