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I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality?

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On 26/07/18 08:16, TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality?

TW


I don't recall seats in the 70s constantly getting loose and going off
centre. I can't buy a set now that seems to be able to hold its position.

Always with independent hinges instead of a bar - surely bog seat holes
aren't *that* far misaligned?
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On 26/07/2018 08:16, TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality?

TW

I replaced both in the main house when we moved here 14 years ago with
what was actually B&Qs least expensive option. STWNFI liked them because
they had a wooden cover over the fixings area as well as wooden seats. I
liked them because they we the least expensive:-)

They are both still perfect.

We left the original in the granny annex which we then let as a holiday
let for the past eight years. It is still there and still perfect with
no loss of parts.

I've no idea what make it is but its as fitted by the housing
association who owned the place before us and ran it as a care home.

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TimW wrote

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware
my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos
Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have
lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat
every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws
corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf


Thats because your lard arse is much bigger than it was then.

and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.


Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality?


Ask Big Ears. He carts his around everywhere he goes.

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:55:46 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the hardware
my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original Victorian Thos
Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case it seemed to have
lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to replace a toilet seat
every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws
corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf


That¢s because your lard arse is much bigger than it was then.


More crap from the resident bull****ter!

and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.


Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality?


Ask Big Ears. He carts his around everywhere he goes.


It's really your ****head that you cart around everywhere you go, senile
oaf!

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On 26/07/2018 08:33, Tim Watts wrote:


I don't recall seats in the 70s constantly getting loose and going off
centre. I can't buy a set now that seems to be able to hold its position.

Always with independent hinges instead of a bar - surely bog seat holes
aren't *that* far misaligned?


My toilet uses blind hole fixings and the white plastic ones that came
with the seat/bog were utter crap. After a couple of attempts to fix the
seat securely to the pan I found what worked for me was
https://tinyurl.com/yahzoqrp

(there are other Ebay/Amazon sellers - and some that include the rest of
the kit which is unnecessary if replacing the existing fixings)

_BUT_ the hole in the pan was still larger than the top part of the
fixing so out came my box of assorted Aldi/lidl O rings and I found some
the size of the hole that fitted over the top part of the fixing. I
fitted 3 off O rings to each fixing. This kept the fixing centered in
the hole whilst tightening. I think this non-centering of these blind
hole fixings is the reason that many become loose, and it starts the
first time you sit on the seat. Once the fixing is buckled on one side
or slightly bent it will never fully tighten in the correct place.

Previous to changing the toilet I did have one where I fitted a cheap
real wood seat and I see that some of the sheds/argos etc. still claim
real wood seats at reasonable prices.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/cooke-and...-natural/7637k

With fixings where you can get to the back/underside of the pan to
tighten/undo the nut I've always greased up the screw tread during
fitting. It must be a rare household where pee or cleaning products
don't seep under the fitting to form some layer of crud or corrosion
that hampers removal years later.


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TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality?

TW


I got one by Bemis (or Bremis, or something) that seems quite good. It
doesn't move.
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Our first "soft close" seat (maybe from Wilko) lasted about a year
before it went wrong. I replaced it with one from B&Q and that is still
fine after 4 years. I think the design of the soft close mechanism
varies between makes and the lousy ones fail after a short time.

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On 26/07/18 09:33, Brian Gaff wrote:
I seem to have no issues. My last one lasted over 20 years and only broke
due to a large item dropping on one corner and cracking the plastic, which
was in itself better than cracking the actual toilet, after all. Not sure
about these friction soft lowering mechanisms though, Mine is almost non
existent after a year.
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On 26/07/2018 08:16, TimW wrote:
I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality?

TW


My original 1976 Ideal Standard/Pampas green bog seat
is going fine. The rubber pads have cracked slightly
but that's all.

So all those people who chucked out perfectly good, but
green bogs, basins and baths have shot themselves in the
bumcheeks.


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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.


'We aim to please. You aim too please.'
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On 26/07/2018 11:13, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.


'We aim to please. You aim too please.'


Stand closer. It might be shorter than you think.

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On Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:10:32 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
My original 1976 Ideal Standard/Pampas green bog seat
is going fine. The rubber pads have cracked slightly
but that's all.


Having lived through the 1970s, I think Pampas was a sort of baby diarrhoea yellow.

Abscess green was more likely to be Avocado.

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality?

TW


I'm using the original one that was fitted in about 1950 when the house was
built (it's concave section, so the bones fit).
OK, it's black, no lid etc., but it has a bar and stays put.
I've though of changing it for a paler one with a lid but, so far, haven't
managed to find a similar one. Also need to be a big opening, for some
reason I can't fathom.
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.


'We aim to please. You aim too please.'


FAIL!

These were supposedly the last two lines of a notice in one of the IoM
ferries' gentlemen's toilets. It should actually have read:-

"and we aim to please.

Now, you aim too, please!"

If you must quote, then at least get the feckin' punctuation right! It
really really does make all the difference in the world.

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:35:19 GMT, Johnny B Good
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.


'We aim to please. You aim too please.'


FAIL!

These were supposedly the last two lines of a notice in one of the IoM
ferries' gentlemen's toilets. It should actually have read:-

"and we aim to please.

Now, you aim too, please!"

If you must quote, then at least get the feckin' punctuation right! It
really really does make all the difference in the world.


I don't actually think the one I saw was punctuated. Maybe I was
concentrating too much on my aim !!!
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On 26/07/2018 16:35, Johnny B Good wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.


'We aim to please. You aim too please.'


FAIL!

