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Texecom decides to go green/save money
www.texe.com
will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. Printing hard copies of installation manuals and supplying with each individual product is extremely wasteful, increasingly expensive, damaging to the environment and, crucially, does not guarantee the latest information relating to digitally-enabled and remotely upgradable security products. Texecom installation manuals are always available and always up to date to professional security installers on our free TexecomPro app and on the Texecom website. Texecom has developed the TexecomPro app specifically to enhance and support professional installers who design, install and maintain Texecom security systems. Available free on iOS and Android, TexecomPro is the go-to resource for all Texecom technical information." See the clever use of the word crucially? So how does this post help DIYers? Well you just sign up as a professional installer and make up any company name you want for free online access to their manuals. They do not check any details (I am sure a reader will register with them to prove this). Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
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ARW writes: www.texe.com will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. Printing hard copies of installation manuals and supplying with each individual product is extremely wasteful, increasingly expensive, damaging to the environment and, crucially, does not guarantee the latest information relating to digitally-enabled and remotely upgradable security products. Texecom installation manuals are always available and always up to date to professional security installers on our free TexecomPro app and on the Texecom website. Texecom has developed the TexecomPro app specifically to enhance and support professional installers who design, install and maintain Texecom security systems. Available free on iOS and Android, TexecomPro is the go-to resource for all Texecom technical information." See the clever use of the word crucially? So how does this post help DIYers? Well you just sign up as a professional installer and make up any company name you want for free online access to their manuals. They do not check any details (I am sure a reader will register with them to prove this). Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. I bought one of their branded SLA batteries once (it was what the local wholesaler had). It had the shortest life of any SLA I've ever bought - just over 1 year on float at 13.8V without ever being run down. Haven't ever used their alarms. On the forum for the alarms I've installed, one of the professional installers asked why they make all the programming data and interface protocols available to the public, and shouldn't this be hidden? The answer from the company was that all the innovative ideas and suggestions they get for enhancements come from DIYers, and not the professional installers. A DIYer is using their installation, and tends to use most of the features which gives them good ideas for other things they would like it to do, which the company often implements. A professional installer is not using their installations and generally make use of rather few of the alarm's features. One of the first examples (20 years ago now) was the Homesafe sign in, where the alarm alerts the parents if the children haven't arrived back home from school by a certain time. This feature is configured by many DIY installers, but almost never by professional installers. (This feature has probably been overtaken by smartphone apps nowadays, but still shows how a DIY and a professional installation are likely to differ.) -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 13/01/2019 12:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , ARW writes: www.texe.com will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. Printing hard copies of installation manuals and supplying with each individual product is extremely wasteful, increasingly expensive, damaging to the environment and, crucially, does not guarantee the latest information relating to digitally-enabled and remotely upgradable security products. Texecom installation manuals are always available and always up to date to professional security installers on our free TexecomPro app and on the Texecom website. Texecom has developed the TexecomPro app specifically to enhance and support professional installers who design, install and maintain Texecom security systems. Available free on iOS and Android, TexecomPro is the go-to resource for all Texecom technical information." See the clever use of the word crucially? So how does this post help DIYers? Well you just sign up as a professional installer and make up any company name you want for free online access to their manuals. They do not check any details (I am sure a reader will register with them to prove this). Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. I bought one of their branded SLA batteries once (it was what the local wholesaler had). It had the shortest life of any SLA I've ever bought - just over 1 year on float at 13.8V without ever being run down. Haven't ever used their alarms. On the forum for the alarms I've installed, one of the professional installers asked why they make all the programming data and interface protocols available to the public, and shouldn't this be hidden? The answer from the company was that all the innovative ideas and suggestions they get for enhancements come from DIYers, and not the professional installers. A DIYer is using their installation, and tends to use most of the features which gives them good ideas for other things they would like it to do, which the company often implements. A professional installer is not using their installations and generally make use of rather few of the alarm's features. One of the first examples (20 years ago now) was the Homesafe sign in, where the alarm alerts the parents if the children haven't arrived back home from school by a certain time. This feature is configured by many DIY installers, but almost never by professional installers. (This feature has probably been overtaken by smartphone apps nowadays, but still shows how a DIY and a professional installation are likely to differ.) Most alarms I fit are on new builds and so are left as working with no input from me to the user. The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW
wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? Would there be any you would advise the customer against? If money was no object, what would you install at your own place? Cheers, T i m |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 13/01/2019 15:17, ARW wrote:
Most alarms I fit are on new builds and so are left as working with no input from me to the user. The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. I have only fitted my own alarm in the last fourty years. The last one I was paid for was in a bank in Walsall IIRC. It was a pig as to fit the shock/heat/lock sensor on the safe required drilling and tapping the safe door. They are bloody hard going. |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? Would there be any you would advise the customer against? If money was no object, what would you install at your own place? You wouldn't, you would get a monitored alarm fitted. |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? Would there be any you would advise the customer against? If money was no object, what would you install at your own place? Self guiding lasers that asked no questions. -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? I fit Texecom stuff. Usually the R8. -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:09:48 +0000, ARW
wrote: On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? I fit Texecom stuff. Usually the R8. Thanks Adam. Assuming it can take both, do you generally use wired and / or wireless sensors as I'm not sure about the 'security' of Wireless these days (thinking keyless cars etc)? Cheers, T i m |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 13/01/2019 20:35, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:09:48 +0000, ARW wrote: On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? I fit Texecom stuff. Usually the R8. Thanks Adam. Assuming it can take both, do you generally use wired and / or wireless sensors as I'm not sure about the 'security' of Wireless these days (thinking keyless cars etc)? Wired. -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 13/01/2019 10:50, ARW wrote:
www.texe.com will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. Printing hard copies of installation manuals and supplying with each individual product is extremely wasteful, increasingly expensive, damaging to the environment and, crucially, does not guarantee the latest information relating to digitally-enabled and remotely upgradable security products. Texecom installation manuals are always available and always up to date to professional security installers on our free TexecomPro app and on the Texecom website. Texecom has developed the TexecomPro app specifically to enhance and support professional installers who design, install and maintain Texecom security systems. Available free on iOS and Android, TexecomPro is the go-to resource for all Texecom technical information." See the clever use of the word crucially? So how does this post help DIYers? Well you just sign up as a professional installer and make up any company name you want for free online access to their manuals. They do not check any details (I am sure a reader will register with them to prove this). Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. Thank you for your email. In the past I have been able to download the instruction pdf files from their website. I hope this will be possible I am not really a fan of mobile phones. -- Michael Chare |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:02:42 +0000, ARW
wrote: snip I fit Texecom stuff. Usually the R8. Thanks Adam. Assuming it can take both, do you generally use wired and / or wireless sensors as I'm not sure about the 'security' of Wireless these days (thinking keyless cars etc)? Wired. Thanks. Cheers, T i m |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 13/01/2019 19:09, ARW wrote:
On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? I fit Texecom stuff. Usually the R8. That's helpful as I've been dithering about a wired alarm. But I was leaning towards one that offered a "follower" setting and can't see that in the R8 manual. Any recommendations please among those that do - eg Texecom's Premier range? -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote:
