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Broadback[_3_] February 21st 19 02:49 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed

Clive Arthur February 21st 19 03:01 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:
As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


www.novatech.co.uk

Solid state drive is good. Use a 4K TV as monitor.

Cheers
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Jim GM4DHJ ... February 21st 19 03:05 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 

"Broadback" wrote in message
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As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


windows XP



Brian Gaff February 21st 19 03:41 PM

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Depends what you want to do with it really. Most of them are full of
crudware, so you usually end up paying more from a small maker locally to
get just exactly what software you need instead of a drive full of crapware.
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Brian Gaff February 21st 19 03:42 PM

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I have several of those here.


Maybe a Mac?

If you buy the correct one you can run windows as well.
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windows XP




Adrian Caspersz February 21st 19 03:52 PM

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On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:
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RGB lighting ...

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Bert Coules February 21st 19 04:05 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
My current desktop PC came from P C Specialist:

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/

They built to my exact specification and the machine has proved entirely
reliable and satisfactory. I'd recommend them.


whisky-dave[_2_] February 21st 19 04:13 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 15:42:54 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
I have several of those here.


Maybe a Mac?

If you buy the correct one you can run windows as well.


The correct one, well they can all run windows, but you may have to buy W10 or whatever.

I've heard (no pun intended) that the Macs voice over is quite good.

But as I've never had to use it I can't really comment.

We've bought 96 PCs for the lab all-in-one that seem quite good value, similar to an iMac but less than half the price and as you won't be seeing the display so you won't need retina or even 4K.
The only accurate thing I know about ours is that the weight is 12KG

https://www.dell.com/en-uk/work/shop...iplex-7460-aio


newshound February 21st 19 04:50 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:
As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


Unanswerable without knowing what you want it for.

Do you have one at the moment? How much of it is re-useable (e.g.
keyboard, monitor?). Can it be upgraded?

As a general suggestion I'd say get an SSD at least for the system drive.

Best "bang for the buck" without a doubt will come from a reconditioned
business machine (box only). I've had several Dells, currently on a
Precision 490 which is getting on a bit now. Spend what you save over a
"new" one on one (or more) decent monitors and/or big SSDs.

RJH[_2_] February 21st 19 04:52 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 21/02/2019 16:13, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 15:42:54 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
I have several of those here.


Maybe a Mac?

If you buy the correct one you can run windows as well.


The correct one, well they can all run windows, but you may have to buy W10 or whatever.

I've heard (no pun intended) that the Macs voice over is quite good.

But as I've never had to use it I can't really comment.

We've bought 96 PCs for the lab all-in-one that seem quite good value, similar to an iMac but less than half the price and as you won't be seeing the display so you won't need retina or even 4K.
The only accurate thing I know about ours is that the weight is 12KG

https://www.dell.com/en-uk/work/shop...iplex-7460-aio


Look to be about the same price as an iMac to me.

OptiPlex 7460 All-in-One £939
21.5" iMac 2.3GHz Processor 1TB Storage £1049

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whisky-dave[_2_] February 21st 19 05:06 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 16:52:30 UTC, RJH wrote:
On 21/02/2019 16:13, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 15:42:54 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
I have several of those here.


Maybe a Mac?

If you buy the correct one you can run windows as well.


The correct one, well they can all run windows, but you may have to buy W10 or whatever.

I've heard (no pun intended) that the Macs voice over is quite good.

But as I've never had to use it I can't really comment.

We've bought 96 PCs for the lab all-in-one that seem quite good value, similar to an iMac but less than half the price and as you won't be seeing the display so you won't need retina or even 4K.
The only accurate thing I know about ours is that the weight is 12KG

https://www.dell.com/en-uk/work/shop...iplex-7460-aio


Look to be about the same price as an iMac to me.

OptiPlex 7460 All-in-One £939
21.5" iMac 2.3GHz Processor 1TB Storage £1049


yes I forgot we got them for about £750 each and with SSDs and 16GB of memory with an i7 .