These were supposedly the last two lines of a notice in one of the IoM
ferries' gentlemen's toilets. It should actually have read:-

"and we aim to please.

Now, you aim too, please!"

If you must quote, then at least get the feckin' punctuation right! It
really really does make all the difference in the world.

+1

But aiming when Storm Zebedee is passing up the Irish Sea is difficult.
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On 26/07/2018 09:33, Brian Gaff wrote:
I seem to have no issues. My last one lasted over 20 years and only broke
due to a large item dropping on one corner and cracking the plastic, which
was in itself better than cracking the actual toilet, after all. Not sure
about these friction soft lowering mechanisms though, Mine is almost non
existent after a year.
Brian


The one (from B&Q if I recollect) is still going strong after 8 years.

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On 26/07/18 14:58, Pamela wrote:
On 08:16 26 Jul 2018, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any
case it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days
I seem to replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber
pads fall off, the hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat
itself turns out to be mdf and slowly explodes as it sucks up the
****.


How very true.

Something or another on our loo seats wears out or breaks almost every
year and it's a dirty job to replace them.

We never seem to be able to get decent fixings.



Once I ordered toilet seat hinges from Hafele and replaced them and
refitted the seats with the old wooden parts. It was expensive and not
really worth the bother, and those hinges broke as well.

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On 26/07/2018 17:36, Andrew wrote:
On 26/07/2018 16:35, Johnny B Good wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

'We aim to please.Â* You aim too please.'



In one pub I use;
We aim to please. Your aim would help!

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On 27/07/2018 08:20, Muddymike wrote:
On 26/07/2018 17:36, Andrew wrote:
On 26/07/2018 16:35, Johnny B Good wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off,
the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be
mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

'We aim to please.Â* You aim too please.'


In one pub I use;
We aim to please. Your aim would help!

Mike


My Club has an original Victorian 'throne', complete with cistern etc.
The 'art work' is really quite spectacular, although I find it strange
something so 'basic' (as in serving a need) should be so ornate. Someone
located a specialist to refurb it and bring it back into service several
years ago and, while not the main 'facility' it is still in use.


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On 27/07/2018 08:20, Muddymike wrote:
On 26/07/2018 17:36, Andrew wrote:
On 26/07/2018 16:35, Johnny B Good wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:13:20 +0100, Scott wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:16:03 +0100, TimW wrote:

I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any
case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem
to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off,
the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be
mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

'We aim to please. You aim too please.'


In one pub I use;
We aim to please. Your aim would help!

Mike


My Club has an original Victorian 'throne', complete with cistern etc. The
'art work' is really quite spectacular, although I find it strange
something so 'basic' (as in serving a need) should be so ornate. Someone
located a specialist to refurb it and bring it back into service several
years ago and, while not the main 'facility' it is still in use.



probably a shanks item...seen some beauties .......


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I am sure when I learned to use a toilet in the 1960s some of the
hardware my boyish bum was placed on must have been the original
Victorian Thos Crapper polished mahogany. Or maybe not but in any case
it seemed to have lasted a long time. In my house these days I seem to
replace a toilet seat every 12/24 months; the rubber pads fall off, the
hinges break, the screws corrode or the seat itself turns out to be mdf
and slowly explodes as it sucks up the ****.

Do I have to buy a new one from Harrods to get quality?

TW


My original 1976 Ideal Standard/Pampas green bog seat
is going fine. The rubber pads have cracked slightly
but that's all.

So all those people who chucked out perfectly good, but
green bogs, basins and baths have shot themselves in the
bumcheeks.


That's a big butt....
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On 27/07/2018 22:24, Jim K wrote:
I still remember the incredible tide marks left in the BLACK bath
of my sub-ten year old childhood.


Steptoe and Son.

On one program they realised that if they went round viewing
posh houses as prospective purchasers, the neighbours usually
paid them off in cash to 'go elsewhere'.

One house had a black bathroom suite. Albert remarked in
horror "It's got a black bog !"
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:49:28 +0100, Andrew wrote:

Steptoe and Son.

On one program they realised that if they went round viewing posh houses
as prospective purchasers, the neighbours usually paid them off in cash
to 'go elsewhere'.

One house had a black bathroom suite. Albert remarked in horror "It's
got a black bog !"


There's another classic one where the old man ends up still sitting in
the bath (with his hat on) after it falls through the ceiling into the
living room below.
And another episode where they install (really, really badly) central
heating which takes on a life of its own when the boiler fires up.
Brilliant old stuff. Still hilarious 50 years on.




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On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 13:14:38 +0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:

And another episode where they install (really, really badly) central
heating which takes on a life of its own when the boiler fires up.
Brilliant old stuff. Still hilarious 50 years on.


Just noticed someone's uploaded it to Youtube! Enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e21YuOucq_g




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Pamela wrote:

Maybe it's not the fixings after all but the way the seat slips and
slides. Perhaps slippery buffers under the seat are the culprit.


Interestingly, I have noticed that seats in accessible toilets
generally have projections which engage with the outside edge of
the bowl to ensure that they can resist sideways forces.

Perhaps we could all benefit from such a design feature, but it
would require close matching of seat to pan.

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On 13/08/2018 08:32, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Pamela wrote:

Maybe it's not the fixings after all but the way the seat slips and
slides. Perhaps slippery buffers under the seat are the culprit.


Interestingly, I have noticed that seats in accessible toilets
generally have projections which engage with the outside edge of
the bowl to ensure that they can resist sideways forces.

Perhaps we could all benefit from such a design feature, but it
would require close matching of seat to pan.


The projections could have elongated screw holes, so they can be
adjusted to fit.


Chris


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