Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......

On 23/10/2018 08:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_metal#Metallurgy ?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...monkey%20metal ?

No idea where "monkey" came from.

Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?
I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap
planes etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory
insult against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey
metal on old hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......

On Tuesday, 23 October 2018 08:28:22 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......

Brittle die castings of aluminium were referred to as "Monkey Metal" when I was a lad.
One that springs to mind was and aluminium box spanner that Halfords sold to cyclists. Guaranteed to break on first use.

On 23/10/2018 08:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......


We used to use the term to refer to zinc alloy castings - the sort of
thing that stayed intact so long as the outer skin and plating remained
but crumbled away otherwise.

A google on zinc alloy and monkey metal will bring up a number of
musical instrument and model makers references.

Nick

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On 23/10/2018 08:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap
planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on
old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......


We used to use the term to refer to zinc alloy castings - the sort of
thing that stayed intact so long as the outer skin and plating remained
but crumbled away otherwise.

Is that the stuff that you used to get in 60's tail light surrounds ......

On 23/10/2018 08:55, Brian Gaff wrote:
Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?
I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?
Brian

Isn't the 'pig' bit a reference to the casting of iron ingots, that look
like piglets suckling off the mother pig?

Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......



Can you not use Google ?

Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote

Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy

Yep.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...monkey%20metal

or something else......

Nope.

my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap planes etc
were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult against
the japs ? ....

Yep. They also claimed that they couldn’t see in the dark, but that
doesn’t explain Pearl Harbour or Singapore or HongKong or Malaya.

found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on old hyundais

Those are korean, stupid.

and never found it on say a ford ......

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Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?

https://www.google.com/search?q=pig+iron+etymology

I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?

Nope.

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap
planes etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory
insult against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey
metal on old hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......

On 23/10/2018 09:21, Nick Odell wrote:
On 23/10/2018 08:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap
planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal
on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......


We used to use the term to refer to zinc alloy castings - the sort of
thing that stayed intact so long as the outer skin and plating remained
but crumbled away otherwise.

A google on zinc alloy and monkey metal will bring up a number of
musical instrument and model makers references.

Nick
aka pot metal or mezac. Low temperature casting alloys. Dinky toy metal.

Cheap, takes detail but very low strength and a crap surface finish.


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On 23/10/2018 08:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......


I always used it for a poor quality casting that once it breaks you can
see a very grainy structure on the break. Ford contina Mk3 door handles
that easy broke in half were made from this s***.

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"FMurtz" wrote in message
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap
planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on
old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......



Can you not use Google ?

doesn't tell you if the monkey bit is about japs........

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"FMurtz" wrote in message
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap
planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on
old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......



Can you not use Google ?

doesn't tell you if the monkey bit is about japs........

cheeky *******

On 23/10/2018 10:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/10/2018 09:21, Nick Odell wrote:
On 23/10/2018 08:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap
planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal
on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......


We used to use the term to refer to zinc alloy castings - the sort of
thing that stayed intact so long as the outer skin and plating
remained but crumbled away otherwise.

A google on zinc alloy and monkey metal will bring up a number of
musical instrument and model makers references.

Nick
aka pot metal or mezac. Low temperature casting alloys. Dinky toy metal.

Cheap, takes detail but very low strength and a crap surface finish.


Mazak (also Zamac). Zinc with 5% aluminium. Die-cast.

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I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?

Nope.

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:49:14 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
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Those are korean, stupid.

You STINK of troll ****, senile Rot!

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On Tuesday, 23 October 2018 08:55:28 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
...
I'm wondering if there is ... Kangaroo wood?

You see Brian, when a Daddy Kangaroo and a Mummy Kangaroo love
each other very much (continued on page 94)

Brian Gaff wrote:
Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?
I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?
Brian

There is certainly banana wood. Available from most DIY sheds :-)

On 23/10/18 08:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......



My old man used to call any such nasty alloy "muckite".

In article ,
Nick Odell wrote:
We used to use the term to refer to zinc alloy castings - the sort of
thing that stayed intact so long as the outer skin and plating remained
but crumbled away otherwise.

A google on zinc alloy and monkey metal will bring up a number of
musical instrument and model makers references.

Generic term used to be pot metal. Think one brand name got changed to
Muckite.

I've a feeling there were different mixes used, as some seemed to last
rather better than others.

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On 23/10/2018 11:50, Bob Minchin wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?
Â* I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?
Â* Brian

There is certainly banana wood. Available from most DIY sheds :-)

And Dog watches.
Cats paws.
Pussy willow.

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On 23/10/2018 12:25, Tim Watts wrote:
On 23/10/18 08:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap
planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal
on old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......



My old man used to call any such nasty alloy "muckite".

fairly common term. I alwys knew it as mezac or zinc alloy, but a mate
says muckite or pot metal


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Really? Well their eyesight must have been much like mine was when I was
young to think that!
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:55:23 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
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Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?
I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?
Brian

AIUI the term pig iron comes from the moulds that molten iron straight
from the blast furnace was run into - a long trough with a series of
smaller side troughs looking vaguely like a row of piglets suckling on
a sow's teats.

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/10/2018 09:21, Nick Odell wrote:
On 23/10/2018 08:28, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap

We used to use the term to refer to zinc alloy castings - the sort of
thing that stayed intact so long as the outer skin and plating remained
but crumbled away otherwise.