Of course the Macs are only 21.5" compared to 24" .

I'm not sure how much bloatware they have as they'll just be reformated and the OS's added from scatch via a server.

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John Rumm February 21st 19 09:10 PM

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On 21/02/2019 15:05, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
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As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


windows XP


Don't be silly.


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John Rumm February 21st 19 09:12 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:

As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


What spec do you currently have?

What are you going to use it for?

What areas of performance in particular are you hoping to improve?

What is the budget?


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Martin Brown[_2_] February 21st 19 09:37 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 21/02/2019 21:12, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:

As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


How old is the system being replaced and what CPU/ram/disk does it have?

What spec do you currently have?

What are you going to use it for?

What areas of performance in particular are you hoping to improve?

What is the budget?


These days desktops are somewhat out of favour.
But capable ones can be had second hand refurbished for under £300.

If you want to do anything exotic like 4k video editing then you need to
say so. If it is just for word processing than almost anything will do.

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[email protected] February 21st 19 09:42 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:50:03 UTC, Broadback wrote:
As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


If it's just for general use, an ex-corporate Dell or HP from Microdream, Tier1online or Morgan. As they use an Authorised Refurbisher install of Win10 they don't have much bloatware.

SSD for the O/S drive and 8 GB RAM.

Owain


Bob Eager[_7_] February 21st 19 11:08 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:44:22 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Martin Brown
wrote:

On 21/02/2019 21:12, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:

As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


How old is the system being replaced and what CPU/ram/disk does it have?

What spec do you currently have?

What are you going to use it for?

What areas of performance in particular are you hoping to improve?

What is the budget?


These days desktops are somewhat out of favour.


Not here they're not.


Or here. We have six in use at home.

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Brian Gaff February 22nd 19 08:28 AM

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Yes I used Quiet PC for the same reasons.
It is more expensive as it needed to be quiet, but generally its been fine.
And use an ssd main drive.

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My current desktop PC came from P C Specialist:

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They built to my exact specification and the machine has proved entirely
reliable and satisfactory. I'd recommend them.




Brian Gaff February 22nd 19 08:32 AM

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Yes indeed but I'd not entertain any machine with less than 8 gig of ram, at
least a four core processor and a hard drive of 1tb in addition to the ssd
for the operating system.
It all does depend so much on needs these days.
Don't do what our council has and try to run their operation on Google
chrome books and then wonder why its crap!
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On 21/02/2019 21:12, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:

As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


How old is the system being replaced and what CPU/ram/disk does it have?

What spec do you currently have?

What are you going to use it for?

What areas of performance in particular are you hoping to improve?

What is the budget?


These days desktops are somewhat out of favour.
But capable ones can be had second hand refurbished for under £300.

If you want to do anything exotic like 4k video editing then you need to
say so. If it is just for word processing than almost anything will do.

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Regards,
Martin Brown




Martin Brown[_2_] February 22nd 19 08:57 AM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 21/02/2019 21:42, wrote:
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:50:03 UTC, Broadback wrote:
As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


If it's just for general use, an ex-corporate Dell or HP from
Microdream, Tier1online or Morgan. As they use an Authorised
Refurbisher install of Win10 they don't have much bloatware.


+1
Although there are some cheap and nasty ones there too.

SSD for the O/S drive and 8 GB RAM.


For a power user perhaps. Win10 now boots fast enough that only the most
impatient casual user will be inconvenienced and it will run OK in 4GB.

Obviously dedicated gamers would never be satisfied with Intel Graphics
but if you only want 2D graphics and limited 3D support a PC with no
graphics card then using the CPU built in capability uses a heck of a
lot less power than one with a dedicated gamers graphics card.

