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Old cooker switch neon light is on
The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There
was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...n-1356257-.htm |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
Well get yourself onto the usenet group on a sensible system not Home Owners
Club for a start. My guess is that something is connecting the other side of the switch to an earth or neutral. It needs to be investigated. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "LizzyArt" m wrote in message ... The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...n-1356257-.htm |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
LizzyArt m wrote:
The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? If all the ccoker controls work normally I'd assume it is just the switch contacts welded together by arcing, and just replace the main switch. The switch on the cooker probably came to no harm as it was not opened or closed during the fault current. -- Roger Hayter |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
LizzyArt m
Wrote in message: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...n-1356257-.htm Ah! A ring on my H O B!!! -- Graham. %Profound_observation% ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
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LizzyArt m wrote: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? If a proper cooker switch properly installed, it will be on its own radial circuit. Not a ring. So yes, get a competent electrician in. -- *He who laughs last has just realised the joke. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
Dave Plowman wrote:
If a proper cooker switch properly installed, it will be on its own radial circuit. Not a ring. So yes, get a competent electrician in. I assume "ring" as in hob element? |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
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Andy Burns wrote: Dave Plowman wrote: If a proper cooker switch properly installed, it will be on its own radial circuit. Not a ring. So yes, get a competent electrician in. I assume "ring" as in hob element? Ah - right. You do have to assume much with these homeownersclub posts. ;-) -- *Middle age is when work is a lot less fun - and fun a lot more work. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
Roger Hayter wrote:
LizzyArt m wrote: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? If all the ccoker controls work normally I'd assume it is just the switch contacts welded together by arcing, and just replace the main switch. The switch on the cooker probably came to no harm as it was not opened or closed during the fault current. But first of all try operating the switch rapidly on and off a dozen or two times in case the contacts free themselves. -- Roger Hayter |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
On Monday, 15 April 2019 00:14:04 UTC+1, LizzyArt wrote:
The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? 1. We need clearer info. 2. Most people here block the website you're using. Go to google groups, this is uk.d-i-y. 3. A multimeter is the best tool to find your fault, and you'll need to read the basics of how to use them. Do the latter first, they die if connected wrong. 4. As someone said, waggling your various switches might work, but that doesn't mean the result will be reliable or necessarily safe. NT |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
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On Monday, 15 April 2019 00:14:04 UTC+1, LizzyArt wrote: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? 1. We need clearer info. 2. Most people here block the website you're using. Go to google groups, this is uk.d-i-y. 3. A multimeter is the best tool to find your fault, and you'll need to read the basics of how to use them. Do the latter first, they die if connected wrong. 4. As someone said, waggling your various switches might work, but that doesn't mean the result will be reliable or necessarily safe. NT As far as detecting the fault is concerned I think the neon is already doing the only task a multimeter would be needed for. However, I do agree that if the switch isn't replaced and the neon goes out with switch manipulation then it would be good idea to check that both the live and the neutral sides of the isolatng switch are opening. -- Roger Hayter |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
On 15/04/2019 15:26, Roger Hayter wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote: LizzyArt m wrote: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? If all the ccoker controls work normally I'd assume it is just the switch contacts welded together by arcing, and just replace the main switch. The switch on the cooker probably came to no harm as it was not opened or closed during the fault current. But first of all try operating the switch rapidly on and off a dozen or two times in case the contacts free themselves. Would you still trust a switch to work correctly if that worked? However I suspect that is a part of your diagnostics with the suggestion of swapping the switch later if it worked. -- Adam |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
On Monday, 15 April 2019 19:13:27 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
tabbypurr wrote: On Monday, 15 April 2019 00:14:04 UTC+1, LizzyArt wrote: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? 1. We need clearer info. 2. Most people here block the website you're using. Go to google groups, this is uk.d-i-y. 3. A multimeter is the best tool to find your fault, and you'll need to read the basics of how to use them. Do the latter first, they die if connected wrong. 4. As someone said, waggling your various switches might work, but that doesn't mean the result will be reliable or necessarily safe. As far as detecting the fault is concerned I think the neon is already doing the only task a multimeter would be needed for. not even close NT However, I do agree that if the switch isn't replaced and the neon goes out with switch manipulation then it would be good idea to check that both the live and the neutral sides of the isolatng switch are opening. |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
