Anyone had the misfortune to purchase a Sensio Kai IP44 LED mirror?
(Toolstation)

I don't doubt the IP44 bit but the infra red sensor used as an on/off
device is crap!

Works fine if you happen to have a tungsten filament lead lamp to hand
but waving any part of your body near it achieves nothing.

Bit late to return it as I cut a large hole in the back to accept the
incoming mains feed.

3 wire plug in sensor. Is this likely to be available as a spare this
side of the world?

Alternatively could I replace it with a couple of fixed resistors and
shunt one with a pushbutton?

Take up smoking? Hang a small torch next to the mirror?
--
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb wrote:

Anyone had the misfortune to purchase a Sensio Kai IP44 LED mirror?
(Toolstation)

I don't doubt the IP44 bit but the infra red sensor used as an on/off
device is crap!

Works fine if you happen to have a tungsten filament lead lamp to hand
but waving any part of your body near it achieves nothing.

Bit late to return it as I cut a large hole in the back to accept the
incoming mains feed.

3 wire plug in sensor. Is this likely to be available as a spare this
side of the world?

Alternatively could I replace it with a couple of fixed resistors and
shunt one with a pushbutton?

Take up smoking? Hang a small torch next to the mirror?

Probably not applicable, but when I had a problem with a through-mirror
IR sensor it responded to thorough cleaning and degreasing of the mirror
over and a few inches around the sensor. I was surprised, which is why
I mention it.
--

Roger Hayter

In message , Roger Hayter
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:

Anyone had the misfortune to purchase a Sensio Kai IP44 LED mirror?
(Toolstation)

I don't doubt the IP44 bit but the infra red sensor used as an on/off
device is crap!

Works fine if you happen to have a tungsten filament lead lamp to hand
but waving any part of your body near it achieves nothing.

Bit late to return it as I cut a large hole in the back to accept the
incoming mains feed.

3 wire plug in sensor. Is this likely to be available as a spare this
side of the world?

Alternatively could I replace it with a couple of fixed resistors and
shunt one with a pushbutton?

Take up smoking? Hang a small torch next to the mirror?

Probably not applicable, but when I had a problem with a through-mirror
IR sensor it responded to thorough cleaning and degreasing of the mirror
over and a few inches around the sensor. I was surprised, which is why
I mention it.

This particular sensor is fitted to the lower edge of the casing and
glued (I think) into a threaded plastic bush. I plan to contact Tool
station tomorrow to see if they can offer any sort of fix.

Failing that I'll strip the cell out and have a careful check for
surplus glue etc. masking the face.

An LED torch does not trigger the cell. Claimed to be infra red so
perhaps it is!
--
Tim Lamb

In article ,
Tim Lamb writes:
Anyone had the misfortune to purchase a Sensio Kai IP44 LED mirror?
(Toolstation)

I don't doubt the IP44 bit but the infra red sensor used as an on/off
device is crap!

Works fine if you happen to have a tungsten filament lead lamp to hand
but waving any part of your body near it achieves nothing.

Bit late to return it as I cut a large hole in the back to accept the
incoming mains feed.

3 wire plug in sensor. Is this likely to be available as a spare this
side of the world?

Alternatively could I replace it with a couple of fixed resistors and
shunt one with a pushbutton?

Take up smoking? Hang a small torch next to the mirror?

Cutting a hole to route the cable through doesn't prevent you
taking back a product that doesn't work for repair or replacement
(providing that in itself didn't cause the breakage).

It only stops you taking back a product you decided you don't want.

--
Andrew Gabriel
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In message , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
Tim Lamb writes:
Anyone had the misfortune to purchase a Sensio Kai IP44 LED mirror?
(Toolstation)

I don't doubt the IP44 bit but the infra red sensor used as an on/off
device is crap!

Works fine if you happen to have a tungsten filament lead lamp to hand
but waving any part of your body near it achieves nothing.

Bit late to return it as I cut a large hole in the back to accept the
incoming mains feed.

3 wire plug in sensor. Is this likely to be available as a spare this
side of the world?

Alternatively could I replace it with a couple of fixed resistors and
shunt one with a pushbutton?

Take up smoking? Hang a small torch next to the mirror?

Cutting a hole to route the cable through doesn't prevent you
taking back a product that doesn't work for repair or replacement
(providing that in itself didn't cause the breakage).

It only stops you taking back a product you decided you don't want.

Yes. Confirmed by a call the Toolstation this morning. They marked the
order acknowledgement to allow a no charge exchange from my nearest
outlet with stock.
They also gave details of their supplier. Technical advice from them was
that mounting the sensor within 150mm of an object (particularly
something shiny) might lead to switching problems. Apparently, there
should have been a sticky label warning of this issue.

For aesthetic reasons, I had edged the mdf grooved wallboard specified
by the likely user with a white painted wooden strip. Not directly below
but certainly within 150mm.

The cure ...... tilt the sensor and secure with an agricultural quantity
of Stixall:-)

--
Tim Lamb