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Bob Eager[_7_] February 22nd 19 09:17 AM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 08:57:32 +0000, Martin Brown wrote:

On 21/02/2019 21:42, wrote:
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:50:03 UTC, Broadback wrote:
As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


If it's just for general use, an ex-corporate Dell or HP from
Microdream, Tier1online or Morgan. As they use an Authorised
Refurbisher install of Win10 they don't have much bloatware.


+1 Although there are some cheap and nasty ones there too.

SSD for the O/S drive and 8 GB RAM.


For a power user perhaps. Win10 now boots fast enough that only the most
impatient casual user will be inconvenienced and it will run OK in 4GB.

Obviously dedicated gamers would never be satisfied with Intel Graphics
but if you only want 2D graphics and limited 3D support a PC with no
graphics card then using the CPU built in capability uses a heck of a
lot less power than one with a dedicated gamers graphics card.


I agree. Not that I run Windows - it's FreeBSD here.

I ran quite happily with a 4 core CPU and 4GB (in 32 bit mode, so really
3.4GB). I now have several TB of disk (in RAID 1). I recently moved to 64
bit (finally!) and use 16GB. Most of the time I use about 5GB of that,
and the rest is on a swap-backed RAM disk which is used for everyday
large temporary files. The system rarely swaps.

I've not seen the need for an SSD as it boots really fast (but boots
rarely). The last time I rebooted was a couple of weeks ago, when we had
an extended power cut. Happy to have an SSD in the laptop, but otherwise
I see no need.



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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] February 22nd 19 10:05 AM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 22/02/2019 09:17, Bob Eager wrote:
I ran quite happily with a 4 core CPU and 4GB (in 32 bit mode, so really
3.4GB). I now have several TB of disk (in RAID 1). I recently moved to 64
bit (finally!) and use 16GB. Most of the time I use about 5GB of that,
and the rest is on a swap-backed RAM disk which is used for everyday
large temporary files. The system rarely swaps.

I've not seen the need for an SSD as it boots really fast (but boots
rarely). The last time I rebooted was a couple of weeks ago, when we had
an extended power cut. Happy to have an SSD in the laptop, but otherwise
I see no need.

My server is an early 64 bit ex XP machine of mid noughties vintage.

My desktop is a modern board with 8GB RAM and an SSD.

The ONLY two things that run faster on te desktop, once SSD/spinning
rust differences are accounted for, are real time games and video
processing.

If you dont do either an XP era machine should work fine - at least on
Linux.

No dounbt Windows has hooks to make it run like a dog on older hardware.


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2987fr February 22nd 19 10:09 AM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 22/02/2019 09:17, Bob Eager wrote:
I ran quite happily with a 4 core CPU and 4GB (in 32 bit mode, so really
3.4GB). I now have several TB of disk (in RAID 1). I recently moved to 64
bit (finally!) and use 16GB. Most of the time I use about 5GB of that,
and the rest is on a swap-backed RAM disk which is used for everyday
large temporary files. The system rarely swaps.

I've not seen the need for an SSD as it boots really fast (but boots
rarely). The last time I rebooted was a couple of weeks ago, when we had
an extended power cut. Happy to have an SSD in the laptop, but otherwise
I see no need.

My server is an early 64 bit ex XP machine of mid noughties vintage.

My desktop is a modern board with 8GB RAM and an SSD.

The ONLY two things that run faster on te desktop, once SSD/spinning rust
differences are accounted for, are real time games and video processing.

If you dont do either an XP era machine should work fine - at least on
Linux.

No dounbt Windows has hooks to make it run like a dog on older hardware.


Win10 runs fine on older hardware.