ARW wrote:
On 15/04/2019 15:26, Roger Hayter wrote: Roger Hayter wrote: LizzyArt m wrote: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? If all the ccoker controls work normally I'd assume it is just the switch contacts welded together by arcing, and just replace the main switch. The switch on the cooker probably came to no harm as it was not opened or closed during the fault current. But first of all try operating the switch rapidly on and off a dozen or two times in case the contacts free themselves. Would you still trust a switch to work correctly if that worked? Yes, It works with relay contacts, anyway, I've had years of useful life out them. But, as per other post, I suppose one should check that *both* switch poles are open. However I suspect that is a part of your diagnostics with the suggestion of swapping the switch later if it worked. I really don't think any other diagnostics are necessary, as long as all the cooker controls work as expectd. I don't suppose any of them are two pole switches. -- Roger Hayter |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
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Old cooker switch neon light is on
On Monday, 15 April 2019 21:24:12 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
On 15/04/2019 20:46, tabbypurr wrote: On Monday, 15 April 2019 19:13:27 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote: tabbypurr wrote: On Monday, 15 April 2019 00:14:04 UTC+1, LizzyArt wrote: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on.. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? 1. We need clearer info. 2. Most people here block the website you're using. Go to google groups, this is uk.d-i-y. 3. A multimeter is the best tool to find your fault, and you'll need to read the basics of how to use them. Do the latter first, they die if connected wrong. 4. As someone said, waggling your various switches might work, but that doesn't mean the result will be reliable or necessarily safe. As far as detecting the fault is concerned I think the neon is already doing the only task a multimeter would be needed for. not even close Well knock about and tell us what is wrong. We don't know do we. A meter is needed to find out. Neon staying on when cooker off typically means a lost neutral. If a switch is welded, unsticking it leaves a high R contact carrying a fair bit of current - I'd prefer to file the contacts than leave it as is. NT I have a fire to watch and a gf to shag. |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
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On Monday, 15 April 2019 21:24:12 UTC+1, ARW wrote: On 15/04/2019 20:46, tabbypurr wrote: On Monday, 15 April 2019 19:13:27 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote: tabbypurr wrote: On Monday, 15 April 2019 00:14:04 UTC+1, LizzyArt wrote: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? 1. We need clearer info. 2. Most people here block the website you're using. Go to google groups, this is uk.d-i-y. 3. A multimeter is the best tool to find your fault, and you'll need to read the basics of how to use them. Do the latter first, they die if connected wrong. 4. As someone said, waggling your various switches might work, but that doesn't mean the result will be reliable or necessarily safe. As far as detecting the fault is concerned I think the neon is already doing the only task a multimeter would be needed for. not even close Well knock about and tell us what is wrong. We don't know do we. A meter is needed to find out. Neon staying on when cooker off typically means a lost neutral. If a switch is welded, unsticking it leaves a high R contact carrying a fair bit of current - I'd prefer to file the contacts than leave it as is. If the cooker works the neutral is intact. I don't think you can easily file the contacts in a commercial cooker isolation switch - if you don't like burnt contacts a new one is in order. -- Roger Hayter |
Old cooker switch neon light is on
On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 09:22:03 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
tabbypurr wrote: On Monday, 15 April 2019 21:24:12 UTC+1, ARW wrote: On 15/04/2019 20:46, tabbypurr wrote: On Monday, 15 April 2019 19:13:27 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote: tabbypurr wrote: On Monday, 15 April 2019 00:14:04 UTC+1, LizzyArt wrote: The ring on my job was on when I turned the switch for the cooker on. There was a large spark and it it tripped the switch. A ring on the job was blown and I replaced it. When I turned the fuse back on the neon light on the cooker switch is on all the time. Do I need to replace that switch now or is there something more that needs to be investigated by a electrician? 1. We need clearer info. 2. Most people here block the website you're using. Go to google groups, this is uk.d-i-y. 3. A multimeter is the best tool to find your fault, and you'll need to read the basics of how to use them. Do the latter first, they die if connected wrong. 4. As someone said, waggling your various switches might work, but that doesn't mean the result will be reliable or necessarily safe. As far as detecting the fault is concerned I think the neon is already doing the only task a multimeter would be needed for. not even close Well knock about and tell us what is wrong. We don't know do we. A meter is needed to find out. Neon staying on when cooker off typically means a lost neutral. If a switch is welded, unsticking it leaves a high R contact carrying a fair bit of current - I'd prefer to file the contacts than leave it as is. If the cooker works the neutral is intact. yes I don't think you can easily file the contacts in a commercial cooker isolation switch - if you don't like burnt contacts a new one is in order. Maybe, but the account is too vague to reliably conclude that imho. Fwiw. Ymmv. Yfmv too. NT |
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