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I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality? TW |
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On 26/07/18 08:16, TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality? TW I don't recall seats in the 70s constantly getting loose and going off centre. I can't buy a set now that seems to be able to hold its position. Always with independent hinges instead of a bar - surely bog seat holes aren't *that* far misaligned? |
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On 26/07/2018 08:16, TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality? TW I replaced both in the main house when we moved here 14 years ago with what was actually B&Qs least expensive option. STWNFI liked them because they had a wooden cover over the fixings area as well as wooden seats. I liked them because they we the least expensive:-) They are both still perfect. We left the original in the granny annex which we then let as a holiday let for the past eight years. It is still there and still perfect with no loss of parts. I've no idea what make it is but its as fitted by the housing association who owned the place before us and ran it as a care home. Mike |
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TimW wrote
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf Thats because your lard arse is much bigger than it was then. and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality? Ask Big Ears. He carts his around everywhere he goes. |
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:55:46 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf That¢s because your lard arse is much bigger than it was then. More crap from the resident bull****ter! and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality? Ask Big Ears. He carts his around everywhere he goes. It's really your ****head that you cart around everywhere you go, senile oaf! -- Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp about senile cretin Rot Speed: "Thick pillock!" MID: |
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On 26/07/2018 08:33, Tim Watts wrote:
I don't recall seats in the 70s constantly getting loose and going off centre. I can't buy a set now that seems to be able to hold its position. Always with independent hinges instead of a bar - surely bog seat holes aren't *that* far misaligned? My toilet uses blind hole fixings and the white plastic ones that came with the seat/bog were utter crap. After a couple of attempts to fix the seat securely to the pan I found what worked for me was https://tinyurl.com/yahzoqrp (there are other Ebay/Amazon sellers - and some that include the rest of the kit which is unnecessary if replacing the existing fixings) _BUT_ the hole in the pan was still larger than the top part of the fixing so out came my box of assorted Aldi/lidl O rings and I found some the size of the hole that fitted over the top part of the fixing. I fitted 3 off O rings to each fixing. This kept the fixing centered in the hole whilst tightening. I think this non-centering of these blind hole fixings is the reason that many become loose, and it starts the first time you sit on the seat. Once the fixing is buckled on one side or slightly bent it will never fully tighten in the correct place. Previous to changing the toilet I did have one where I fitted a cheap real wood seat and I see that some of the sheds/argos etc. still claim real wood seats at reasonable prices. https://www.screwfix.com/p/cooke-and...-natural/7637k With fixings where you can get to the back/underside of the pan to tighten/undo the nut I've always greased up the screw tread during fitting. It must be a rare household where pee or cleaning products don't seep under the fitting to form some layer of crud or corrosion that hampers removal years later. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality? TW I got one by Bemis (or Bremis, or something) that seems quite good. It doesn't move. |
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Our first "soft close" seat (maybe from Wilko) lasted about a year
before it went wrong. I replaced it with one from B&Q and that is still fine after 4 years. I think the design of the soft close mechanism varies between makes and the lousy ones fail after a short time. -- Jeff On 26/07/18 09:33, Brian Gaff wrote: I seem to have no issues. My last one lasted over 20 years and only broke due to a large item dropping on one corner and cracking the plastic, which was in itself better than cracking the actual toilet, after all. Not sure about these friction soft lowering mechanisms though, Mine is almost non existent after a year. Brian |
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On 26/07/2018 08:16, TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality? TW My original 1976 Ideal Standard/Pampas green bog seat is going fine. The rubber pads have cracked slightly but that's all. So all those people who chucked out perfectly good, but green bogs, basins and baths have shot themselves in the bumcheeks. |
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. 'We aim to please. You aim too please.' |
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On 26/07/2018 11:13, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. 'We aim to please. You aim too please.' Stand closer. It might be shorter than you think. -- Max Demian |