Robin February 22nd 19 10:45 AM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 22/02/2019 09:17, Bob Eager wrote:

snip

I've not seen the need for an SSD as it boots really fast (but boots
rarely). The last time I rebooted was a couple of weeks ago, when we had
an extended power cut. Happy to have an SSD in the laptop, but otherwise
I see no need.


if one wants a really quiet PC an SSD avoids even the little noise from
a quiet HDD on anti-vibration mounts
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Bob Eager[_7_] February 22nd 19 12:50 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 10:45:48 +0000, Robin wrote:

On 22/02/2019 09:17, Bob Eager wrote:

snip

I've not seen the need for an SSD as it boots really fast (but boots
rarely). The last time I rebooted was a couple of weeks ago, when we
had an extended power cut. Happy to have an SSD in the laptop, but
otherwise I see no need.


if one wants a really quiet PC an SSD avoids even the little noise from
a quiet HDD on anti-vibration mounts


Since all our desktops have at least 2 HDDs (and some have four) and they
are terabytes, not really an issue!



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Peeler[_3_] February 22nd 19 01:24 PM

More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rot Speed!
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 21:09:31 +1100, 2987fr, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote:

The ONLY two things that run faster on te desktop, once SSD/spinning rust
differences are accounted for, are real time games and video processing.

If you dont do either an XP era machine should work fine - at least on
Linux.

No dounbt Windows has hooks to make it run like a dog on older hardware.


Win10 runs fine on older hardware.


That's not the experience of many people. So, on HOW many older machines did
you test it yet, senile Mr Know-it-all? BG

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Martyn Barclay[_2_] February 22nd 19 04:30 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 09:17:36 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 08:57:32 +0000, Martin Brown wrote:

On 21/02/2019 21:42, wrote:
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:50:03 UTC, Broadback wrote:
As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed

If it's just for general use, an ex-corporate Dell or HP from
Microdream, Tier1online or Morgan. As they use an Authorised
Refurbisher install of Win10 they don't have much bloatware.


+1 Although there are some cheap and nasty ones there too.

SSD for the O/S drive and 8 GB RAM.


For a power user perhaps. Win10 now boots fast enough that only the most
impatient casual user will be inconvenienced and it will run OK in 4GB.

Obviously dedicated gamers would never be satisfied with Intel Graphics
but if you only want 2D graphics and limited 3D support a PC with no
graphics card then using the CPU built in capability uses a heck of a
lot less power than one with a dedicated gamers graphics card.


I agree. Not that I run Windows - it's FreeBSD here.

I ran quite happily with a 4 core CPU and 4GB (in 32 bit mode, so really
3.4GB). I now have several TB of disk (in RAID 1). I recently moved to 64
bit (finally!) and use 16GB. Most of the time I use about 5GB of that, and
the rest is on a swap-backed RAM disk which is used for everyday large
temporary files. The system rarely swaps.

I've not seen the need for an SSD as it boots really fast (but boots
rarely). The last time I rebooted was a couple of weeks ago, when we had
an extended power cut. Happy to have an SSD in the laptop, but otherwise I
see no need.


I had an HDD SATA drive go south on my main machine, & decided to install
an SDD in place of it. After copying Debian "Stretch" Linux on to it, I
rebooted & from the get-go it now boots in the KDE desktop in 9 seconds
flat. I am seriously thinking of changing the HDDs on my other machines.

CPU:AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core @ 4.00GHz, RAM:16GB Kingston HyperX Fury.



Martyn Barclay[_2_] February 22nd 19 04:34 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:08:57 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:44:22 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Martin Brown
wrote:

On 21/02/2019 21:12, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:

As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed

How old is the system being replaced and what CPU/ram/disk does it have?

What spec do you currently have?

What are you going to use it for?

What areas of performance in particular are you hoping to improve?

What is the budget?

These days desktops are somewhat out of favour.


Not here they're not.


Or here. We have six in use at home.


Or here. I have three desktops.

whisky-dave[_2_] February 22nd 19 04:50 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Friday, 22 February 2019 16:34:12 UTC, Martyn Barclay wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:08:57 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:44:22 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Martin Brown
wrote:

On 21/02/2019 21:12, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:

As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed

How old is the system being replaced and what CPU/ram/disk does it have?

What spec do you currently have?

What are you going to use it for?

What areas of performance in particular are you hoping to improve?

What is the budget?

