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Colin Waldron November 6th 18 02:30 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
I am hoping that someone is in a position to assist please.

My shower, installed 2001, has come to the end of its life, been taken out and dumped and I am trying to find a direct replacement that can be installed with the minimum of disruption.

I have two challenges:-
1) the recommended replacement shower, and Aquilisa Aquastream Thermo which I have purchased is not 240v and is Low voltage. To install this would mean destroying bathroom tiling and finding a suitable fixing point for the transformer in the wall void then redecorating.
2) the Hot and cold feed are transversed in the old installation compared to the replacement which again necessitated stripping plumbing back and rebuilding with major decorative consequences.

Has anyone come across this problem before and found a like for like replacement without major works?

Colin

Tim+[_5_] November 6th 18 03:52 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 06:30:46 -0800 (PST), Colin Waldron
wrote:

I am hoping that someone is in a position to assist please.

My shower, installed 2001, has come to the end of its life, been taken
out and dumped and I am trying to find a direct replacement that can be
installed with the minimum of disruption.

I have two challenges:-
1) the recommended replacement shower, and Aquilisa Aquastream Thermo
which I have purchased is not 240v and is Low voltage. To install this
would mean destroying bathroom tiling and finding a suitable fixing
point for the transformer in the wall void then redecorating.
2) the Hot and cold feed are transversed in the old installation
compared to the replacement which again necessitated stripping plumbing
back and rebuilding with major decorative consequences.

Has anyone come across this problem before and found a like for like
replacement without major works?

Colin


Have you seen this? https://new-team-showers.co.uk/ I assume it's up
to date. It says:

"New Team Electric Showers

The New Team electric showers have recently been updated and replaced
by the fantastic newly designed Joy collection of electric showers,
delivering a stunning contemporary design in a choice of white or
black with a contemporary chrome riser rail set.

These Joy showers are a direct replacement for the old Newteam models
with the plumbing inlets and electric connections in exactly the same
place. There is a slight difference in the dimensions of the unit wih
the new Joy models being very slightly smaller by 3mm in width and
10mm in height.

Simply select your desired electric shower above to see these new
models, choose from our 8.5Kw, 9.5kW or 10.5Kw models."

and

"Call Us Mon - Fri 9:00 am - 5:00 pm 0843 658 0062 or 01342 321121"


I think those are electrically heated shower units, not €śpower showers€ť. I
think the OP is pumping water from a HW tank. Stupidly confusing
terminology.

Tim

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Brian Reay[_6_] November 6th 18 05:46 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
On 06/11/2018 15:52, Tim+ wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 06:30:46 -0800 (PST), Colin Waldron
wrote:

I am hoping that someone is in a position to assist please.

My shower, installed 2001, has come to the end of its life, been taken
out and dumped and I am trying to find a direct replacement that can be
installed with the minimum of disruption.

I have two challenges:-
1) the recommended replacement shower, and Aquilisa Aquastream Thermo
which I have purchased is not 240v and is Low voltage. To install this
would mean destroying bathroom tiling and finding a suitable fixing
point for the transformer in the wall void then redecorating.
2) the Hot and cold feed are transversed in the old installation
compared to the replacement which again necessitated stripping plumbing
back and rebuilding with major decorative consequences.

Has anyone come across this problem before and found a like for like
replacement without major works?

Colin


Have you seen this? https://new-team-showers.co.uk/ I assume it's up
to date. It says:

"New Team Electric Showers

The New Team electric showers have recently been updated and replaced
by the fantastic newly designed Joy collection of electric showers,
delivering a stunning contemporary design in a choice of white or
black with a contemporary chrome riser rail set.

These Joy showers are a direct replacement for the old Newteam models
with the plumbing inlets and electric connections in exactly the same
place. There is a slight difference in the dimensions of the unit wih
the new Joy models being very slightly smaller by 3mm in width and
10mm in height.

Simply select your desired electric shower above to see these new
models, choose from our 8.5Kw, 9.5kW or 10.5Kw models."

and

"Call Us Mon - Fri 9:00 am - 5:00 pm 0843 658 0062 or 01342 321121"


I think those are electrically heated shower units, not €śpower showers€ť. I
think the OP is pumping water from a HW tank. Stupidly confusing
terminology.

Tim


Which bit do you need?

I have an unused NewTeam pump and some other bits but not the mixer
lurking.

It was bought for a previous house and never installed.

From memory, there is the pump (dual ended, hot and cold), and some
valves/sensors that go inline to sense the flow to turn it on.

It is designed to fit in a cupboard, under a bath etc.



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Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 18 05:51 PM

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Which bit do you need?

I have an unused NewTeam pump and some other bits but not the mixer
lurking.

It was bought for a previous house and never installed.

you should have got a man in .....



[email protected] November 6th 18 07:20 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
On Tuesday, 6 November 2018 14:30:49 UTC, Colin Waldron wrote:
I am hoping that someone is in a position to assist please.

My shower, installed 2001, has come to the end of its life, been taken out and dumped and I am trying to find a direct replacement that can be installed with the minimum of disruption.

I have two challenges:-
1) the recommended replacement shower, and Aquilisa Aquastream Thermo which I have purchased is not 240v and is Low voltage. To install this would mean destroying bathroom tiling and finding a suitable fixing point for the transformer in the wall void then redecorating.
2) the Hot and cold feed are transversed in the old installation compared to the replacement which again necessitated stripping plumbing back and rebuilding with major decorative consequences.