www.texe.com will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. Printing hard copies of installation manuals and supplying with each individual product is extremely wasteful, increasingly expensive, damaging to the environment and, crucially, does not guarantee the latest information relating to digitally-enabled and remotely upgradable security products. Texecom installation manuals are always available and always up to date to professional security installers on our free TexecomPro app and on the Texecom website. Texecom has developed the TexecomPro app specifically to enhance and support professional installers who design, install and maintain Texecom security systems. Available free on iOS and Android, TexecomPro is the go-to resource for all Texecom technical information." See the clever use of the word crucially? What's clever about it , I would have thought it was quite important to have the latest install guide for any product even an old one especailly if something has been updated or the original install guide had an error or wasn;t as good as it coukld be. So how does this post help DIYers? It tells them they no longer have to resister at their website but can get an app . Well you just sign up as a professional installer and make up any company name you want for free online access to their manuals. They do not check any details (I am sure a reader will register with them to prove this). Do you have to sign up claiming to be a professonal installer. Most apps yuo don't sign up for. You agree to T&Cs . Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On Monday, 14 January 2019 13:07:22 UTC, F wrote:
On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote: On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. So what's the problem ? From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. So what's the problem ? How would he email out something that doesn't appear to exist ? |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On Monday, 14 January 2019 15:41:55 UTC, JimK wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 13:07:22 UTC, F wrote: On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote: On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. So what's the problem ? From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. So what's the problem ? How would he email out something that doesn't appear to exist ? Time for a re-read.... and your conclusion ? |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 13:07:22 UTC, F wrote: On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote: On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. So what's the problem ? From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. So what's the problem ? How would he email out something that doesn't appear to exist ? Time for a re-read.... -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 15:41:55 UTC, JimK wrote: whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 13:07:22 UTC, F wrote: On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote: On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. So what's the problem ? From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. So what's the problem ? How would he email out something that doesn't appear to exist ? Time for a re-read.... and your conclusion ? You can't be arsed? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
In it something is. I agree with you, thanks for an explanation. As always all ingenious is simple.
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Texecom decides to go green/save money
On Tuesday, 15 January 2019 01:09:23 UTC, JimK wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 15:41:55 UTC, JimK wrote: whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 13:07:22 UTC, F wrote: On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote: On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. So what's the problem ? From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. So what's the problem ? How would he email out something that doesn't appear to exist ? Time for a re-read.... and your conclusion ? You can't be arsed? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ My arse has nothing to do with it. I'm asking why the DIY can't obtain the same info as the pro installer, unless only the pros get access to the app. or pros get extra info. With apps this depends on whether or not you pay for an in-app purchase and NOT whether you are a Pro, DIYer, judge or prostitute. |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 15 January 2019 01:09:23 UTC, JimK wrote: whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 15:41:55 UTC, JimK wrote: whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 13:07:22 UTC, F wrote: On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote: On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. So what's the problem ? From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. So what's the problem ? How would he email out something that doesn't appear to exist ? Time for a re-read.... and your conclusion ? You can't be arsed? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ My arse has nothing to do with it. I'm asking why the DIY can't obtain the same info as the pro installer, unless only the pros get access to the app. or pros get extra info. With apps this depends on whether or not you pay for an in-app purchase and NOT whether you are a Pro, DIYer, judge or prostitute. Funny that, you were wibbling about "photocopies" etc just a few trite messages ago... -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On Tuesday, 15 January 2019 12:02:00 UTC, JimK wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Tuesday, 15 January 2019 01:09:23 UTC, JimK wrote: whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 15:41:55 UTC, JimK wrote: whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 13:07:22 UTC, F wrote: On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote: On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. So what's the problem ? From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. So what's the problem ? How would he email out something that doesn't appear to exist ? Time for a re-read.... and your conclusion ? You can't be arsed? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ My arse has nothing to do with it. I'm asking why the DIY can't obtain the same info as the pro installer, unless only the pros get access to the app. or pros get extra info. With apps this depends on whether or not you pay for an in-app purchase and NOT whether you are a Pro, DIYer, judge or prostitute. Funny that, you were wibbling about "photocopies" etc just a few trite messages ago... Well I've no idea how pros got their info before, other than "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals" Is that what pros used or did they find another way to get the information ? |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 15/01/2019 12:21, whisky-dave wrote:
