https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tWF4QCR8U4

On 31/10/2018 07:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tWF4QCR8U4



That guys voice annoys the fick out of me.
It's all dead technology anyway, no camshaft in an EV!

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On 31/10/2018 07:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tWF4QCR8U4



That guys voice annoys the fick out of me.
It's all dead technology anyway, no camshaft in an EV!


Scotty is brilliant and holds all the same views on cars as myself ......

On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
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On 31/10/2018 07:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tWF4QCR8U4



That guys voice annoys the fick out of me.
It's all dead technology anyway, no camshaft in an EV!


Scotty is brilliant and holds all the same views on cars as myself ......

Do you shout as much as 'Scotty' and speak in such a unpleasant way as
well as holding the same opinions?

Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see video
and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to whether
its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them have just been
silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing and whooping but
little in the way of explanation at all.
Brian

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tWF4QCR8U4

....just listen to his videos ....


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That bad eh?
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...just listen to his videos ....


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Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to
whether its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them
have just been silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing
and whooping but little in the way of explanation at all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tWF4QCR8U4

On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

...just listen to his videos ....
If you think its worth our time to watch it, at least go to the effort
of posting some clue what its about.


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John Rumm wrote:
On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

...just listen to his videos ....
If you think its worth our time to watch it, at least go to the effort
of posting some clue what its about.



+1.

Annoys the f*ck out of me when folk post links on Usenet with absolutely no
description.

Tim

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Tim+ wrote:
John Rumm wrote:
On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

...just listen to his videos ....
If you think its worth our time to watch it, at least go to the effort
of posting some clue what its about.



+1.

Annoys the f*ck out of me when folk post links on Usenet with absolutely no
description.

Best to simply ignore them. The vast majority have nothing to do with DIY.

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On Wednesday, 31 October 2018 10:54:20 UTC, Tim+ wrote:
John Rumm wrote:
On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

...just listen to his videos ....
If you think its worth our time to watch it, at least go to the effort
of posting some clue what its about.

+1.

Annoys the f*ck out of me when folk post links on Usenet with absolutely no
description.

Tim

I just don't click em. I'm sure most don't.

I presume it's Scotty Kilmer. Often useful info, though his presentation style is a bit, dunno, aimed at the kids.


NT

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John Rumm wrote:
On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

...just listen to his videos ....
If you think its worth our time to watch it, at least go to the effort
of posting some clue what its about.



+1.

Annoys the f*ck out of me when folk post links on Usenet with absolutely
no
description.

Tim

it's about timing chains...read the subject......

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 10:54:17 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

John Rumm wrote:
On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

...just listen to his videos ....
If you think its worth our time to watch it, at least go to the effort
of posting some clue what its about.



+1.

Annoys the f*ck out of me when folk post links on Usenet with absolutely
no description.

Tim

Just don't follow them. After all, let's be brutally honest with each
other here. When has a plain URL posted into a usenet group ever been
worth the time to follow ?

your loss

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 10:54:17 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

John Rumm wrote:
On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

...just listen to his videos ....
If you think its worth our time to watch it, at least go to the effort
of posting some clue what its about.



+1.

Annoys the f*ck out of me when folk post links on Usenet with absolutely
no description.

Tim

Just don't follow them. After all, let's be brutally honest with each
other here. When has a plain URL posted into a usenet group ever been
worth the time to follow ?

That one was.

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o.uk...
On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

...just listen to his videos ....
If you think its worth our time to watch it, at least go to the effort of
posting some clue what its about.


it's about timing chains.......read the subject

On 31/10/2018 12:18, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
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On 31/10/2018 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

...just listen to his videos ....
If you think its worth our time to watch it, at least go to the effort of
posting some clue what its about.


it's about timing chains.......read the subject

How does that help, it does not mention timing chains?


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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to
whether its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them have
just been silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing and
whooping but little in the way of explanation at all.

He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and a
toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the two
mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet open
while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway stills shots of
specific engines.

On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 9:06:48 AM UTC, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
news
Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to
whether its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them have
just been silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing and
whooping but little in the way of explanation at all.

He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and a
toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the two
mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet open
while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway stills shots of
specific engines.

Statistically, 99% of YouTube 'instructional' videos are 99% padding.

If it takes 30 seconds to show me how to adjust the flange bracket on a widget, show me it FFS, don't give me 5 minutes of preamble on the history of widget flange brackets and views of it from all angles using a ShakyCam, overlaid with a voiceover that would induce narcolepsy in a caffeine-ridden toddler with ADHD syndrome.

On 31/10/2018 10:04, Halmyre wrote:
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 9:06:48 AM UTC, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
news
Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to
whether its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them have
just been silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing and
whooping but little in the way of explanation at all.

He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and a
toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the two
mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet open
while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway stills shots of
specific engines.

Statistically, 99% of YouTube 'instructional' videos are 99% padding.

If it takes 30 seconds to show me how to adjust the flange bracket on a widget, show me it FFS, don't give me 5 minutes of preamble on the history of widget flange brackets and views of it from all angles using a ShakyCam, overlaid with a voiceover that would induce narcolepsy in a caffeine-ridden toddler with ADHD syndrome.

The best ones are thsoe that do a slow mo of one screw showing the
screwdriver, and then fast forward through the other ten screws before
showing you how to carefully split te case from its internal
clippage...etc.


