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I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

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On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

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On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

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Andy Bennet Wrote in message:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?


You might be on to something there...
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In article ,
Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

When I installeed CH in my last house - 1960s - I did try to find a 12v
pump so the we could cope during power cuts. No such luck

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Cheers
--
Clive

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On 02/01/2019 14:03, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Does that have enough power for the AC CH Pump?

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On 02/01/2019 14:10, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:03, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Does that have enough power for the AC CH Pump?

Not by a very long chalk.

Cheers
--
Clive

Gas boilers
 

Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?
Mine does and a UPS but possibly not the norm for a non DIY person to
take sensible precautions against inconvenience.

Gas boilers
 

On 02/01/2019 14:14, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:10, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:03, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Does that have enough power for the AC CH Pump?

Not by a very long chalk.

So not a lot of use in a power cut then?

Gas boilers
 

On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Some of us do though my CH is oil. You could also use a redundant UPS
for the modest load that the CH pump, burner and controller represent.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

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On 02/01/2019 14:18, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:14, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:10, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:03, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power
cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas
powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Does that have enough power for the AC CH Pump?

Not by a very long chalk.

So not a lot of use in a power cut then?

None whatsoever.

Cheers
--
Clive

Gas boilers
 

On 02/01/2019 14:21, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:18, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:14, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:10, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:03, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power
cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas
powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Does that have enough power for the AC CH Pump?

Not by a very long chalk.

So not a lot of use in a power cut then?

None whatsoever.

hmmmm

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On 02/01/2019 14:22, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:21, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:18, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:14, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:10, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:03, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a
power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas
powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Does that have enough power for the AC CH Pump?

Not by a very long chalk.

So not a lot of use in a power cut then?

None whatsoever.

hmmmm

But very useful after a gas cut.

Cheers
--
Clive

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On 02/01/2019 14:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:22, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:21, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:18, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:14, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:10, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 14:03, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a
power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas
powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Does that have enough power for the AC CH Pump?

Not by a very long chalk.

So not a lot of use in a power cut then?

None whatsoever.

hmmmm

But very useful after a gas cut.

Couldn't you use a match - far cheaper?

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This thread has all the appearance of PHucker at work.

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After serious thinking Bob Minchin wrote :
Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?
Mine does and a UPS but possibly not the norm for a non DIY person to take
sensible precautions against inconvenience.

I have the boiler, cooker and micro, which needs electric. The hob
works without, if I use a match and a gas fire with no need for
electric. In the drive I have the caravan to fall back on in the drive,
it can use its own gas for heat, battery to ignite and blow. It has a
gas cooker and hob, battery ignition, battery lights. Three way fridge
freezer. So that is my final backup option, for an extended power loss.

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On 02/01/2019 15:28, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
After serious thinking Bob Minchin wrote :
Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?
Mine does and a UPS but possibly not the norm for a non DIY person to
take sensible precautions against inconvenience.

I have the boiler, cooker and micro, which needs electric. The hob works
without, if I use a match and a gas fire with no need for electric. In
the drive I have the caravan to fall back on in the drive, it can use
its own gas for heat, battery to ignite and blow. It has a gas cooker
and hob, battery ignition, battery lights. Three way fridge freezer. So
that is my final backup option, for an extended power loss.

We have an EV. Always keep it fully charged in the winter months. If we
do get an extended power cut in extreme whether we can go and sit in the
EV and use the heater to keep us warm, and have hot soup. 40kWh goes a
long way!

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charles wrote:

When I installeed CH in my last house - 1960s - I did try to find a 12v
pump so the we could cope during power cuts. No such luck

You might have had some joy at a chandlers, but your wallet would be
bruised.

Gas boilers
 

In article ,
Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

If they want to keep warm. I have one now.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:
charles wrote:

When I installeed CH in my last house - 1960s - I did try to find a 12v
pump so the we could cope during power cuts. No such luck

You might have had some joy at a chandlers, but your wallet would be
bruised.

don't live that near the sea.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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On 02/01/2019 14:03, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Cheers

:-)

Not sure mine has. The old one that I took out had two thermistors and
an expansion bulb device for the final overtemperature trip.

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On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 13:59:05 UTC, Andy Bennet wrote:
You can power those from a small generator.
So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Many do - it's called a car. Connect an inverter and you have a handy standby power supply.

Owain

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On 02/01/2019 14:03, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Not IME

Cheers


--
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Clive Arthur wrote:

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Not IME

Think thermocouple?

