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Fused connection unit question
I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit.
Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...ree4106FCU.JPG Owain |
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On Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:40:28 UTC+1, wrote:
I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...ree4106FCU.JPG Owain I'm guessing it's used for making a fused connection. NT |
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I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...ree4106FCU.JPG Owain Youve not given us much to go on! Okay, Ill say mains powered vibrator in a brothel (hard wired to prevent removal). Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:07:04 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Youve not given us much to go on! Have a think about where the wires go. Okay, Ill say mains powered vibrator in a brothel (hard wired to prevent removal). Have you just been watching Trucking Hell where the lady driver found the butt plug? Owain |
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I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...ree4106FCU.JPG Owain It could be used for several things- one of those small heaters sometimes used in airing cupboards, a fixed electric radiator, a supply to a central heating control system, ...... Weve got some switched ones which are for heater towel rails (they arent in the bathrooms). |
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I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...JPG/564px-Crab tree4106FCU.JPG Owain It's a flex outlet for any appliance up to 13A. Or it could be used equally for another cable into the backbox. The only difference from a modern one is the the electrician is left to use his inititative for protective conductor contnuity. If it doesn't have a switch and this may be inappropriate for some purposes nowadays. But such fused connection units without a switch still have their uses. For instance, my lathe has such a fused unit and one of those two pole red button things to isolate it. -- Roger Hayter |
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No Earth connection
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On Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:00:59 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...JPG/564px-Crab tree4106FCU.JPG Owain It's a flex outlet for any appliance up to 13A. Or it could be used equally for another cable into the backbox. The only difference from a modern one is the the electrician is left to use his inititative for protective conductor contnuity. If it doesn't have a switch and this may be inappropriate for some purposes nowadays. But such fused connection units without a switch still have their uses. For instance, my lathe has such a fused unit and one of those two pole red button things to isolate it. Back then it was normal practice to just twist earth wires together. NT |
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On 4 Apr 2019 21:07:00 GMT, Tim+ wrote:
wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...ree4106FCU.JPG Owain You˘ve not given us much to go on! Okay, I˘ll say mains powered vibrator in a brothel (hard wired to prevent removal). Tim Well, it'd be no good there if it were soft-wired! -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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Well print it out and it will stick over a small hole in the wall... Oh wait
he means the thing in the picture, sorry, since I cannot see it... grin. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... On Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:40:28 UTC+1, wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...ree4106FCU.JPG Owain I'm guessing it's used for making a fused connection. NT |
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Or outdoor Christmas lights like reindeer and santa on roof?
Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Tim+" wrote in message ... wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...ree4106FCU.JPG Owain You've not given us much to go on! Okay, I'll say mains powered vibrator in a brothel (hard wired to prevent removal). Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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I was tempted to think about that Monty Pythons sketch about the slaughter
house with its rotating knives. Actually is there a big radar dish on the roof? Crabtree do a lot of control gear for starting up big motors on three phase supplies... Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... On Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:07:04 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: You've not given us much to go on! Have a think about where the wires go. Okay, I'll say mains powered vibrator in a brothel (hard wired to prevent removal). Have you just been watching Trucking Hell where the lady driver found the butt plug? Owain |
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So is he going to own up as to what it was?
Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Tricky Dicky" wrote in message ... No Earth connection |
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On Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:00:59 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
The only difference from a modern one is the the electrician is left to use his inititative for protective conductor contnuity. Close but no cigar. It *is* a modern one. (Well, fairly modern. The logo dates it 1981-1991.) Front view: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...6FCU-front.JPG Earth-free locations, I presume. Owain |
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On 05/04/2019 09:04, Andy Burns wrote:
wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? Joining non-mains cables, such as TV aerial or phone line? your having a laugh.... -- Report a bad lying Freemason to Mr Baker of UGLE Audi Vide Tace |
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On Friday, 5 April 2019 09:05:48 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
So is he going to own up as to what it was? The first picture was a normal fused connection unit terminals side, but there is no earth connection or earth bar across the mounting holes. The second picture was the front, with a BT logo, and text "This component has no earth terminal and must not be used where a protective earth is required". The faceplate screws are also non-metally (nylon?). Owain |
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On 05/04/2019 09:13, wrote:
On Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:00:59 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote: The only difference from a modern one is the the electrician is left to use his inititative for protective conductor contnuity. Close but no cigar. It *is* a modern one. (Well, fairly modern. The logo dates it 1981-1991.) Front view: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...6FCU-front.JPG Earth-free locations, I presume. Owain some blood british telecom piece of crap....who cares -- Report a bad lying Freemason to Mr Baker of UGLE Audi Vide Tace |
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On Friday, 5 April 2019 09:05:48 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote: So is he going to own up as to what it was? The first picture was a normal fused connection unit terminals side, but there is no earth connection or earth bar across the mounting holes. The second picture was the front, with a BT logo, and text "This component has no earth terminal and must not be used where a protective earth is required". The faceplate screws are also non-metally (nylon?). Owain I think a company more single-mindedly pursuing profit might simply use a commodity FCU and not connect the earth terminal - they can always put a sticker on it, and you otherwise can't tell from the outside anyway (apart from the screws). -- Roger Hayter |
