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110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings.
Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
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wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? Use lubricant -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote:
It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
In message , John
Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) -- Tim Lamb |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote:
It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? Cheers Dave R fairy liquid...I knew a bloke once who used to GTX his rubber rings...they stated leaking quite soon after .... |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 06/08/2018 19:35, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Â*Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. Â*First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. Â*I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Â*Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) also good as a plasticiser in mortar ..... |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 06/08/2018 18:28, John Rumm wrote:
On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. +1; although I have to admit doing it by disassembly once, where access was a bit awkward. Needed to use a hammer on the end of a piece of batten to fit the ring back on. And although I have used plenty of fairy liquid in the past, my impression is that proper silicone oil (liquid or spray) is slightly better. |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 06/08/2018 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/08/2018 19:35, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , John Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Â*Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. Â*First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. Â*I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Â*Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) also good as a plasticiser in mortar ..... if your name is Bodgit&Scarper |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 06/08/2018 21:13, Andrew wrote:
On 06/08/2018 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:35, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , John Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Â*Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. Â*First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. Â*I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Â*Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) also good as a plasticiser in mortar ..... if your name is Bodgit&Scarper no absolutely OK trust me on that .... |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 06/08/2018 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/08/2018 19:35, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , John Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Â*Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. Â*First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. Â*I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Â*Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) also good as a plasticiser in mortar ..... but you are the kind of person that uses this rather than soap and water to find leaks ... https://www.rocol.com/products/leak-...atural-gas-lpg |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 06/08/2018 22:06, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/08/2018 21:13, Andrew wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:35, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , John Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Â*Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. Â*First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. Â*I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Â*Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) also good as a plasticiser in mortar ..... if your name is Bodgit&Scarper no absolutely OK trust me on that .... https://tarmac-bluecircle.co.uk/all-washed-up/ -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 07/08/2018 01:09, John Rumm wrote:
On 06/08/2018 22:06, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 21:13, Andrew wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:35, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , John Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Â*Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. Â*First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. Â*I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Â*Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) also good as a plasticiser in mortar ..... if your name is Bodgit&Scarper no absolutely OK trust me on that .... https://tarmac-bluecircle.co.uk/all-washed-up/ fake news |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
In message , John
Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 22:06, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 21:13, Andrew wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:35, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , John Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. *Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. *First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. *I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. *Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) also good as a plasticiser in mortar ..... if your name is Bodgit&Scarper no absolutely OK trust me on that .... https://tarmac-bluecircle.co.uk/all-washed-up/ Agreed. The plumbers don't like you using washing up liquid for leak detection either. Not likely to affect rubber/plastics in soil pipes. -- Tim Lamb |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 21:13:32 +0100, newshound wrote:
On 06/08/2018 18:28, John Rumm wrote: On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. +1; although I have to admit doing it by disassembly once, where access was a bit awkward. Needed to use a hammer on the end of a piece of batten to fit the ring back on. And although I have used plenty of fairy liquid in the past, my impression is that proper silicone oil (liquid or spray) is slightly better. One advantage of WU liquid is that it dries out. Silicone oil/grease stays slippery permanently - this is OK if you might want to disassemble it, but does need axial limits otherwise the union might slide apart (unlikely in most circumstances). One example is foam padding on handlebars. Now it's not A Good Thing for the foam+tape to slide off and some people have had that happen. Using a water-based lube avoids this, if given time to dry out. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
On 07/08/2018 02:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 07/08/2018 01:09, John Rumm wrote: On 06/08/2018 22:06, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 21:13, Andrew wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:35, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , John Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Â*Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. Â*First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. Â*I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Â*Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) also good as a plasticiser in mortar ..... if your name is Bodgit&Scarper no absolutely OK trust me on that .... https://tarmac-bluecircle.co.uk/all-washed-up/ fake news Perhaps you should tell the manufacturers that their best practice advice for their product conflicts with your own belief. I am sure they will welcome your input. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 07/08/2018 02:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 07/08/2018 01:09, John Rumm wrote: On 06/08/2018 22:06, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 21:13, Andrew wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/08/2018 19:35, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , John Rumm writes On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. Fairy liquid works he-) also good as a plasticiser in mortar ..... if your name is Bodgit&Scarper no absolutely OK trust me on that .... https://tarmac-bluecircle.co.uk/all-washed-up/ fake news Perhaps you should tell the manufacturers that their best practice advice for their product conflicts with your own belief. I am sure they will welcome your input. I could do that ..... |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
PeterC Wrote in message:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 21:13:32 +0100, newshound wrote: On 06/08/2018 18:28, John Rumm wrote: On 06/08/2018 18:01, David wrote: It is a while since I messed around with 110mm soil pipe fittings. Digging a brown OSMA joint out of stock, I find it has a rubber seal inside a collar. First attempt to push in a length of grey pipe was not successful. I then levered off the brown plastic ring with the rubber seal, slid this down the grey pipe, fitted the grey pipe into the joint and it looked as though the sealing ring would knock back down to grip the grey pipe. I thought I had better check, and all I can find online so far is the method of chamfering the end of the grey pipe, lubricating it with silicone, and forcing it in. Is my (possibly logical) way O.K. or should I reach for the lubricant? A chamfer and some lube is your friend... there should be no need to pull apart the seal. +1; although I have to admit doing it by disassembly once, where access was a bit awkward. Needed to use a hammer on the end of a piece of batten to fit the ring back on. And although I have used plenty of fairy liquid in the past, my impression is that proper silicone oil (liquid or spray) is slightly better. One advantage of WU liquid is that it dries out. Silicone oil/grease stays slippery permanently - this is OK if you might want to disassemble it, but does need axial limits otherwise the union might slide apart (unlikely in most circumstances). One example is foam padding on handlebars. Now it's not A Good Thing for the foam+tape to slide off and some people have had that happen. Using a water-based lube avoids this, if given time to dry out. KY ? -- -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
110mm push fit soil pipe fixings - two fitting methods?
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KY? or KP if vegetarian. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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