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"Halmyre" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 9:06:48 AM UTC, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
news
Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to
whether its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them
have
just been silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing and
whooping but little in the way of explanation at all.

He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and a
toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the two
mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet open
while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway stills shots
of
specific engines.

Statistically, 99% of YouTube 'instructional' videos are 99% padding.

If it takes 30 seconds to show me how to adjust the flange bracket on a
widget, show me it FFS, don't give me 5 minutes of preamble on the history
of widget flange brackets and views of it from all angles using a ShakyCam,
overlaid with a voiceover that .would induce narcolepsy in a
caffeine-ridden toddler with ADHD syndrome.

scotty is always to the point .....

"NY" wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to
whether its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them
have just been silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing
and whooping but little in the way of explanation at all.

He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and a
toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the two
mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet open
while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway stills shots
of specific engines.

the info is excelent and accurate ........other than some voxwagens still
use gears ....

In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and
a toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the
two mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet
open while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway
stills shots of specific engines.

the info is excelent and accurate ........other than some voxwagens
still use gears ....

You don't know much about cars, then? Some do or did have gear driven
cams. But not common ones these days, if any. That is either chain or
belt. And neither uses gears.

Chains are driven by sprockets. So are toothed belts.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and
a toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the
two mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet
open while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway
stills shots of specific engines.

the info is excelent and accurate ........other than some voxwagens
still use gears ....

You don't know much about cars, then? Some do or did have gear driven
cams. But not common ones these days, if any. That is either chain or
belt. And neither uses gears.

Chains are driven by sprockets. So are toothed belts.

why you just repeating things? ...

"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:33:03 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You don't know much about cars, then? Some do or did have gear driven
cams

The Granada 2.xL from the 70s/80s ?

no

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"NY" wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to
whether its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them
have just been silent or just contained sound effects and people
swearing and whooping but little in the way of explanation at all.

He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and a
toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the two
mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet open
while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway stills shots
of specific engines.

the info is excelent and accurate ........other than some voxwagens still
use gears ....

sorry volkswagen

On 31/10/2018 09:06, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as
to whether its worth* using my time and starting it. All so many of
them have just been silent or just contained sound effects and people
swearing and whooping but little in the way of explanation at all.

He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and a
toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the two
mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet open
while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway stills shots
of specific engines.

Obviously he has never owned a car where the chain tensioner was the
weakest link.

Small engines now have belts that run in the oil to reduce friction.

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On 31/10/2018 19:37, alan_m wrote:
On 31/10/2018 09:06, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
news
Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as
to whether its worthÂ* using my time and starting it. All so many of
them have just been silent or just contained sound effects and people
swearing and whooping but little in the way of explanation at all.

He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and
a toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the
two mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet
open while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway
stills shots of specific engines.

Obviously he has never owned a car where the chain tensioner was the
weakest link.

Small engines now have belts that run in the oil to reduce friction.

What friction would that be?

Ive built many geraboxes with timing belts and none has ever had
'friction' that would be reduced by oil.

Chains or gears yes, belts no.


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On 31/10/2018 20:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Ive built many geraboxes with timing belts and none has ever had
'friction' that would be reduced by oil.

Chains or gears yes, belts no.


Ford presentation:
https://youtu.be/-2xm0UBH3nI?t=49


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On Wednesday, 31 October 2018 20:19:07 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 31/10/2018 19:37, alan_m wrote:
On 31/10/2018 09:06, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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He's holding up two gears and a chain, and then two toothed wheels and
a toothed belt, and talking about the strengths and weaknesses of the
two mechanisms. He's mostly standing in front of a car with its bonnet
open while he's giving his presentation, with occasional cutaway
stills shots of specific engines.

Obviously he has never owned a car where the chain tensioner was the
weakest link.

IMLE with chain tensioner failure, they do at least still run. Belt failure is more major, often trashing the engine.

Small engines now have belts that run in the oil to reduce friction.

What friction would that be?

Ive built many geraboxes with timing belts and none has ever had
'friction' that would be reduced by oil.

Chains or gears yes, belts no.

I'm guessing oil would reduce rubber deterioration by reducing access by oxygen. The power loss of a toothed belt happens in the belt, not something oil would change afaik.


NT

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"Brian Gaff" wrote:

Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see video
and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to whether
its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them have just been
silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing and whooping but
little in the way of explanation at all.
Brian

I thought you were referring not to the video itself, but to the way
some people (hullo, Jum, ye Scotch git!) just post a gnomic Subject
line, followed by a single line in the body -- the youtube link.

Jum's no the only wan!

John

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In article ,
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video
and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to whether
its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them have just
been
silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing and whooping
but
little in the way of explanation at all.
Brian

I thought you were referring not to the video itself, but to the way
some people (hullo, Jum, ye Scotch git!) just post a gnomic Subject
line, followed by a single line in the body -- the youtube link.

Jum's no the only wan!

John

umurni

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"Another John" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

Why do people persist in being so obtuse on the videeos, I cannot see
video
and would really appreciate just a one sentence description as to
whether
its worth using my time and starting it. All so many of them have just
been
silent or just contained sound effects and people swearing and whooping
but
little in the way of explanation at all.
Brian

I thought you were referring not to the video itself, but to the way
some people (hullo, Jum, ye Scotch git!) just post a gnomic Subject
line, followed by a single line in the body -- the youtube link.

Jum's no the only wan!

John

umurni

yooz english punters have to be spoon fed.....I shud dingh you all