Well I've no idea how pros got their info before, other than "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals" Is that what pros used or did they find another way to get the information ? The printed installation manual used to come with the alarm. You cannot download installation manuals from Texecom unless you are a registered installer. So the average DIYer buying a Texecom panel would not be able to install the alarm. -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 14/01/2019 09:20, Robin wrote:
On 13/01/2019 19:09, ARW wrote: On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? I fit Texecom stuff. Usually the R8. That's helpful as I've been dithering about a wired alarm. But I was leaning towards one that offered a "follower" setting and can't see that in the R8 manual. Any recommendations please among those that do - eg Texecom's Premier range? By "follower" setting do you mean a zone that will sound the alarm immediately if that is the first zone that is activated but would otherwise not immediately sound the alarm if you have already activated another zone? eg zone one is the front door contact and zone 2 is the hall PIR and the keypad is in the hallway and you enter via the front door. Or am I completely missing the point? -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 14/01/2019 08:50, Brian Gaff wrote:
I wonder if they have thought this through. I can see what is going to happen now. All the installers will print them out and may even print two out one for them, and one for the customer, or at least in part.Then of course most crooks would be interested I'd imagine. It helps crooks in no way at all. -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 13/01/2019 21:37, Michael Chare wrote:
On 13/01/2019 10:50, ARW wrote: www.texe.com will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. Â*From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. Printing hard copies of installation manuals and supplying with each individual product is extremely wasteful, increasingly expensive, damaging to the environment and, crucially, does not guarantee the latest information relating to digitally-enabled and remotely upgradable security products. Texecom installation manuals are always available and always up to date to professional security installers on our free TexecomPro app and on the Texecom website. Texecom has developed the TexecomPro app specifically to enhance and support professional installers who design, install and maintain Texecom security systems. Available free on iOS and Android, TexecomPro is the go-to resource for all Texecom technical information." See the clever use of the word crucially? So how does this post help DIYers? Well you just sign up as a professional installer and make up any company name you want for free online access to their manuals. They do not check any details (I am sure a reader will register with them to prove this). Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. Thank you for your email. In the past I have been able to download the instruction pdf files from their website. I hope this will be possible I am not really a fan of mobile phones. In the above it says "Texecom installation manuals are always available and always up to date to professional security installers on our free TexecomPro app and on the Texecom website." -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 15/01/2019 01:09, Jim K.. wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 15:41:55 UTC, JimK wrote: whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 13:07:22 UTC, F wrote: On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote: On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. So what's the problem ? From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. So what's the problem ? How would he email out something that doesn't appear to exist ? Time for a re-read.... and your conclusion ? You can't be arsed? Can you stick a 2nd class stamp on an email? -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 15/01/2019 18:13, ARW wrote:
On 14/01/2019 09:20, Robin wrote: On 13/01/2019 19:09, ARW wrote: On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? I fit Texecom stuff. Usually the R8. That's helpful as I've been dithering about a wired alarm. But I was leaning towards one that offered a "follower" setting and can't see that in the R8 manual. Any recommendations please among those that do - eg Texecom's Premier range? By "follower" setting do you mean a zone that will sound the alarm immediately if that is the first zone that is activated but would otherwise not immediately sound the alarm if you have already activated another zone? eg zone one is the front door contact and zone 2 is the hall PIR and the keypad is in the hallway and you enter via the front door. Yes, that's it. Or am I completely missing the point? No, I think you've decoded my probably **** poor explanation of what I wanted. In mitigation, I've never owned or installed a proper alarm system. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 15/01/2019 20:37, Robin wrote:
On 15/01/2019 18:13, ARW wrote: On 14/01/2019 09:20, Robin wrote: On 13/01/2019 19:09, ARW wrote: On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? I fit Texecom stuff. Usually the R8. That's helpful as I've been dithering about a wired alarm. But I was leaning towards one that offered a "follower" setting and can't see that in the R8 manual. Any recommendations please among those that do - eg Texecom's Premier range? By "follower" setting do you mean a zone that will sound the alarm immediately if that is the first zone that is activated but would otherwise not immediately sound the alarm if you have already activated another zone? eg zone one is the front door contact and zone 2 is the hall PIR and the keypad is in the hallway and you enter via the front door. Yes, that's it. Or am I completely missing the point? No, I think you've decoded my probably **** poor explanation of what I wanted.Â* In mitigation, I've never owned or installed a proper alarm system. Well then that is the first thing I have got right this week and it is only Wednesday:-))) Texecom call that zone "inhibited entry". All the Veritas Panels do that. But always buy the R8 plus. You can have secondary key codes for cleaners/carers/electricians etc on the R8 plus and you can use EOL terminations.. -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 15/01/2019 21:06, ARW wrote:
On 15/01/2019 20:37, Robin wrote: On 15/01/2019 18:13, ARW wrote: On 14/01/2019 09:20, Robin wrote: On 13/01/2019 19:09, ARW wrote: On 13/01/2019 15:43, T i m wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:17:28 +0000, ARW wrote: snip The second biggest market I fit alarms for are for people who have just been burgled. Do you typically fit a particular brand / model under those circumstances and if so what? I fit Texecom stuff. Usually the R8. That's helpful as I've been dithering about a wired alarm. But I was leaning towards one that offered a "follower" setting and can't see that in the R8 manual. Any recommendations please among those that do - eg Texecom's Premier range? By "follower" setting do you mean a zone that will sound the alarm immediately if that is the first zone that is activated but would otherwise not immediately sound the alarm if you have already activated another zone? eg zone one is the front door contact and zone 2 is the hall PIR and the keypad is in the hallway and you enter via the front door. Yes, that's it. Or am I completely missing the point? No, I think you've decoded my probably **** poor explanation of what I wanted.Â* In mitigation, I've never owned or installed a proper alarm system. Well then that is the first thing I have got right this week and it is only Wednesday:-))) Oi! I'm too bloody old to cope with Dementia tests after dinner. Texecom call that zone "inhibited entry". All the Veritas Panels do that. But always buy the R8 plus. You can have secondary key codes for cleaners/carers/electricians etc on the R8 plus and you can use EOL terminations.. Ta. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:06:13 +0000, ARW
wrote: snip But always buy the R8 plus. You can have secondary key codes for cleaners/carers/electricians etc on the R8 plus and you can use EOL terminations.. Have you ever had to deal with a system with a GSM dialler OOI Adam and if so, what did you think? Cheers, T i m |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
ARW Wrote in message:
On 15/01/2019 01:09, Jim K.. wrote: whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 15:41:55 UTC, JimK wrote: whisky-dave Wrote in message: On Monday, 14 January 2019 13:07:22 UTC, F wrote: On 14/01/2019 13:04, whisky-dave wrote: On Sunday, 13 January 2019 10:50:45 UTC, ARW wrote: Of if you do not want to sign up then just email me with the Texecom manual you want and I'll email it to you. That's nice of yuo but if you get a request for 100s will you pay the cost of photocopying (which might be against copyright) and posting to everyone. Adam said he would *email* it out, not post out a copy. -- F will no longer be giving out paper copies of installation manuals with their alarms. That's not much use to a DIYer. So what's the problem ? From their email "Texecom is no longer supplying printed copies of installation manuals with Texecom electronic security products manufactured after Monday 21st January. So what's the problem ? How would he email out something that doesn't appear to exist ? Time for a re-read.... and your conclusion ? You can't be arsed? Can you stick a 2nd class stamp on an email? Course I will, you post it through & I'll send it on... ;-) -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
On 15/01/2019 21:52, T i m wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:06:13 +0000, ARW wrote: snip But always buy the R8 plus. You can have secondary key codes for cleaners/carers/electricians etc on the R8 plus and you can use EOL terminations.. Have you ever had to deal with a system with a GSM dialler OOI Adam and if so, what did you think? No experience. -- Adam |
Texecom decides to go green/save money
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says... On 18/01/2019 11:13, whisky-dave wrote: Did you have to be a registared installer in order to buy their system previousy. ? No. And you still will not have to be a registered user to but the panel. What do you have to butt the panel to? -- Terry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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