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Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
There's a huge Copper Beech tree ,
twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? It has to be 4 to 6 feet deep to be downhill from existing sewer pipes, and to get into the field. One of the neighbors wrote yesterday: "Priority 1 is to stop the rain water flow into septic tank Priority 2, ensure sewage conduit to tank is not blocked (take down beech tree or find another conduit)" Today I emailed the council to get a Tree Preservation Order. There's a new septic law coming in next January: https://www.struttandparker.com/know...nk-regulations says: "Under the GBRs, anyone with a septic tank discharging into a watercourse must replace it or upgrade it by 1 January 2020, or sooner if the property is sold before this date, or if the Environment Agency (EA) finds that it is causing pollution." George |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another HUNDRED years without chopping the roots and killing the tree?
On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:26:09 PM UTC+1, George Miles wrote: There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? It has to be 4 to 6 feet deep to be downhill from existing sewer pipes, and to get into the field. One of the neighbors wrote yesterday: "Priority 1 is to stop the rain water flow into septic tank Priority 2, ensure sewage conduit to tank is not blocked (take down beech tree or find another conduit)" Today I emailed the council to get a Tree Preservation Order. There's a new septic law coming in next January: https://www.struttandparker.com/know...nk-regulations says: "Under the GBRs, anyone with a septic tank discharging into a watercourse must replace it or upgrade it by 1 January 2020, or sooner if the property is sold before this date, or if the Environment Agency (EA) finds that it is causing pollution." George |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
George Miles Wrote in message:
So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another HUNDRED years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:26:09 PM UTC+1, George Miles wrote: There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? It has to be 4 to 6 feet deep to be downhill from existing sewer pipes, and to get into the field. One of the neighbors wrote yesterday: "Priority 1 is to stop the rain water flow into septic tank Priority 2, ensure sewage conduit to tank is not blocked (take down beech tree or find another conduit)" Today I emailed the council to get a Tree Preservation Order. There's a new septic law coming in next January: https://www.struttandparker.com/know...nk-regulations says: "Under the GBRs, anyone with a septic tank discharging into a watercourse must replace it or upgrade it by 1 January 2020, or sooner if the property is sold before this date, or if the Environment Agency (EA) finds that it is causing pollution." George Get the existing pipe internally sleeved? How will trimming a few roots in a pipe kill a huge tree? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
I think digging a trench for a new pipe would kill half the roots.
I'm told the pipe at 6 inches is a bit to thin for relining as it serves 7 properties G On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:38:52 PM UTC+1, JimK wrote: George Miles Wrote in message: So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another HUNDRED years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:26:09 PM UTC+1, George Miles wrote: There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? It has to be 4 to 6 feet deep to be downhill from existing sewer pipes, and to get into the field. One of the neighbors wrote yesterday: "Priority 1 is to stop the rain water flow into septic tank Priority 2, ensure sewage conduit to tank is not blocked (take down beech tree or find another conduit)" Today I emailed the council to get a Tree Preservation Order. There's a new septic law coming in next January: https://www.struttandparker.com/know...nk-regulations says: "Under the GBRs, anyone with a septic tank discharging into a watercourse must replace it or upgrade it by 1 January 2020, or sooner if the property is sold before this date, or if the Environment Agency (EA) finds that it is causing pollution." George Get the existing pipe internally sleeved? How will trimming a few roots in a pipe kill a huge tree? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
On Thursday, 18 April 2019 22:51:57 UTC+1, George Miles wrote:
On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:38:52 PM UTC+1, JimK wrote: George Miles Wrote in message: So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another HUNDRED years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:26:09 PM UTC+1, George Miles wrote: There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? It has to be 4 to 6 feet deep to be downhill from existing sewer pipes, and to get into the field. One of the neighbors wrote yesterday: "Priority 1 is to stop the rain water flow into septic tank Priority 2, ensure sewage conduit to tank is not blocked (take down beech tree or find another conduit)" Today I emailed the council to get a Tree Preservation Order. There's a new septic law coming in next January: https://www.struttandparker.com/know...nk-regulations says: "Under the GBRs, anyone with a septic tank discharging into a watercourse must replace it or upgrade it by 1 January 2020, or sooner if the property is sold before this date, or if the Environment Agency (EA) finds that it is causing pollution." George Get the existing pipe internally sleeved? How will trimming a few roots in a pipe kill a huge tree? I think digging a trench for a new pipe would kill half the roots. I'm told the pipe at 6 inches is a bit to thin for relining as it serves 7 properties G Then you've answered your question, there is only 1 other option, reroute it NT |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
On Thursday, 18 April 2019 22:26:09 UTC+1, George Miles wrote:
There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? It has to be 4 to 6 feet deep to be downhill from existing sewer pipes, and to get into the field. One of the neighbors wrote yesterday: "Priority 1 is to stop the rain water flow into septic tank Priority 2, ensure sewage conduit to tank is not blocked (take down beech tree or find another conduit)" Today I emailed the council to get a Tree Preservation Order. There's a new septic law coming in next January: https://www.struttandparker.com/know...nk-regulations says: "Under the GBRs, anyone with a septic tank discharging into a watercourse must replace it or upgrade it by 1 January 2020, or sooner if the property is sold before this date, or if the Environment Agency (EA) finds that it is causing pollution." Not a problem (Only money) Horizontal boring machines. Eg:- http://www.trenchlesssolutions.co.uk...onal-drilling/ |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
George Miles Wrote in message:
I think digging a trench for a new pipe would kill half the roots. I'm told the pipe at 6 inches is a bit to thin for relining as it serves 7 properties G Told by the one who wants to drop your tree? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
