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ss May 11th 19 09:35 AM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
I have stripped out the bathroom and other half wants a vanity unit for
the sink and toilet pan. With the layout I have to keep the toilet pan
on the right.
Is there likely to be an issue in trying to take the waste pipe to the
toilet pan, I have only ever had seperate sink / pan before.
I am concerned about space for the waste connection to the pan and if I
cut out an access for the easte pipe in the vanity unit will it
compromise the strength of the unit.
The visible waste pipe would then be boxed in.

ss May 11th 19 09:35 AM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
On 11/05/2019 09:35, ss wrote:
I have stripped out the bathroom and other half wants a vanity unit for
the sink and toilet pan. With the layout I have to keep the toilet pan
on the right.
Is there likely to be an issue in trying to take the waste pipe to the
toilet pan, I have only ever had seperate sink / pan before.
I am concerned about space for the waste connection to the pan and if I
cut out an access for the easte pipe in the vanity unit will it
compromise the strength of the unit.
The visible waste pipe would then be boxed in.



Oooops the image:
https://imgur.com/WxuO20E

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] May 11th 19 09:48 AM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
On 11/05/2019 09:35, ss wrote:
On 11/05/2019 09:35, ss wrote:
I have stripped out the bathroom and other half wants a vanity unit
for the sink and toilet pan. With the layout I have to keep the toilet
pan on the right.
Is there likely to be an issue in trying to take the waste pipe to the
toilet pan, I have only ever had seperate sink / pan before.
I am concerned about space for the waste connection to the pan and if
I cut out an access for the easte pipe in the vanity unit will it
compromise the strength of the unit.
The visible waste pipe would then be boxed in.



Oooops the image:
https://imgur.com/WxuO20E


Looks fine to me. You could always glue a sheet of ply inside the vanity
unit where it is cut away.

Just check that a right angle connector will fit for the loo.Or yopu
might enmd up having to fill a gap between the vanity unit and te wall.


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poor.

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Brian Gaff May 11th 19 10:34 AM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
Depends on the actual construction some of the cheaper ones rigidity is
because of a fairly substantial back made of wood.
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"ss" wrote in message
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I have stripped out the bathroom and other half wants a vanity unit for the
sink and toilet pan. With the layout I have to keep the toilet pan on the
right.
Is there likely to be an issue in trying to take the waste pipe to the
toilet pan, I have only ever had seperate sink / pan before.
I am concerned about space for the waste connection to the pan and if I
cut out an access for the easte pipe in the vanity unit will it compromise
the strength of the unit.
The visible waste pipe would then be boxed in.




DerbyBorn[_5_] May 11th 19 05:18 PM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
ss wrote in :

I have stripped out the bathroom and other half wants a vanity unit for
the sink and toilet pan. With the layout I have to keep the toilet pan
on the right.
Is there likely to be an issue in trying to take the waste pipe to the
toilet pan, I have only ever had seperate sink / pan before.
I am concerned about space for the waste connection to the pan and if I
cut out an access for the easte pipe in the vanity unit will it
compromise the strength of the unit.
The visible waste pipe would then be boxed in.


We are looking at a similar type of unit and I am concerned about the
centre distances - I will want the basin centred under the window and the
WC lined up the existing outlet.I don't like bodging the WC Outlet with
flexible pipes. Is there any fiddle space on the WC positioning?


ss May 11th 19 08:19 PM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
On 11/05/2019 17:18, DerbyBorn wrote:
We are looking at a similar type of unit and I am concerned about the
centre distances - I will want the basin centred under the window and the
WC lined up the existing outlet.I don't like bodging the WC Outlet with
flexible pipes. Is there any fiddle space on the WC positioning?


I dont know thats what I have been trying to find out.
The plumber should be back here next week as he is hoping if possible to
alter the stack pipe so I dont have to use risers on the shower tray. So
will speak to him before I order anything.

DerbyBorn[_5_] May 12th 19 10:15 AM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
ss wrote in :

On 11/05/2019 17:18, DerbyBorn wrote:
We are looking at a similar type of unit and I am concerned about the
centre distances - I will want the basin centred under the window and
the WC lined up the existing outlet.I don't like bodging the WC
Outlet with flexible pipes. Is there any fiddle space on the WC
positioning?


I dont know thats what I have been trying to find out.
The plumber should be back here next week as he is hoping if possible
to alter the stack pipe so I dont have to use risers on the shower
tray. So will speak to him before I order anything.


I would like to do away with risers - but that would mean boring a hole
through a joist (that also carries cables)

ss May 12th 19 02:33 PM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
On 12/05/2019 10:15, DerbyBorn wrote:
I would like to do away with risers - but that would mean boring a hole
through a joist (that also carries cables)


Googled:
...."(Engineered floor joists can be drilled only according to their
manufacturer's guidelines.) ... The maximum allowable diameter of a hole
in any solid-lumber joist is one-third of the joist's depth. Notches
can't be deeper than one-sixth of the joist depth"......

polygonum_on_google[_2_] May 12th 19 02:38 PM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
On Saturday, 11 May 2019 09:35:25 UTC+1, ss wrote:
I have stripped out the bathroom and other half wants a vanity unit for
the sink and toilet pan. With the layout I have to keep the toilet pan
on the right.
Is there likely to be an issue in trying to take the waste pipe to the
toilet pan, I have only ever had seperate sink / pan before.
I am concerned about space for the waste connection to the pan and if I
cut out an access for the easte pipe in the vanity unit will it
compromise the strength of the unit.
The visible waste pipe would then be boxed in.


