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Jim K[_3_] May 6th 18 11:21 AM

Garage door openers, manual release mechanisms...
 
How are electric garage door opener manual release mechanisms operated?

I want to fit one but I don't have a pedestrian access door in the
garage, so hoping there's a workaround for when sod
strikes?

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Tufnell Park May 6th 18 11:36 AM

Garage door openers, manual release mechanisms...
 
On 06/05/2018 10:58, Jim K wrote:
How are electric garage door opener manual release mechanisms operated?

I want to fit one but I don't have a pedestrian access door in the
garage, so hoping there's a workaround for when sod
strikes?


They are usually a pull cord which disengages the electric opening
mechanism but are normally inside the garage for obvious security reasons.

Harry Bloomfield[_3_] May 6th 18 12:05 PM

Garage door openers, manual release mechanisms...
 
Jim K submitted this idea :
How are electric garage door opener manual release mechanisms operated?

I want to fit one but I don't have a pedestrian access door in the
garage, so hoping there's a workaround for when sod
strikes?


It depends upon the type of door, but...

My electric roller shutter type, has a loop at one end of the roll,
into which a crank handle can be hook to manually wind it open or
closed. I have that door, plus a small side door and a third slightly
larger at the rear, so no need to be able to wind the roller from
outside. Where the roller is the only door, they do an extra kit, which
takes the winding mechanism through a wall, so a crank handle can be
used from outside.

pinnerite May 6th 18 12:33 PM

Garage door openers, manual release mechanisms...
 
Tufnell Park wrote:

On 06/05/2018 10:58, Jim K wrote:
How are electric garage door opener manual release mechanisms operated?

I want to fit one but I don't have a pedestrian access door in the
garage, so hoping there's a workaround for when sod
strikes?


They are usually a pull cord which disengages the electric opening
mechanism but are normally inside the garage for obvious security reasons.


But with an up-and-over door, you can damage yourself trying to tug them
open.

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Brian Gaff May 6th 18 01:51 PM

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Really? How come you do not have a door, I've yet to see one without one,
its surely a safety thing if nothing else.
Brian

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How are electric garage door opener manual release mechanisms operated?

I want to fit one but I don't have a pedestrian access door in the
garage, so hoping there's a workaround for when sod
strikes?

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Brian Gaff May 6th 18 01:52 PM

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Which was my point exactly. I'd suggest you need a door in your garage, was
this a self assembly one, maybe they forgot to send you the side with a door
in it.
Brian

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On 06/05/2018 10:58, Jim K wrote:
How are electric garage door opener manual release mechanisms operated?

I want to fit one but I don't have a pedestrian access door in the
garage, so hoping there's a workaround for when sod
strikes?


They are usually a pull cord which disengages the electric opening
mechanism but are normally inside the garage for obvious security reasons.




Jim K[_3_] May 6th 18 02:21 PM

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Yes really ??

What about those delightful local authority blocks of garages
Brian? Do they all have a pedestrian door?

And no, mine's not one of those, mine's an ancient conversion of
old farm buildings, with no pedestrian door hence the
question...


"Brian Gaff" Wrote in message:
Really? How come you do not have a door, I've yet to see one without one,
its surely a safety thing if nothing else.
Brian

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How are electric garage door opener manual release mechanisms operated?

I want to fit one but I don't have a pedestrian access door in the
garage, so hoping there's a workaround for when sod
strikes?

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Chris Green May 6th 18 04:07 PM

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Jim K wrote:
Yes really ??

What about those delightful local authority blocks of garages
Brian? Do they all have a pedestrian door?

And no, mine's not one of those, mine's an ancient conversion of
old farm buildings, with no pedestrian door hence the
question...

Quite common, the garages under a flat we own in Barnet have only the
up-and-over door, no other means of access. All my garages (yes, I
have a ridiculous number of them) that I've fitted automatic openers
to have alternative access though. The instructions do warn of the
problem if you don't!

I think it's *possible* to have some means of access that doesn't
require power but it will reduce the security somewhat. It depends
really if the opener is just a convenience for when you arrive with
the car and nothing of value is kept in the garage then some sort of
manual access would be OK.

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Tim Lamb[_2_] May 6th 18 04:19 PM

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In message , Harry Bloomfield
writes
Jim K submitted this idea :
How are electric garage door opener manual release mechanisms operated?