On 19/04/2019 07:30, Jim K.. wrote:
George Miles Wrote in message: I think digging a trench for a new pipe would kill half the roots. I'm told the pipe at 6 inches is a bit to thin for relining as it serves 7 properties G Told by the one who wants to drop your tree? Around here the cable company had to hand dig trenches so they didn't cut the tree roots with a digger. It is quite possible to dig a trench and leave the roots crossing it and then thread the pipe through with minimal damage to the tree. The same as they do with multiple services crossing the pipe. It just costs money. You may have to make the trench longer to get the pipe in. |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
On 18/04/2019 22:51, George Miles wrote:
On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:38:52 PM UTC+1, JimK wrote: George Wrote in message: So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another HUNDRED years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:26:09 PM UTC+1, George Miles wrote: There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? It has to be 4 to 6 feet deep to be downhill from existing sewer pipes, and to get into the field. One of the neighbors wrote yesterday: "Priority 1 is to stop the rain water flow into septic tank Priority 2, ensure sewage conduit to tank is not blocked (take down beech tree or find another conduit)" Today I emailed the council to get a Tree Preservation Order. There's a new septic law coming in next January: https://www.struttandparker.com/know...nk-regulations says: "Under the GBRs, anyone with a septic tank discharging into a watercourse must replace it or upgrade it by 1 January 2020, or sooner if the property is sold before this date, or if the Environment Agency (EA) finds that it is causing pollution." George Get the existing pipe internally sleeved? How will trimming a few roots in a pipe kill a huge tree? -- Jim K I think digging a trench for a new pipe would kill half the roots. But there's no need for that. I'm told the pipe at 6 inches is a bit to(o) thin for relining as it serves 7 properties Rubbish! Who told you that? Have you had the pipe surveyed with a camera? Chances are that there is a tangle of very fine roots which have got in through the joints in the clay pipe. These can easily be removed by rotating cutters which can be fed along the pipe from a manhole without needing any digging. Then the pipe can be lined with a soft glass fibre-impregnated sleeve, fed in using air pressure, which than cures and makes a rigid lining. It doesn't reduce the diameter by much. we have a 4" pipe feeding into a manhole in our garden, which serves far more than 7 houses. This had to be lined a few years ago, with no ill effects. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
On 18/04/2019 22:38, Jim K.. wrote:
George Miles Wrote in message: So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another HUNDRED years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:26:09 PM UTC+1, George Miles wrote: There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? It has to be 4 to 6 feet deep to be downhill from existing sewer pipes, and to get into the field. One of the neighbors wrote yesterday: "Priority 1 is to stop the rain water flow into septic tank Priority 2, ensure sewage conduit to tank is not blocked (take down beech tree or find another conduit)" Today I emailed the council to get a Tree Preservation Order. There's a new septic law coming in next January: https://www.struttandparker.com/know...nk-regulations says: "Under the GBRs, anyone with a septic tank discharging into a watercourse must replace it or upgrade it by 1 January 2020, or sooner if the property is sold before this date, or if the Environment Agency (EA) finds that it is causing pollution." George Get the existing pipe internally sleeved? How will trimming a few roots in a pipe kill a huge tree? That's what I did with mine. Got quotes from two firms, one offering polyester and the other epoxy (a bit more expensive). ALthough I would normally have gone with epoxy, the cheaper firm impressed me a bit more and I went with that. I was impressed how quickly they did it, and managing quite limited access. It's been fine for getting on for ten years. |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
On 19/04/2019 10:00, dennis@home wrote:
On 19/04/2019 07:30, Jim K.. wrote: George Miles Wrote in message: I think digging a trench for a new pipe would kill half the roots. I'm told the pipe at 6 inches is a bit to thin for relining as it serves 7 properties G Told by the one who wants to drop your tree? Around here the cable company had to hand dig trenches so they didn't cut the tree roots with a digger. It is quite possible to dig a trench and leave the roots crossing it and then thread the pipe through with minimal damage to the tree. The same as they do with multiple services crossing the pipe. That's exactly what they did when installing cable in the surrounding roads here (after complaints when they just cut straight through every root in the way on the first couple of streets). SteveW |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
On 18/04/2019 22:26, George Miles wrote:
There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? There won't be many structural roots at 6ft below ground. National Joint Utility Group guidelines suggest how to excavate within the rooting zone of a tree, it was perceived wisdom not to trench within a radius of four times the girth of a tree. Even within that it should be possible to air spade short sections and pass the pipe under. I don't know much about excavations and it must depend on soil type but I have heard of dragging a pipe along the route of an existing pipe by using a wedge to burst and expand the hole of the existing pipe. Beech have a life of 150 to 200 years so if it's that sort of age may as well bite the bullet and fell it at the water company's expense. AJH |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:26:06 -0700 (PDT)
George Miles wrote: There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? There are specialists who can clear a drain and line it with fibreglass to avoid the need for extensive excavation, or you could have a new drain installed using a similar technique. That way they only need an access trench at the end points. Google "drain moling". |
Bury new sewer pipe without killing tree roots ?
Rob Morley Wrote in message:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:26:06 -0700 (PDT) George Miles wrote: There's a huge Copper Beech tree , twice the height of the house, but the old clay sewer pipe has roots in it. So how to dig or bore a trench or tunnel for a new plastic pipe which will last another thousand years without chopping the roots and killing the tree? There are specialists who can clear a drain and line it with fibreglass to avoid the need for extensive excavation, or you could have a new drain installed using a similar technique. That way they only need an access trench at the end points. Google "drain moling". See rest of thread... -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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