When I fitted a vanity unit sink, I used flexible waste pipe, with glued ends, and a HepVO trap. Meant it had minimal impact on cupboard space and I was able to route it round the back of the unit.

Would do the same again, given the choice.

DerbyBorn[_5_] May 12th 19 02:46 PM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
ss wrote in :

On 12/05/2019 10:15, DerbyBorn wrote:
I would like to do away with risers - but that would mean boring a hole
through a joist (that also carries cables)


Googled:
..."(Engineered floor joists can be drilled only according to their
manufacturer's guidelines.) ... The maximum allowable diameter of a hole
in any solid-lumber joist is one-third of the joist's depth. Notches
can't be deeper than one-sixth of the joist depth"......


Thanks - hoping to avoid this. It is a joist at the very edge of the upper
floor so most loads are taken by the next joist.

PeterC May 12th 19 10:33 PM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
On Sun, 12 May 2019 06:38:38 -0700 (PDT), polygonum_on_google wrote:

On Saturday, 11 May 2019 09:35:25 UTC+1, ss wrote:
I have stripped out the bathroom and other half wants a vanity unit for
the sink and toilet pan. With the layout I have to keep the toilet pan
on the right.
Is there likely to be an issue in trying to take the waste pipe to the
toilet pan, I have only ever had seperate sink / pan before.
I am concerned about space for the waste connection to the pan and if I
cut out an access for the easte pipe in the vanity unit will it
compromise the strength of the unit.
The visible waste pipe would then be boxed in.


When I fitted a vanity unit sink, I used flexible waste pipe, with glued ends, and a HepVO trap. Meant it had minimal impact on cupboard space and I was able to route it round the back of the unit.

Would do the same again, given the choice.


This is very shallow, as it is just a tight elbow then into the trap - works
in the same way as a HepVo:
https://www.toolstation.com/viva-mag...e-valve/p82878
https://www.toolstation.com/viva-mag...e-valve/p16545

(32 mm and 40 mm. Also, less than half the price of the HepVo.
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whilst religions hold sway

ss May 13th 19 12:38 PM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
On 12/05/2019 22:33, PeterC wrote:
When I fitted a vanity unit sink, I used flexible waste pipe, with glued ends, and a HepVO trap. Meant it had minimal impact on cupboard space and I was able to route it round the back of the unit.

Would do the same again, given the choice.


I am ok for using a flexi for the sink, just concerned about cutting in
to the unit to get access to the toilet waste in case it compromises the
strength of the unit.

polygonum_on_google[_2_] May 13th 19 07:56 PM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
On Sunday, 12 May 2019 22:33:47 UTC+1, PeterC wrote:
On Sun, 12 May 2019 06:38:38 -0700 (PDT), polygonum_on_google wrote:

On Saturday, 11 May 2019 09:35:25 UTC+1, ss wrote:
I have stripped out the bathroom and other half wants a vanity unit for
the sink and toilet pan. With the layout I have to keep the toilet pan
on the right.
Is there likely to be an issue in trying to take the waste pipe to the
toilet pan, I have only ever had seperate sink / pan before.
I am concerned about space for the waste connection to the pan and if I
cut out an access for the easte pipe in the vanity unit will it
compromise the strength of the unit.
The visible waste pipe would then be boxed in.


When I fitted a vanity unit sink, I used flexible waste pipe, with glued ends, and a HepVO trap. Meant it had minimal impact on cupboard space and I was able to route it round the back of the unit.

Would do the same again, given the choice.


This is very shallow, as it is just a tight elbow then into the trap - works
in the same way as a HepVo:
https://www.toolstation.com/viva-mag...e-valve/p82878
https://www.toolstation.com/viva-mag...e-valve/p16545

(32 mm and 40 mm. Also, less than half the price of the HepVo.


Not seen them before!


polygonum_on_google[_2_] May 13th 19 08:00 PM

Bathroom Waste pipe V vanity unit
 
On Monday, 13 May 2019 12:38:32 UTC+1, ss wrote:
On 12/05/2019 22:33, PeterC wrote:
When I fitted a vanity unit sink, I used flexible waste pipe, with glued ends, and a HepVO trap. Meant it had minimal impact on cupboard space and I was able to route it round the back of the unit.

Would do the same again, given the choice.


I am ok for using a flexi for the sink, just concerned about cutting in
to the unit to get access to the toilet waste in case it compromises the
strength of the unit.


The bog unit, I assume, has no floor. But is otherwise the same construction as the basin one? In which case, no issue. Except the probability of needing to have some sort of raised floor higher than the WC waste pipe.

It is so easy to add strength to units like this, if needed.


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