I want to fit one but I don't have a pedestrian access door in the
garage, so hoping there's a workaround for when sod
strikes?


It depends upon the type of door, but...

My electric roller shutter type, has a loop at one end of the roll,
into which a crank handle can be hook to manually wind it open or
closed. I have that door, plus a small side door and a third slightly
larger at the rear, so no need to be able to wind the roller from
outside. Where the roller is the only door, they do an extra kit, which
takes the winding mechanism through a wall, so a crank handle can be
used from outside.


That is what we have. Key release on the external crank access. Very low
geared so it only opens slowly.

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Harry Bloomfield[_3_] May 6th 18 04:31 PM

Garage door openers, manual release mechanisms...
 
Tim Lamb formulated on Sunday :
That is what we have. Key release on the external crank access. Very low
geared so it only opens slowly.


Mine is painfully slow to hand crank too, but fine when powered. I only
found out how slow when I tried it out of curiosity, luckily I have
never had a failure. I suppose if I lost power often, I would either
make a battery backup system (it is 24v DC), or make an attachment to
fit my battery drill to crank it.

Bill[_18_] May 6th 18 04:41 PM

Garage door openers, manual release mechanisms...
 
In message , Tim Lamb
writes
That is what we have. Key release on the external crank access. Very
low geared so it only opens slowly.


Been there, done that at son's house, when taking delivery of some
building materials for him.

I wound and wound, sweat dripping, while the driver looked more and more
irate. I got it to where we could poke stuff under the door. He went and
I had to wind it down.
It's a large double garage.
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Steve[_84_] May 6th 18 07:37 PM

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On Sun, 06 May 2018 16:31:18 +0100
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Tim Lamb formulated on Sunday :
That is what we have. Key release on the external crank access.
Very low geared so it only opens slowly.


Mine is painfully slow to hand crank too, but fine when powered. I
only found out how slow when I tried it out of curiosity, luckily I
have never had a failure. I suppose if I lost power often, I would
either make a battery backup system (it is 24v DC), or make an
attachment to fit my battery drill to crank it.


I've cranked them with an Allen key in a cordless drill.



Tim Lamb[_2_] May 6th 18 08:58 PM

Garage door openers, manual release mechanisms...
 
In message , Steve
writes
On Sun, 06 May 2018 16:31:18 +0100
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Tim Lamb formulated on Sunday :
That is what we have. Key release on the external crank access.
Very low geared so it only opens slowly.


Mine is painfully slow to hand crank too, but fine when powered. I
only found out how slow when I tried it out of curiosity, luckily I
have never had a failure. I suppose if I lost power often, I would
either make a battery backup system (it is 24v DC), or make an
attachment to fit my battery drill to crank it.


I've cranked them with an Allen key in a cordless drill.


Mine is 6.4mm 1/4"? square section and about 18" long. I suppose they
have to consider cavity wall thickness for built in jobs.

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[email protected] May 6th 18 10:17 PM

Garage door openers, manual release mechanisms...
 
My one has the pull chord inside the garage which disconnects the door from the motor driven thread enabling you to push the door open. If your garage door has one of those locking handles which rotates moving bars out to lock into the frame..... Maybe you could disconnect the bars and the connect the chord to the mechanism that turns. When locked from outside it does nothing. When unlocked from outside and turned it pulls the chord and disconnects the door for you.

Broadback[_3_] May 7th 18 08:02 AM

Garage door openers, manual release mechanisms...
 
On 06/05/2018 22:17, wrote:
My one has the pull chord inside the garage which disconnects the door from the motor driven thread enabling you to push the door open. If your garage door has one of those locking handles which rotates moving bars out to lock into the frame..... Maybe you could disconnect the bars and the connect the chord to the mechanism that turns. When locked from outside it does nothing. When unlocked from outside and turned it pulls the chord and disconnects the door for you.

I had this problem. First there was a release mechanism installed such
that using a key to unlock the handle also disengaged the mechanism.
Then this failed is was replaced by drilling a hole in the door then
inserting a keyed plug, which when released disconnected the mechanism.
Inside (in case you get trapped inside) there is a pull cord that
releases it. Quite straightforward, though difficult to explain. If you
live within easy reach of North Staffordshire you can come and examine
mine. Garage that is. ;-))


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