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On 02/01/2019 17:13, Andy Burns wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Clive Arthur wrote:

Most domestic gas boilers include a low power DC generator.

Not IME

Think thermocouple?
Ah...I guess that just about counts

I thought they used bimetallic strips


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On 02/01/2019 13:58, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?

No, not *all* - probably the name number as all-electric houses which
have a *large* generator.
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Roger
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On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

A pure sine wave inverter at my parents house.

And it has just enough juice to power a travel kettle.

--
Adam

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On 02/01/2019 15:27, GB wrote:
This thread has all the appearance of PHucker at work.


If it is then he is getting good.

--
Adam

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In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

A pure sine wave inverter at my parents house.

And it has just enough juice to power a travel kettle.

I have a gas ring for that. Mind you, we have to boil water in a saucepan,
though.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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On 02/01/2019 18:38, charles wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

A pure sine wave inverter at my parents house.

And it has just enough juice to power a travel kettle.

I have a gas ring for that. Mind you, we have to boil water in a saucepan,
though.


Does the gas ring also power the modem, computer and a few table lamps?

--
Adam

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It happens that charles formulated :
You might have had some joy at a chandlers, but your wallet would be
bruised.

don't live that near the sea.

They also have chandlers, close to busy rivers and canals, canal
basins.

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Bob Minchin Wrote in message:
Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?
Mine does and a UPS but possibly not the norm for a non DIY person to
take sensible precautions against inconvenience.


Just how many times have these wonderful arrangements had a chance
to earn their keep? (And for what durations?)
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In article , ARW
wrote:
On 02/01/2019 18:38, charles wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power
cut. Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas
powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

A pure sine wave inverter at my parents house.

And it has just enough juice to power a travel kettle.

I have a gas ring for that. Mind you, we have to boil water in a
saucepan, though.


Does the gas ring also power the modem, computer and a few table lamps?

No. I have a UPS on my modem and another one for this computer. I have a
laptop with a 6 hour battery, I also have small generator and plenty of
flashlights (for our US readers) and candles.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
Bob Minchin Wrote in message:
Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?
Mine does and a UPS but possibly not the norm for a non DIY person to
take sensible precautions against inconvenience.


Just how many times have these wonderful arrangements had a chance
to earn their keep? (And for what durations?)

last year we had 3 interruptions to our suppply of about an hours' duration
each. Unlike the one 4 years ago where we lost power about 1pm. A 60KVA
generator was provided at 2am.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
It happens that charles formulated :
You might have had some joy at a chandlers, but your wallet would be
bruised.

don't live that near the sea.

They also have chandlers, close to busy rivers and canals, canal
basins.

Our nearest chandler is in Shaftesbury Avenue, London.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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charles Wrote in message:
In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
Bob Minchin Wrote in message:
Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?
Mine does and a UPS but possibly not the norm for a non DIY person to
take sensible precautions against inconvenience.


Just how many times have these wonderful arrangements had a chance
to earn their keep? (And for what durations?)

last year we had 3 interruptions to our suppply of about an hours' duration
each. Unlike the one 4 years ago where we lost power about 1pm. A 60KVA
generator was provided at 2am.


3 X 1hr ? Pfft!
Were any of these 4 planned/notified?
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charles Wrote in message:
In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
It happens that charles formulated :
You might have had some joy at a chandlers, but your wallet would be
bruised.

don't live that near the sea.

They also have chandlers, close to busy rivers and canals, canal
basins.

Our nearest chandler is in Shaftesbury Avenue, London.


Having moved from the River Fleet...
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On 2019-01-02 14:01:19 +0000, charles said:

In article ,
Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

When I installeed CH in my last house - 1960s - I did try to find a 12v
pump so the we could cope during power cuts. No such luck

During the 3 day week power cuts in 1974 I recall my father rigging up
a generator to power the boiler - think he used a car battery to power
it.

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Jim K.. wrote:
Bob Minchin Wrote in message:
Andy Bennet wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:54, GB wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:47, Andy Bennet wrote:
I've been told that my electric boiler is useless during a power cut.
Are Gas boiler C.H. pumps, timer and control electronics gas powered?

You can power those from a small generator.

So all houses with a gas boiler have a small generator?
Mine does and a UPS but possibly not the norm for a non DIY person to
take sensible precautions against inconvenience.


Just how many times have these wonderful arrangements had a chance
to earn their keep? (And for what durations?)

We had 7 days without power in late autumn 1987 and a 6 month old baby
at the time. A borrowed genny was a lifesaver then. Since then, I've
taken precautions!