These days desktops are somewhat out of favour.

Not here they're not.


Or here. We have six in use at home.


Or here. I have three desktops.


My new lab has 96 desktops each with a 2nd monitor.
These desktops being all-in-one don;lt need a box on the floor.

Where do others put their desktops ?


newshound February 22nd 19 05:48 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 22/02/2019 10:45, Robin wrote:
On 22/02/2019 09:17, Bob Eager wrote:

snip

I've not seen the need for an SSD as it boots really fast (but boots
rarely). The last time I rebooted was a couple of weeks ago, when we had
an extended power cut. Happy to have an SSD in the laptop, but otherwise
I see no need.


if one wants a really quiet PC an SSD avoids even the little noise from
a quiet HDD on anti-vibration mounts


It's the fan that is noisy on mine. I know you can go fanless (or water
cooled).

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] February 22nd 19 06:08 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 22/02/2019 16:30, Martyn Barclay wrote:
it now boots in the KDE desktop in 9 seconds
flat.


very similar here for linux Mint



The joke ius that once that has booted, windows XP in a 32 bit virtual
machine is about 7s second! Or faster if resiuming from a live image


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on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] February 22nd 19 06:10 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 22/02/2019 16:34, Martyn Barclay wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:08:57 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:44:22 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Martin Brown
wrote:

On 21/02/2019 21:12, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:

As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed

How old is the system being replaced and what CPU/ram/disk does it have?

What spec do you currently have?

What are you going to use it for?

What areas of performance in particular are you hoping to improve?

What is the budget?

These days desktops are somewhat out of favour.

Not here they're not.


Or here. We have six in use at home.


Or here. I have three desktops.

I am down to the one. Plus a laptop to watch videos and TV in bed
(bliss) . Plus a raspberry Pi to handle all my hifi needs. Plus a smart
phone to control the Pi

And a couple of smart TVs as well


And of course my weary old server.

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community, compassion, investment, security, housing...."
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"Jeremy Corbyn?"


The Natural Philosopher[_2_] February 22nd 19 06:10 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 22/02/2019 17:48, newshound wrote:
On 22/02/2019 10:45, Robin wrote:
On 22/02/2019 09:17, Bob Eager wrote:

snip

I've not seen the need for an SSD as it boots really fast (but boots
rarely). The last time I rebooted was a couple of weeks ago, when we had
an extended power cut. Happy to have an SSD in the laptop, but otherwise
I see no need.


if one wants a really quiet PC an SSD avoids even the little noise
from a quiet HDD on anti-vibration mounts


It's the fan that is noisy on mine. I know you can go fanless (or water
cooled).


try finding a fanless power supply


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community, compassion, investment, security, housing...."
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Andy Burns[_13_] February 22nd 19 06:27 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

try finding a fanless power supply


https://www.scan.co.uk/products/400w-seasonic-platinum-400-fanless-full-modular-80plus-platinum-single-rail-33a-fanless-atx-psu

A "little" more expensive ...

Rod Speed February 22nd 19 06:38 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 


"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 22 February 2019 16:34:12 UTC, Martyn Barclay wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:08:57 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:44:22 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Martin Brown
wrote:

On 21/02/2019 21:12, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:

As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed

How old is the system being replaced and what CPU/ram/disk does it
have?

What spec do you currently have?

What are you going to use it for?

What areas of performance in particular are you hoping to improve?

What is the budget?

These days desktops are somewhat out of favour.

Not here they're not.

Or here. We have six in use at home.


Or here. I have three desktops.


My new lab has 96 desktops each with a 2nd monitor.
These desktops being all-in-one don;lt need a box on the floor.

Where do others put their desktops ?


Mine sits on a table well back for the pair of tables the monitors
are on, still with no covers, as it was just after I assembled it.
The two previous desktops that are no long used are sitting
on the floor in tower cases next the armchair I compute from
with my feet up on a big ottoman type thing. I should get
off my arse and move the old desktops that are no longer
used and put the current desktop there, but there is such
a mega mess of cables under the tables the monitors
are mounted on that I can't be arsed to do that.