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On Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:00:59 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote: wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...JPG/564px-Crab tree4106FCU.JPG Owain It's a flex outlet for any appliance up to 13A. Or it could be used equally for another cable into the backbox. The only difference from a modern one is the the electrician is left to use his inititative for protective conductor contnuity. If it doesn't have a switch and this may be inappropriate for some purposes nowadays. But such fused connection units without a switch still have their uses. For instance, my lathe has such a fused unit and one of those two pole red button things to isolate it. Back then it was normal practice to just twist earth wires together. NT Wouldn't work too well for a flex outlet. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 05/04/2019 09:13, wrote:
On Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:00:59 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote: The only difference from a modern one is the the electrician is left to use his inititative for protective conductor contnuity. Close but no cigar. It *is* a modern one. (Well, fairly modern. The logo dates it 1981-1991.) Front view: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...6FCU-front.JPG Earth-free locations, I presume. Where's the socket where I can plug my telephone in? -- Max Demian |
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On Friday, 5 April 2019 10:18:35 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
Where's the socket where I can plug my telephone in? In those days, put the phone in the freezing draughty hall If it's too cold to talk long that'll keep the bill small Owain |
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On Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:00:59 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote: The only difference from a modern one is the the electrician is left to use his inititative for protective conductor contnuity. Close but no cigar. It *is* a modern one. (Well, fairly modern. The logo dates it 1981-1991.) Front view: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...6FCU-front.JPG Earth-free locations, I presume. In the electricity industry (both National Grid and the Distribution Network Operators) they were commonly used for powering BT Kilostream X (64kbps) line drivers on sites where there was a risk of a rise of earth potential (during an HV fault) and where connection to the exchange was over copper. Probably last used in the mid to late 1990's They were also used on PABX installations on the same at risk sites. -- |
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would not those uses be a little misleading and in one case overkill in the
other loss making. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Andy Burns" wrote in message ... wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? Joining non-mains cables, such as TV aerial or phone line? |
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On Friday, 5 April 2019 13:37:18 UTC+1, The Other Mike wrote:
In the electricity industry (both National Grid and the Distribution Network Operators) they were commonly used for powering BT Kilostream X (64kbps) line drivers on sites where there was a risk of a rise of earth potential (during an HV fault) and where connection to the exchange was over copper. Probably last used in the mid to late 1990's Interesting, I'd assumed telephone exchanges, hadn't considered subs apps on electricity sites. Owain |
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would not those uses be a little misleading and in one case overkill in the other loss making. But TNP wouldn't be teasing us with the question if it was used as a normal FCU. |
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wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? Testing fuses? -- Richard |
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wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...ree4106FCU.JPG Owain I'm trying to think of anything where a FCU without ground was ever compliant? But it might date from the days of when lighting circuits didn't need a ground. So not really an FCU, but switch with fuse? -- *Do they ever shut up on your planet? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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The Other Mike wrote: In the electricity industry (both National Grid and the Distribution Network Operators) they were commonly used for powering BT Kilostream X (64kbps) line drivers on sites where there was a risk of a rise of earth potential (during an HV fault) and where connection to the exchange was over copper. Probably last used in the mid to late 1990's They were also used on PABX installations on the same at risk sites. Right. So is FCU the correct name for it? -- *I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learner's permit. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 05/04/2019 15:10, Andy Burns wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote: would not those uses be a little misleading and in one case overkill in the other loss making. But TNP wouldn't be teasing us with the question if it was used as a normal FCU. I have not contributed to this thread -- €śThe ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.€ť Herbert Spencer |
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On Friday, 5 April 2019 09:48:51 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
tabbypurr wrote: On Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:00:59 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote: wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...JPG/564px-Crab tree4106FCU.JPG Owain It's a flex outlet for any appliance up to 13A. Or it could be used equally for another cable into the backbox. The only difference from a modern one is the the electrician is left to use his inititative for protective conductor contnuity. If it doesn't have a switch and this may be inappropriate for some purposes nowadays. But such fused connection units without a switch still have their uses. For instance, my lathe has such a fused unit and one of those two pole red button things to isolate it. Back then it was normal practice to just twist earth wires together. NT Wouldn't work too well for a flex outlet. they used choc blocks for that |
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On Friday, 5 April 2019 15:55:14 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , wrote: I've uploaded a picture of a fused connection unit. Would the team like to take a guess what it's used for? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/thu...ree4106FCU.JPG I'm trying to think of anything where a FCU without ground was ever compliant? maybe pre 1955, and obviously it's from much later. But BR don't apply to commercial/industrial sites, and even domestically deviation from the regs is permitted if its safety can be justified. NT |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: But TNP wouldn't be teasing us with the question if it was used as a normal FCU. I have not contributed to this thread OK, as you were ... I got it into my head you were the O/P instead of Owain. |
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On 05/04/2019 18:09, Andy Burns wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: Andy Burns wrote: But TNP wouldn't be teasing us with the question if it was used as a normal FCU. I have not contributed to this thread OK, as you were ... I got it into my head you were the O/P instead of Owain. don't insult Owain. |
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Max Demian wrote Where's the socket where I can plug my telephone in? In those days, put the phone in the freezing draughty hall If it's too cold to talk long that'll keep the bill small Surely you lot didnt always have timed local calls ? |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 15:09:33 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: In those days, put the phone in the freezing draughty hall If it's too cold to talk long that'll keep the bill small Surely you lot didn˘t always have timed local calls ? Surely NOBODY was talking to you in this thread, you obnoxious senile Ozzie pest! -- Bill Wright to Rot Speed: "That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****." MID: |
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On 06/04/2019 05:09, Rod Speed wrote:
wrote Max DemianÂ* wrote Where's the socket where I can plug my telephone in? In those days, put the phone in the freezing draughty hall If it's too cold to talk long that'll keep the bill small Surely you lot didnt always have timed local calls ? Yes. I remember 1p/minute off-peak and 5p/minute peak. -- Max Demian |
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