A google on zinc alloy and monkey metal will bring up a number of
musical instrument and model makers references.

Nick
aka pot metal or mezac. Low temperature casting alloys. Dinky toy metal.

Cheap, takes detail but very low strength and a crap surface finish.



Some people collect Dinky Toys, pre WW2 ones in even quite battered
condition fetch fairly high prices as the mix to form the alloy wasnt very
good and even if one was left untouched it still cracked into pieces due to
metal fatigue setting in so one that managed not to self destruct may be a
rare survivor.
PostWW2 they were not perfect but had improved enough to last the time of
most childhoods.

This prewar tram is a typical example of one with problems.
https://goo.gl/images/1KJ12D


Didnt the term start with the metal being used to make cheap souvenirs
trinkets in India etc during the time
of British rule many of which would have been of Monkeys? They were at
the bottom end of the market with the better ones being made of Brass or
Bronze.

GH

Yes then again on page 143.
Them marsupials with big hind legs tend to jump about a lot.

Where is Skippy when you need her.
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I'm wondering if there is ... Kangaroo wood?

You see Brian, when a Daddy Kangaroo and a Mummy Kangaroo love
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Yes when I used to build flying model aircraft there was also banana oil..
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Brian Gaff wrote:
Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?
I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?
Brian

There is certainly banana wood. Available from most DIY sheds :-)

Yes, why was it that Balsa trees did not blow away in the wind?
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On 23/10/2018 11:50, Bob Minchin wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?
I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?
Brian

There is certainly banana wood. Available from most DIY sheds :-)

And Dog watches.
Cats paws.
Pussy willow.

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So a form of castable alloy but not very strong,maybe still full of air
bubbles or other impurities perhaps. Some of the bits on older Corgi model
cars seemed to be made from that sort of metal, it almost chipped off. Later
they used even cheaper plastic.
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On Tuesday, 23 October 2018 08:28:22 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Just what is monkey metal ? is it just a cheap pot alloy or something
else......my old boss who was in ww2 used to say it was the metal jap
planes
etc were made of and I figured the monkey part was a derogatory insult
against the japs ? ....found a lot of what I would call monkey metal on
old
hyundais and never found it on say a ford ......

Brittle die castings of aluminium were referred to as "Monkey Metal" when
I was a lad.
One that springs to mind was and aluminium box spanner that Halfords sold
to cyclists. Guaranteed to break on first use.

On Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:41:36 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes, why was it that Balsa trees did not blow away in the wind?
Brian


When green it's dense and heavy. It has a bright red resin the Indians use medicinally.

It has another name in classic car circles metal tail light surrounds
etc....but I can't find it ......any ideas?

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So a form of castable alloy but not very strong,maybe still full of air
bubbles or other impurities perhaps. Some of the bits on older Corgi
model cars seemed to be made from that sort of metal, it almost chipped
off. Later they used even cheaper plastic.
Brian

Not so. Its virtue - if it had one - is it cast very well indeed.

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Yes then again on page 143.
Them marsupials with big hind legs tend to jump about a lot.

Where is Skippy when you need her.

Long since turned into pet food.

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On Tuesday, 23 October 2018 08:55:28 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
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I'm wondering if there is ... Kangaroo wood?

You see Brian, when a Daddy Kangaroo and a Mummy Kangaroo love
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Yes, why was it that Balsa trees did not blow away in the wind?

They tend to have these things called roots in the ground, stupid.
I was about to send you a photo of one and then realised that
I was having a massive brain fart.

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On 23/10/2018 11:50, Bob Minchin wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?
I'm wondering if there is badger plastic, or Kangaroo wood?
Brian

There is certainly banana wood. Available from most DIY sheds :-)

And Dog watches.
Cats paws.
Pussy willow.

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them"

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On 23/10/2018 08:55, Brian Gaff wrote:

Don't know where did the term Pig Iron come from?

"The traditional shape of the molds used for pig iron ingots was a
branching structure formed in sand, with many individual ingots at right
angles[3] to a central channel or runner, resembling a litter of piglets
being suckled by a sow." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_iron

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:26:23 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
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Yes then again on page 143.
Them marsupials with big hind legs tend to jump about a lot.

Where is Skippy when you need her.

Long since turned into pet food.

Soon YOU will be food for worms, senile Ozzie troll! G

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:34:08 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
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Yes, why was it that Balsa trees did not blow away in the wind?

They tend to have these things called roots in the ground, stupid.
I was about to send you a photo of one and then realised that
I was having a massive brain fart.

So, what's new, you senile old fart?

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Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes, why was it that Balsa trees did not blow away in the wind?
Brian

Must be because they are hardwood.

On Friday, 26 October 2018 04:55:48 UTC+1, FMurtz wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes, why was it that Balsa trees did not blow away in the wind?
Brian

Must be because they are hardwood.

"Hardwoods" are not necessarily hard.

harry wrote:
On Friday, 26 October 2018 04:55:48 UTC+1, FMurtz wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes, why was it that Balsa trees did not blow away in the wind?
Brian

Must be because they are hardwood.

"Hardwoods" are not necessarily hard.

I just ordered some balsa seeds to see if I can grow one.