Has anyone come across this problem before and found a like for like replacement without major works?

Colin


why did you buy it then?

Chris B[_2_] November 6th 18 10:10 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
On 06/11/2018 14:30, Colin Waldron wrote:
I am hoping that someone is in a position to assist please.

My shower, installed 2001, has come to the end of its life, been taken out and dumped and I am trying to find a direct replacement that can be installed with the minimum of disruption.

I have two challenges:-
1) the recommended replacement shower, and Aquilisa Aquastream Thermo which I have purchased is not 240v and is Low voltage. To install this would mean destroying bathroom tiling and finding a suitable fixing point for the transformer in the wall void then redecorating.
2) the Hot and cold feed are transversed in the old installation compared to the replacement which again necessitated stripping plumbing back and rebuilding with major decorative consequences.

Has anyone come across this problem before and found a like for like replacement without major works?

Colin

I have had power showers for some time and my goto place is the shower
doctor.

Have you had a look at the FAQs at the bottom of this page

https://www.showerdoc.com/newteam-20...-shower-spares

(Spoiler -

I see that many of the spares for this unit are no longer available so
is there a drop-in replacement for this unit i.e. no need to move pipes,
wires or mounting holes?
Asked 254 days ago by Chris Brawn
There is no direct replacement for this shower , but , the ones shown to
the right in the link are the best.

http://www.showerdoc.com/newteam-201...-shower-spares

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Roger Hayter[_2_] November 7th 18 10:52 AM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
Colin Waldron wrote:

I am hoping that someone is in a position to assist please.

My shower, installed 2001, has come to the end of its life, been taken out
and dumped and I am trying to find a direct replacement that can be
installed with the minimum of disruption.

I have two challenges:- 1) the recommended replacement shower, and
Aquilisa Aquastream Thermo which I have purchased is not 240v and is Low
voltage. To install this would mean destroying bathroom tiling and finding
a suitable fixing point for the transformer in the wall void then
redecorating.

Can't you use the existing mains wiring to deliver the ELV? And put the
transformer anywhere within about 20ft of the shower as the cables run.


2) the Hot and cold feed are transversed in the old installation compared
to the replacement which again necessitated stripping plumbing back and
rebuilding with major decorative consequences.


Equally, the two pipes can be swapped over somewhere else. You might
need to bypass either or both if there are branches to elsewhere (and
you are not really supposed to have dead end pipes - but if they can be
shortened to near the bathroom it may be alright).

Has anyone come across this problem before and found a like for like
replacement without major works?

Colin



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Andy Burns[_13_] November 7th 18 11:05 AM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
Roger Hayter wrote:

Colin Waldron wrote:

Aquilisa Aquastream Thermo which I have purchased is not 240v and is Low
voltage.


I couldn't see any install instructions (or even evidence they sell such
things) on the aqualisa website ... got an exact model number?

Can't you use the existing mains wiring to deliver the ELV?


I'm imagining bus bars as thick as my thumb to power a low-voltage
shower ...

Chris B[_2_] November 7th 18 11:32 AM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
On 07/11/2018 11:05, Andy Burns wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote:

Colin Waldron wrote:

Aquilisa Aquastream Thermo which I have purchased is not 240v and is Low
voltage.


I couldn't see any install instructions (or even evidence they sell such
things) on the aqualisa website ... got an exact model number?

Can't you use the existing mains wiring to deliver the ELV?


I'm imagining bus bars as thick as my thumb to power a low-voltage
shower ...


No they only need to power the pump. Separately heated hot and cold
water will be delivered to the unit....

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Andy Burns[_13_] November 7th 18 11:47 AM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
Chris B wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

I'm imagining bus bars as thick as my thumb to power a low-voltage
shower ...


No they only need to power the pump. Separately heated hot and cold
water will be delivered to the unit....


Ah, thought it was an electric shower ...


Keith[_25_] January 26th 21 02:45 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
Did you find a replacement shower. I have a complete one still in box unused.

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Harry Bloomfield, Esq.[_2_] January 26th 21 02:48 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
Keith explained :
Did you find a replacement shower. I have a complete one still in box
unused.


I would hope so or he would be pretty smelly by now - he posted the
question over two years ago.

Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) January 27th 21 11:05 AM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
I don't get this, if I follow the link it clearly says when it was posted,
is it invisible to the sighted?
Brian

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Keith explained :
Did you find a replacement shower. I have a complete one still in box
unused.


I would hope so or he would be pretty smelly by now - he posted the
question over two years ago.




Harry Bloomfield, Esq.[_2_] January 27th 21 04:47 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
on 27/01/2021, Brian Gaff (Sofa) supposed :
I don't get this, if I follow the link it clearly says when it was posted, is
it invisible to the sighted?
Brian


It would seem to be invisible, perhaps it's the gaudy colours used on
the site which blinds their site users?

Tim+[_5_] January 27th 21 06:36 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
Do I need to explain it to you *again* Brian?

Tim

Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:
I don't get this, if I follow the link it clearly says when it was posted,
is it invisible to the sighted?
Brian




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Graham W[_2_] February 5th 21 02:01 PM

Replacing a Newteam 201 Power Shower
 
Keith, I'd be interested in this if it's still available

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