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Update. Finally took the plunge yesterday morning and cut the hot water
pipe, and fitted the compression stop end. This morning, still no drips
or weeping :-) Tempted, of course, to nip it up a fraction 'just in
case', but will leave well alone.

The pipe slicer is a wizard tool.

Basin, shower and WC all out, the only remaining job being properly
blocking the wastes to prevent smells wafting in. Currently sealed with
plastic bags and rubber bands.

Thanks, all.
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Basin, shower and WC all out, the only remaining job being properly
blocking the wastes to prevent smells wafting in.Â* Currently sealed with
plastic bags and rubber bands.

Thanks, all.


I once worked in a building where a toilet block was no longer used and
had just been piled high with "useful junk" and the door locked. After a
while people started noticing a unpleasant smell which despite looking
for deceased rodents etc. got worse over a period of weeks. The smell
was eventually traced to the disused toilet block. The water in the
toilet bowls S bends had evaporated. The near instant short term cure
for the smell was to turn on the water again and flush the loos.

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I once worked in a building where a toilet block was no longer used and
had just been piled high with "useful junk" and the door locked. After
a while people started noticing a unpleasant smell which despite
looking for deceased rodents etc. got worse over a period of weeks. The
smell was eventually traced to the disused toilet block. The water in
the toilet bowls S bends had evaporated. The near instant short term
cure for the smell was to turn on the water again and flush the loos.

grin We had exactly the same problem in the bathroom I have just
removed. Has never been used in the 16 years we have been here, but had
to top up the water in the bends to maintain the seal - the smell would
remind me, when I forgot!
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grin We had exactly the same problem in the bathroom I have just
removed. Has never been used in the 16 years we have been here, but had
to top up the water in the bends to maintain the seal - the smell would
remind me, when I forgot!


I have an old "household tips" book somewhere that recommended filling the bend
with mineral oil if they were to be unused for a longer period. Frostproof, and
won't evaporate. Clever!

(They also had tips on how to use the naphthalene mothball vaporizer attachment
on the vacuum cleaner, used to recirculate the stuff in a sealed closet, at the
rate of pounds of mothballs. Flammable fumes fanned around a sealed space, by a
sparking brush motor -- what could go wrong? And the smell must have been
powerful. But the book probably has a section on the virtues of asbestos as
well...)


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On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 10:49:10 +0100, Graeme
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grin We had exactly the same problem in the bathroom I have just
removed. Has never been used in the 16 years we have been here, but
had to top up the water in the bends to maintain the seal - the
smell would remind me, when I forgot!


I have an old "household tips" book somewhere that recommended
filling the bend with mineral oil if they were to be unused for a
longer period. Frostproof, and won't evaporate. Clever!

(They also had tips on how to use the naphthalene mothball vaporizer
attachment on the vacuum cleaner, used to recirculate the stuff in a
sealed closet, at the rate of pounds of mothballs. Flammable fumes
fanned around a sealed space, by a sparking brush motor -- what could
go wrong? And the smell must have been powerful. But the book
probably has a section on the virtues of asbestos as well...)


Thomas Prufer


When I was at school, we found an old engineering book in the science
building library. We turned to the section on making a radio
transmitter, and it started by describing how to build and set up the
spark gap. Needless to say, we didn't try it for ourselves.

One of our student-era valve TV sets did just that, though. It died in
my room in a spectacular exhibition of sparks and smoke, and all the
neighbours reported strong interference on their pictures at the same
time. Pure coincidence, I'm sure...

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Basin, shower and WC all out, the only remaining job being properly
blocking the wastes to prevent smells wafting in. Currently sealed with
plastic bags and rubber bands.

Thanks, all.


I once worked in a building where a toilet block was no longer used and
had just been piled high with "useful junk" and the door locked. After a
while people started noticing a unpleasant smell which despite looking
for deceased rodents etc. got worse over a period of weeks. The smell
was eventually traced to the disused toilet block. The water in the
toilet bowls S bends had evaporated. The near instant short term cure
for the smell was to turn on the water again and flush the loos.


That's similar to what we found when first looking for a house. It had been
empty and on the market for some considerable time and the water in u-bend
had eveporated. "Nul points" to the estate agent

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On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 8:40:11 AM UTC+1, Graeme wrote:
Update. Finally took the plunge yesterday morning and cut the hot water
pipe, and fitted the compression stop end. This morning, still no drips
or weeping :-) Tempted, of course, to nip it up a fraction 'just in
case', but will leave well alone.

The pipe slicer is a wizard tool.

Basin, shower and WC all out, the only remaining job being properly
blocking the wastes to prevent smells wafting in. Currently sealed with
plastic bags and rubber bands.

Thanks, all.
--
Graeme


a quick check for leaks is to wipe the area with a piece of kitchen roll. Wet will show up easily
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On 28/06/2018 08:39, Graeme wrote:

Update.Â* Finally took the plunge yesterday morning and cut the hot water
pipe, and fitted the compression stop end.Â* This morning, still no drips
or weeping :-)Â* Tempted, of course, to nip it up a fraction 'just in
case', but will leave well alone.


It's probably not that great a risk in a domestic setting, but in
industrial and commercial premises, they go to great lengths to ensure
that there are no dead-legs in the hot plumbing as they can be a
breeding ground for legionella.

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It's probably not that great a risk in a domestic setting, but in
industrial and commercial premises, they go to great lengths to ensure
that there are no dead-legs in the hot plumbing as they can be a
breeding ground for legionella.


That is a cheerful thought, thank you :-)

Having said that, the pipe I cut was feeding a tap that has not been
used for at least 16 years, so nothing has changed except the tap being
replaced by a stop end.
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