Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
UK diy (uk.d-i-y) For the discussion of all topics related to diy (do-it-yourself) in the UK. All levels of experience and proficency are welcome to join in to ask questions or offer solutions. |
Reply |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
Posted to uk.d-i-y
|
|||
|
|||
Mortise lock question
I needed to replace the mortise lock on a wooden patio door, so I bought another ERA brand one online hoping it'd fit without much adjustment.
The lock fits just fine but the issue is the plate that covers the lock, and the keep. The doors have rebates on both edges and overlap, the keep and plate are designed to fit this rebate. I thought I could use the old ones on my new lock but although the lock has the same basic dimensions the layout is subtly different such that the old ones won't fit. I need to order a set of the bits required and am wondering what they are called to help find them online? This photo shows what I'm talking about: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8tn0qxl2sj...43115.jpg?dl=0 |
#2
Posted to uk.d-i-y
|
|||
|
|||
Mortise lock question
"Murmansk" wrote in message
... The lock fits just fine but the issue is the plate that covers the lock, and the keep. The doors have rebates on both edges and overlap, the keep and plate are designed to fit this rebate. I thought I could use the old ones on my new lock but although the lock has the same basic dimensions the layout is subtly different such that the old ones won't fit. When I had this problem, after a lock began to jam and needed to be replaced, I just used the new striker plate that came with the new lock, which meant chiselling out a bit more of the door frame to take the slightly different placement of the "pockets" for the handle and lock bolts. I never know whether "mortise" should be spelled "mortice" in the UK. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/mortise lists both spellings without any "UK / US" advice. I would tend to think of "mortise" as the American spelling of "mortice". |
#3
Posted to uk.d-i-y
|
|||
|
|||
Mortise lock question
On Saturday, 18 May 2019 10:36:07 UTC+1, Murmansk wrote:
The doors have rebates on both edges and overlap, Double door rebate conversion kit, or similar http://www.conquest-ironmongery.co.u...s-c102x3204051 https://ironmongeryexperts.co.uk/loc...bate-sets.html https://www.imperiallocks.co.uk/rebate-sets/ Owain |
#4
Posted to uk.d-i-y
|
|||
|
|||
Mortise lock question
Thanks folks - makes sense that it'd be called "rebate set" with the benefit of hindsight!
As for the spelling of mortice/mortise, again with the benefit of hindsight, I prefer mortice!! |
#5
Posted to uk.d-i-y
|
|||
|
|||
Mortise lock question
On 18/05/2019 11:14, NY wrote:
I never know whether "mortise" should be spelled "mortice" in the UK. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/mortise lists both spellings without any "UK / US" advice. I would tend to think of "mortise" as the American spelling of "mortice". I looked it up. There seems to be no clear afavouritre,. I spell it mortice. "I before E when surrounding a C".... -- €œIdeas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance" - John K Galbraith |
#6
Posted to uk.d-i-y
|
|||
|
|||
Mortise lock question
On 18/05/2019 10:36, Murmansk wrote:
I needed to replace the mortise lock on a wooden patio door, so I bought another ERA brand one online hoping it'd fit without much adjustment. The lock fits just fine but the issue is the plate that covers the lock, and the keep. The doors have rebates on both edges and overlap, the keep and plate are designed to fit this rebate. I thought I could use the old ones on my new lock but although the lock has the same basic dimensions the layout is subtly different such that the old ones won't fit. I need to order a set of the bits required and am wondering what they are called to help find them online? This photo shows what I'm talking about: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8tn0qxl2sj...43115.jpg?dl=0 In the past faced with similar issues I have found it simpler to "modify" the existing striker plate with a Dremel so that the new lock clears. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
#8
Posted to uk.d-i-y
|
|||
|
|||
Mortise lock question
Yes and when it does not fit you are mortise-fied?
Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 18/05/2019 11:14, NY wrote: I never know whether "mortise" should be spelled "mortice" in the UK. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/mortise lists both spellings without any "UK / US" advice. I would tend to think of "mortise" as the American spelling of "mortice". I looked it up. There seems to be no clear afavouritre,. I spell it mortice. "I before E when surrounding a C".... -- "Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance" - John K Galbraith |
#9
Posted to uk.d-i-y
|
|||
|
|||
Mortise lock question
On 18/05/2019 10:36, Murmansk wrote:
I needed to replace the mortise lock on a wooden patio door, so I bought another ERA brand one online hoping it'd fit without much adjustment. The lock fits just fine but the issue is the plate that covers the lock, and the keep. The doors have rebates on both edges and overlap, the keep and plate are designed to fit this rebate. I thought I could use the old ones on my new lock but although the lock has the same basic dimensions the layout is subtly different such that the old ones won't fit. I need to order a set of the bits required and am wondering what they are called to help find them online? This photo shows what I'm talking about: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8tn0qxl2sj...43115.jpg?dl=0 The alternative approach is to take some bits out of the new lock and use that to repair the old one. It obviously depends on what's wrong with the old one and how much ERA have changed the design internally over the years. |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
Need a replacement spring for a mortise lock | Home Repair | |||
Converting interior mortise lock from skelaton key to thumb turn | Home Repair | |||
How to fit a mortise lock | UK diy | |||
Help on front door mortise lock | Home Repair | |||
restoring a Penn mortise lock | Home Repair |