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Chris June 19th 18 01:49 PM

T5 kitchen lighting balast compatibilty
 
Hi all,

I have a run of 3x20W fluorescent under-cabinet slimline strip lights;
only the middle one of which is still working. I was about to replace the
outer two when I read this warning at the bottom of the installation
sheet:

"These T5 luminaires must not be wired on the same circuit as standard
fluorescent fittings which use conventional low-loss magnetic ballasts."

How can I tell if the one remaining working one is of this type and is it
really important? It's been there since before I bought the place so at
least 7 years old.

ta!


[email protected] June 19th 18 08:57 PM

T5 kitchen lighting balast compatibilty
 
On Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:49:19 UTC+1, Chris wrote:
Hi all,

I have a run of 3x20W fluorescent under-cabinet slimline strip lights;
only the middle one of which is still working. I was about to replace the
outer two when I read this warning at the bottom of the installation
sheet:

"These T5 luminaires must not be wired on the same circuit as standard
fluorescent fittings which use conventional low-loss magnetic ballasts."

How can I tell if the one remaining working one is of this type and is it
really important? It's been there since before I bought the place so at
least 7 years old.

ta!


the only reason to avoid that I can think of is inductive kickback. It's easy to tell magnetic from electronic ballasts, perhaps googling will demonstrate.


NT

ARW June 19th 18 09:26 PM

T5 kitchen lighting balast compatibilty
 
On 19/06/2018 13:49, Chris wrote:
Hi all,

I have a run of 3x20W fluorescent under-cabinet slimline strip lights;
only the middle one of which is still working. I was about to replace the
outer two when I read this warning at the bottom of the installation
sheet:

"These T5 luminaires must not be wired on the same circuit as standard
fluorescent fittings which use conventional low-loss magnetic ballasts."

How can I tell if the one remaining working one is of this type and is it
really important? It's been there since before I bought the place so at
least 7 years old.

ta!



Want a serious answer?


Just replace all 3 tubes with identical tubes.

--
Adam

Andrew Gabriel June 19th 18 09:37 PM

T5 kitchen lighting balast compatibilty
 
In article ,
writes:
On Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:49:19 UTC+1, Chris wrote:
Hi all,

I have a run of 3x20W fluorescent under-cabinet slimline strip lights;
only the middle one of which is still working. I was about to replace the
outer two when I read this warning at the bottom of the installation
sheet:

"These T5 luminaires must not be wired on the same circuit as standard
fluorescent fittings which use conventional low-loss magnetic ballasts."

How can I tell if the one remaining working one is of this type and is it
really important? It's been there since before I bought the place so at
least 7 years old.


20W is not a standard T5 tube rating.
T5 HE and T5 HO tubes only run on electronic control gear.
However, since I don't know what your non-standard T5 tube is, I
can't be sure the same applies to that. The older T5 halophophate
range could run on magnetic ballasts, but they are rated 4,6,8,13W.

the only reason to avoid that I can think of is inductive kickback. It's easy to tell magnetic from electronic ballasts, perhaps googling will demonstrate.


--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Chris June 19th 18 11:37 PM

T5 kitchen lighting balast compatibilty
 
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 20:37:59 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

T5 HE and T5 HO tubes only run on electronic control gear. However,
since I don't know what your non-standard T5 tube is, I can't be sure
the same applies to that. The older T5 halophophate range could run on
magnetic ballasts, but they are rated 4,6,8,13W.


The 'new' one I want to fit was made in 2014 and is rated at 14W. The old
ones were all 20W rating.
The 'new' one runs straight off 240V so needs no fancy supply.


Brian Gaff June 20th 18 03:36 PM

T5 kitchen lighting balast compatibilty
 
Really, for small tubes is this really an issue? I'm sure I've mixed them in
the past with no real issues.
Brian

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On Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:49:19 UTC+1, Chris wrote:
Hi all,

I have a run of 3x20W fluorescent under-cabinet slimline strip lights;
only the middle one of which is still working. I was about to replace the
outer two when I read this warning at the bottom of the installation
sheet:

"These T5 luminaires must not be wired on the same circuit as standard
fluorescent fittings which use conventional low-loss magnetic ballasts."

How can I tell if the one remaining working one is of this type and is it
really important? It's been there since before I bought the place so at
least 7 years old.

ta!


the only reason to avoid that I can think of is inductive kickback. It's
easy to tell magnetic from electronic ballasts, perhaps googling will
demonstrate.


NT




Brian Gaff June 20th 18 03:38 PM

T5 kitchen lighting balast compatibilty
 
One ticks and the other sort of comes on slowly!
Brian

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On Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:49:19 UTC+1, Chris wrote:
Hi all,

I have a run of 3x20W fluorescent under-cabinet slimline strip lights;
only the middle one of which is still working. I was about to replace
the
outer two when I read this warning at the bottom of the installation
sheet:

"These T5 luminaires must not be wired on the same circuit as standard
fluorescent fittings which use conventional low-loss magnetic ballasts."

How can I tell if the one remaining working one is of this type and is
it
really important? It's been there since before I bought the place so at
least 7 years old.


20W is not a standard T5 tube rating.
T5 HE and T5 HO tubes only run on electronic control gear.
However, since I don't know what your non-standard T5 tube is, I
can't be sure the same applies to that. The older T5 halophophate
range could run on magnetic ballasts, but they are rated 4,6,8,13W.

the only reason to avoid that I can think of is inductive kickback. It's
easy to tell magnetic from electronic ballasts, perhaps googling will
demonstrate.


--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]




Brian Gaff June 20th 18 03:39 PM

T5 kitchen lighting balast compatibilty
 
Fancy supply, are you saying its a bit like a caravan one then, runs of low
voltage DC?
Brian

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 20:37:59 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

T5 HE and T5 HO tubes only run on electronic control gear. However,
since I don't know what your non-standard T5 tube is, I can't be sure
the same applies to that. The older T5 halophophate range could run on
magnetic ballasts, but they are rated 4,6,8,13W.


The 'new' one I want to fit was made in 2014 and is rated at 14W. The old
ones were all 20W rating.
The 'new' one runs straight off 240V so needs no fancy supply.





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