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On Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:10:32 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
My original 1976 Ideal Standard/Pampas green bog seat is going fine. The rubber pads have cracked slightly but that's all. Having lived through the 1970s, I think Pampas was a sort of baby diarrhoea yellow. Abscess green was more likely to be Avocado. Owain |
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality? TW I'm using the original one that was fitted in about 1950 when the house was built (it's concave section, so the bones fit). OK, it's black, no lid etc., but it has a bar and stays put. I've though of changing it for a paler one with a lid but, so far, haven't managed to find a similar one. Also need to be a big opening, for some reason I can't fathom. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On 26/07/2018 11:30, wrote:
On Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:10:32 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: My original 1976 Ideal Standard/Pampas green bog seat is going fine. The rubber pads have cracked slightly but that's all. Having lived through the 1970s, I think Pampas was a sort of baby diarrhoea yellow. Abscess green was more likely to be Avocado. Owain Nope. Pampas green is very green, but a lot paler than Avocado which was the colour of those carrots that posh people buy at Waitrose. https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/Ideal-Stand...5658320?_pgn=3 |
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On 26/07/2018 11:30, wrote:
On Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:10:32 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: My original 1976 Ideal Standard/Pampas green bog seat is going fine. The rubber pads have cracked slightly but that's all. Having lived through the 1970s, I think Pampas was a sort of baby diarrhoea yellow. Abscess green was more likely to be Avocado. Owain Crikey. This one is listed as 'vintage'. 40 years old maybe, but maybe one careful (Not female) owner. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-P...AOSwTmJappN h |
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. 'We aim to please. You aim too please.' FAIL! These were supposedly the last two lines of a notice in one of the IoM ferries' gentlemen's toilets. It should actually have read:- "and we aim to please. Now, you aim too, please!" If you must quote, then at least get the feckin' punctuation right! It really really does make all the difference in the world. -- Johnny B Good |
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:35:19 GMT, Johnny B Good
wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. 'We aim to please. You aim too please.' FAIL! These were supposedly the last two lines of a notice in one of the IoM ferries' gentlemen's toilets. It should actually have read:- "and we aim to please. Now, you aim too, please!" If you must quote, then at least get the feckin' punctuation right! It really really does make all the difference in the world. I don't actually think the one I saw was punctuated. Maybe I was concentrating too much on my aim !!! |
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On 26/07/2018 16:35, Johnny B Good wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. 'We aim to please. You aim too please.' FAIL! These were supposedly the last two lines of a notice in one of the IoM ferries' gentlemen's toilets. It should actually have read:- "and we aim to please. Now, you aim too, please!" If you must quote, then at least get the feckin' punctuation right! It really really does make all the difference in the world. +1 But aiming when Storm Zebedee is passing up the Irish Sea is difficult. |
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On 26/07/2018 09:33, Brian Gaff wrote:
I seem to have no issues. My last one lasted over 20 years and only broke due to a large item dropping on one corner and cracking the plastic, which was in itself better than cracking the actual toilet, after all. Not sure about these friction soft lowering mechanisms though, Mine is almost non existent after a year. Brian The one (from B&Q if I recollect) is still going strong after 8 years. SteveW |
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On 26/07/18 14:58, Pamela wrote:
On 08:16 26 Jul 2018, TimW wrote: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. How very true. Something or another on our loo seats wears out or breaks almost every year and it's a dirty job to replace them. We never seem to be able to get decent fixings. Once I ordered toilet seat hinges from Hafele and replaced them and refitted the seats with the old wooden parts. It was expensive and not really worth the bother, and those hinges broke as well. tw |
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On 26/07/2018 17:36, Andrew wrote:
On 26/07/2018 16:35, Johnny B Good wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. 'We aim to please.Â* You aim too please.' In one pub I use; We aim to please. Your aim would help! Mike |
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On 27/07/2018 08:20, Muddymike wrote:
On 26/07/2018 17:36, Andrew wrote: On 26/07/2018 16:35, Johnny B Good wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. 'We aim to please.Â* You aim too please.' In one pub I use; We aim to please. Your aim would help! Mike My Club has an original Victorian 'throne', complete with cistern etc. The 'art work' is really quite spectacular, although I find it strange something so 'basic' (as in serving a need) should be so ornate. Someone located a specialist to refurb it and bring it back into service several years ago and, while not the main 'facility' it is still in use. |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message news On 27/07/2018 08:20, Muddymike wrote: On 26/07/2018 17:36, Andrew wrote: On 26/07/2018 16:35, Johnny B Good wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. 'We aim to please. You aim too please.' In one pub I use; We aim to please. Your aim would help! Mike My Club has an original Victorian 'throne', complete with cistern etc. The 'art work' is really quite spectacular, although I find it strange something so 'basic' (as in serving a need) should be so ornate. Someone located a specialist to refurb it and bring it back into service several years ago and, while not the main 'facility' it is still in use. probably a shanks item...seen some beauties ....... |
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Andrew Wrote in message:
On 26/07/2018 08:16, TimW wrote: I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****. Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality? TW My original 1976 Ideal Standard/Pampas green bog seat is going fine. The rubber pads have cracked slightly but that's all. So all those people who chucked out perfectly good, but green bogs, basins and baths have shot themselves in the bumcheeks. That's a big butt.... -- -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:10:32 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: My original 1976 Ideal Standard/Pampas green bog seat is going fine. The rubber pads have cracked slightly but that's all. Having lived through the 1970s, I think Pampas was a sort of baby diarrhoea yellow. Abscess green was more likely to be Avocado. Owain :-D I still remember the incredible tide marks left in the BLACK bath of my sub-ten year old childhood. Oh and the lead water supply pipe to it splitting on Xmas day morning ... proper plumber fixed that though he was not popular at home! -- -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 27/07/2018 22:24, Jim K wrote:
I still remember the incredible tide marks left in the BLACK bath of my sub-ten year old childhood. Steptoe and Son. On one program they realised that if they went round viewing posh houses as prospective purchasers, the neighbours usually paid them off in cash to 'go elsewhere'. One house had a black bathroom suite. Albert remarked in horror "It's got a black bog !" |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:49:28 +0100, Andrew wrote:
Steptoe and Son. On one program they realised that if they went round viewing posh houses as prospective purchasers, the neighbours usually paid them off in cash to 'go elsewhere'. One house had a black bathroom suite. Albert remarked in horror "It's got a black bog !" There's another classic one where the old man ends up still sitting in the bath (with his hat on) after it falls through the ceiling into the living room below. And another episode where they install (really, really badly) central heating which takes on a life of its own when the boiler fires up. Brilliant old stuff. Still hilarious 50 years on. -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 13:14:38 +0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:
And another episode where they install (really, really badly) central heating which takes on a life of its own when the boiler fires up. Brilliant old stuff. Still hilarious 50 years on. Just noticed someone's uploaded it to Youtube! Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e21YuOucq_g -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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Pamela wrote:
Maybe it's not the fixings after all but the way the seat slips and slides. Perhaps slippery buffers under the seat are the culprit. Interestingly, I have noticed that seats in accessible toilets generally have projections which engage with the outside edge of the bowl to ensure that they can resist sideways forces. Perhaps we could all benefit from such a design feature, but it would require close matching of seat to pan. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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On 13/08/2018 08:32, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Pamela wrote: Maybe it's not the fixings after all but the way the seat slips and slides. Perhaps slippery buffers under the seat are the culprit. Interestingly, I have noticed that seats in accessible toilets generally have projections which engage with the outside edge of the bowl to ensure that they can resist sideways forces. Perhaps we could all benefit from such a design feature, but it would require close matching of seat to pan. The projections could have elongated screw holes, so they can be adjusted to fit. Chris |
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