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Hello,
I'm working on replacing a lamp holder in the shade of a stainless steel angle lamp. Where the flat cable passes through the side of the shade was a plastic cable clamp which I had to cut off. I think it had been fitted using heat, as it gripped tight with no screw or other tightening method apparent. The clamp seemed to grip the shade by having expanded in the entry hole. Is there much hope of me finding such a clamp for sale? Or is there a heat resistant material to make one from, that's more suitable than Sugru? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:09:43 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
The clamp seemed to grip the shade by having expanded in the entry hole. Is there much hope of me finding such a clamp for sale? Something like this? http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/esb...ble/dp/CBASTR1 Owain |
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On 27/05/2018 16:45, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2018 08:00:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:09:43 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: The clamp seemed to grip the shade by having expanded in the entry hole. Is there much hope of me finding such a clamp for sale? Something like this? http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/esb...ble/dp/CBASTR1 Owain That's exactly it! Thanks a lot. That's the usual design, but for a semi-permanent fix I can't see anything wrong with using Sugru. I've also used hot-melt adhesive for this sort of thing in the past, especially in comparatively cool regions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Sun, 27 May 2018 20:23:53 +0100, newshound
wrote: On 27/05/2018 16:45, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 08:00:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:09:43 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: The clamp seemed to grip the shade by having expanded in the entry hole. Is there much hope of me finding such a clamp for sale? Something like this? http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/esb...ble/dp/CBASTR1 Owain That's exactly it! Thanks a lot. That's the usual design, but for a semi-permanent fix I can't see anything wrong with using Sugru. I've also used hot-melt adhesive for this sort of thing in the past, especially in comparatively cool regions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus I ordered some Sugru for the job initially, but as link to the real thing was kindly offered, I'll now be using the Sugru to make a knob for the kettle whistle. -- Mike |
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Mike Halmarack wrote: Where the flat cable passes through the side of the shade was a plastic cable clamp which I had to cut off. I think it had been fitted using heat, as it gripped tight with no screw or other tightening method apparent. You can buy screw less ones which compress against the cable to fit a shaped hole, then expand to grip that hole. Maplin used to sell them. But a gland type is probably easier. Available in a variety of sizes. Factory made stuff often had moulded on things which can't be re-used - like 13 amp plugs. -- *Time is what keeps everything from happening at once. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Mon, 28 May 2018 16:12:02 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Mike Halmarack wrote: Where the flat cable passes through the side of the shade was a plastic cable clamp which I had to cut off. I think it had been fitted using heat, as it gripped tight with no screw or other tightening method apparent. You can buy screw less ones which compress against the cable to fit a shaped hole, then expand to grip that hole. That sounds easy to apply, though on closer inspection the link Owain sent showed exactly the same object that I cut out. Maplin used to sell them. But a gland type is probably easier. Available in a variety of sizes. Might pop into Maplins then, they still seem quite busy around these parts. Factory made stuff often had moulded on things which can't be re-used - like 13 amp plugs. Yes I keep finding loads of those when I'm looking for a replacement. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2018 20:23:53 +0100, newshound wrote: On 27/05/2018 16:45, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 08:00:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:09:43 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: The clamp seemed to grip the shade by having expanded in the entry hole. Is there much hope of me finding such a clamp for sale? Something like this? http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/esb...8-7-4mm-cable/ dp/CBASTR1 Owain That's exactly it! Thanks a lot. That's the usual design, but for a semi-permanent fix I can't see anything wrong with using Sugru. I've also used hot-melt adhesive for this sort of thing in the past, especially in comparatively cool regions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus I ordered some Sugru for the job initially, but as link to the real thing was kindly offered, I'll now be using the Sugru to make a knob for the kettle whistle. These types of bush have 2 or 3 hole size variants (mainly 12mm, 12.7mm and ?15mm main diameter with flat sides) and even more cable size variants, including one for *flat* cable rather than round. They can be bodged but the right size is easier. -- Roger Hayter |
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Mike Halmarack wrote: On Mon, 28 May 2018 16:12:02 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Mike Halmarack wrote: Where the flat cable passes through the side of the shade was a plastic cable clamp which I had to cut off. I think it had been fitted using heat, as it gripped tight with no screw or other tightening method apparent. You can buy screw less ones which compress against the cable to fit a shaped hole, then expand to grip that hole. That sounds easy to apply, though on closer inspection the link Owain sent showed exactly the same object that I cut out. Maplin used to sell them. But a gland type is probably easier. Available in a variety of sizes. Might pop into Maplins then, they still seem quite busy around these parts. The thing with the Maplin type - I've still got a few - is that it requires exactly the right hole in the panel to work, and the hole isn't round (to stop it rotating) So I tend to prefer the gland type where a backing nut holds it in place. Although those can also have flats in the hole to prevent rotation if the nut comes loose. Factory made stuff often had moulded on things which can't be re-used - like 13 amp plugs. Yes I keep finding loads of those when I'm looking for a replacement. -- *When blondes have more fun, do they know it? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tue, 29 May 2018 08:44:02 +0100, (Roger Hayter)
wrote: Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 20:23:53 +0100, newshound wrote: On 27/05/2018 16:45, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 08:00:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:09:43 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: The clamp seemed to grip the shade by having expanded in the entry hole. Is there much hope of me finding such a clamp for sale? Something like this? http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/esb...8-7-4mm-cable/ dp/CBASTR1 Owain That's exactly it! Thanks a lot. That's the usual design, but for a semi-permanent fix I can't see anything wrong with using Sugru. I've also used hot-melt adhesive for this sort of thing in the past, especially in comparatively cool regions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus I ordered some Sugru for the job initially, but as link to the real thing was kindly offered, I'll now be using the Sugru to make a knob for the kettle whistle. These types of bush have 2 or 3 hole size variants (mainly 12mm, 12.7mm and ?15mm main diameter with flat sides) and even more cable size variants, including one for *flat* cable rather than round. They can be bodged but the right size is easier. Yes, a few more complications to deal with. Thanks for helping me avoid tose pitfalls. -- Mike |
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On Tue, 29 May 2018 10:40:14 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Mike Halmarack wrote: On Mon, 28 May 2018 16:12:02 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Mike Halmarack wrote: Where the flat cable passes through the side of the shade was a plastic cable clamp which I had to cut off. I think it had been fitted using heat, as it gripped tight with no screw or other tightening method apparent. You can buy screw less ones which compress against the cable to fit a shaped hole, then expand to grip that hole. That sounds easy to apply, though on closer inspection the link Owain sent showed exactly the same object that I cut out. Maplin used to sell them. But a gland type is probably easier. Available in a variety of sizes. Might pop into Maplins then, they still seem quite busy around these parts. The thing with the Maplin type - I've still got a few - is that it requires exactly the right hole in the panel to work, and the hole isn't round (to stop it rotating) So I tend to prefer the gland type where a backing nut holds it in place. Although those can also have flats in the hole to prevent rotation if the nut comes loose. Would the backing nut be on the outside? Not much room inside. Factory made stuff often had moulded on things which can't be re-used - like 13 amp plugs. Yes I keep finding loads of those when I'm looking for a replacement. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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says... Might pop into Maplins then, they still seem quite busy around these parts. Ah well, you're nowhere near me, then, because our Maplin store closed months ago - I didn't even know there were any left! Otherwise I'm sure I've got a box of 13A to hot condition connectors in the garage, more than I will ever need. -- Terry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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![]() Terry Casey wrote: our Maplin store closed months ago - I didn't even know there were any left! They were still open, back in May. |
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