[email protected] February 22nd 19 08:10 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Friday, 22 February 2019 16:50:57 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
Where do others put their desktops ?


Mine's on the desk with the monitor on top.

Just like in the 1980s :-)

Owain


John Rumm February 22nd 19 09:54 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On 22/02/2019 16:50, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 22 February 2019 16:34:12 UTC, Martyn Barclay wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:08:57 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:44:22 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Martin Brown
wrote:

On 21/02/2019 21:12, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2019 14:49, Broadback wrote:

As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed

How old is the system being replaced and what CPU/ram/disk does it have?

What spec do you currently have?

What are you going to use it for?

What areas of performance in particular are you hoping to improve?

What is the budget?

These days desktops are somewhat out of favour.

Not here they're not.

Or here. We have six in use at home.


Or here. I have three desktops.


My new lab has 96 desktops each with a 2nd monitor.
These desktops being all-in-one don;lt need a box on the floor.

Where do others put their desktops ?


I have a rack of that wiggle wire shelving[1] sat in the corner of the
office. Bottom shelf takes a couple of 1kVA UPSs, and a pair of midi
tower base units. Next one up, supplementary network switch, external
drives, KVM switch etc. Next flatbed scanner, spare media etc. Next up
some more printers and scanners, and then top shelf, paper and a pile of
"stuff".

The the "healing" bench to my right for machines I am fixing etc, and
then I have a SFF box and screen setup as a copy station in the cubby
space of my built in office furnitu

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...iltInPlace.jpg



[1] That kind of stuff:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Light-Duty-...fsclp_pl_dp_10




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Peeler[_3_] February 22nd 19 09:58 PM

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 05:38:45 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

Where do others put their desktops ?


Mine sits on a table well back for the pair of tables the monitors


FLUSH the latest load of senile ****

Nobody asked YOU, poor senile idiot! LOL

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whisky-dave[_2_] February 25th 19 03:05 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Friday, 22 February 2019 17:48:57 UTC, newshound wrote:
On 22/02/2019 10:45, Robin wrote:
On 22/02/2019 09:17, Bob Eager wrote:

snip

I've not seen the need for an SSD as it boots really fast (but boots
rarely). The last time I rebooted was a couple of weeks ago, when we had
an extended power cut. Happy to have an SSD in the laptop, but otherwise
I see no need.


if one wants a really quiet PC an SSD avoids even the little noise from
a quiet HDD on anti-vibration mounts


It's the fan that is noisy on mine. I know you can go fanless (or water
cooled).


I can hardly hear my mac mini or my iMac fans they both have fans that spin slowly as the design is better as it just doesn't need brute force using cheap fans to cool it.



michael adams[_6_] February 25th 19 03:16 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...

I can hardly hear my mac mini or my iMac fans they both have fans that spin slowly
as the design is better as it just doesn't need brute force using cheap fans to cool
it.



Presumably the reverse must be true.

If they scaled up these better designed iMac fans (although its surprising
Dyson didn't get there first) then presumably they could make much more
efficient wind turbines. With a gentle breeze generating Gigawatts
of power.

So that everybody would be happy.



michael adams

....




abueloeddie[_2_] February 25th 19 03:52 PM

Time for a new desk top PC, recommendations please
 
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:50:03 UTC, Broadback wrote:
As the subject. any ideas will be welcomed


Buy an iMac . Initially expensive but today is the 9th Birthday of mine. not a perfect record but whenever it has gone wrong the local Apple shop has repaired it F.O.C. several times in the last 9 years

Previously running several PC / M/S machines They would fail catastrophically and cost £££ each time to repair or replace. An iMac starts each day in an instant and loads the apps instantly It's very different but you just have to look at the packaging to see that whatever you buy is good quality.


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