I need to plaster up a section of wall approx 6 foot high by 6 inch wide.
The previous occupiers had a cupboard standing in front of it. !!
The wall is a 'dot & dab construction'. This section was obviously knocked
out to put in a 10mm2 cable for a shower. What is the best type of (DIY)
plaster to use and can I just 'clag it on' over the T&E cable? I am not too
bothered about having a perfect finish as the wall is going to be
wallpapered after.

TIA

John

John wrote:

I need to plaster up a section of wall approx 6 foot high by 6 inch wide.
The previous occupiers had a cupboard standing in front of it. !!
The wall is a 'dot & dab construction'. This section was obviously knocked
out to put in a 10mm2 cable for a shower. What is the best type of (DIY)
plaster to use and can I just 'clag it on' over the T&E cable? I am not too
bothered about having a perfect finish as the wall is going to be
wallpapered after.

One-coat is great for this kind of thing - you can fill pretty much as
deep as you want. To get a nice finish, unless you are a well practiced
plasterer I suggest you use a fine skim of polyfiller, sanded smooth
when set. So fill most of the gap with one shot of one coat, leaving it
2-3mm below the finished level, then finish off with polyfiller.

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Grunff

"Grunff" wrote in message
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John wrote:

I need to plaster up a section of wall approx 6 foot high by 6 inch
wide.
The previous occupiers had a cupboard standing in front of it. !!
The wall is a 'dot & dab construction'. This section was obviously
knocked
out to put in a 10mm2 cable for a shower. What is the best type of
(DIY)
plaster to use and can I just 'clag it on' over the T&E cable? I am not
too
bothered about having a perfect finish as the wall is going to be
wallpapered after.

One-coat is great for this kind of thing - you can fill pretty much as
deep as you want. To get a nice finish, unless you are a well practiced
plasterer I suggest you use a fine skim of polyfiller, sanded smooth
when set. So fill most of the gap with one shot of one coat, leaving it
2-3mm below the finished level, then finish off with polyfiller.

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Grunff

That's a lot polyfiller in it. (

"John" wrote in message
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I need to plaster up a section of wall approx 6 foot high by 6 inch wide.
The previous occupiers had a cupboard standing in front of it. !!
The wall is a 'dot & dab construction'. This section was obviously
knocked
out to put in a 10mm2 cable for a shower. What is the best type of (DIY)
plaster to use and can I just 'clag it on' over the T&E cable? I am not
too
bothered about having a perfect finish as the wall is going to be
wallpapered after.

TIA

John



Multi finish is the most widely used plaster.

Grouch

Grouch wrote:

Multi finish is the most widely used plaster.

Erm, yes, but can only be applied in very thin layers!

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Grunff

Grouch wrote:

One-coat is great for this kind of thing - you can fill pretty much as
deep as you want. To get a nice finish, unless you are a well practiced
plasterer I suggest you use a fine skim of polyfiller, sanded smooth
when set. So fill most of the gap with one shot of one coat, leaving it
2-3mm below the finished level, then finish off with polyfiller.

That's a lot polyfiller in it. (

A 2-3mm layer? Not really, a couple of boxes will be plenty.

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Grunff

Grouch wrote:

Eh!!

How eloquent!

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Grunff

"Grunff" wrote in message
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Grouch wrote:

Multi finish is the most widely used plaster.

Erm, yes, but can only be applied in very thin layers!

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Grunff


Eh!!

Grouch

One coat best bet, slap it on, leave for about 30-40 min give it a wet brush
and smooth off.

Dave

In message , Grunff
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John wrote:

I need to plaster up a section of wall approx 6 foot high by 6 inch wide.
The previous occupiers had a cupboard standing in front of it. !!
The wall is a 'dot & dab construction'. This section was obviously knocked
out to put in a 10mm2 cable for a shower. What is the best type of (DIY)
plaster to use and can I just 'clag it on' over the T&E cable? I am not too
bothered about having a perfect finish as the wall is going to be
wallpapered after.

One-coat is great for this kind of thing - you can fill pretty much as
deep as you want. To get a nice finish, unless you are a well practiced
plasterer I suggest you use a fine skim of polyfiller, sanded smooth
when set. So fill most of the gap with one shot of one coat, leaving it
2-3mm below the finished level, then finish off with polyfiller.

Sounds a reasonable suggestion, this is more like a large filing job
than replastering. by the time you've fussed about getting a smooth
finish with plaster you could have it sanded down smooth.

Re the cable. where exactly is it in the room. If it is running to/from
an electrical fitting then fine, though you could cover with plastic
capping if you want.

if it just say running up from the under the floor to upstairs then it
really should be within 150mm of the corner of the room. If not then it
should be put in metal conduit. (or moved)
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Chris French, Leeds

John Stumbles wrote:

Even so I'd splash out £10 on a bag of Easyfill (the green bag/white powder,
not the gypsum-based stuff). Then you'll have a good supply of filler left
over for all those other jobs.

I've not tried that - how well does it sand?

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Grunff

John Stumbles wrote in message ...
I'm sure it's the same stuff as polyfilla/tetrion etc in a more economical
pack!
I've tried all sorts as a Polyfilla substitute, Gyproc gap filler, Artex,
and various special plasters. Nothing quite matches it for fineness and
adhesion.

"Grunff" wrote in message
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Grouch wrote:

One-coat is great for this kind of thing - you can fill pretty much as
deep as you want. To get a nice finish, unless you are a well practiced
plasterer I suggest you use a fine skim of polyfiller, sanded smooth
when set. So fill most of the gap with one shot of one coat, leaving it
2-3mm below the finished level, then finish off with polyfiller.

That's a lot polyfiller in it. (

A 2-3mm layer? Not really, a couple of boxes will be plenty.

Even so I'd splash out £10 on a bag of Easyfill (the green bag/white powder,
not the gypsum-based stuff). Then you'll have a good supply of filler left
over for all those other jobs. The other stuff I've found good was B&Q
own-brand coving adhesive (dry, in bags). I had a few bags left over from
coving and found it as good as aby polyfiller/tetrion-type stuff. However
they seem to have discontinued it.

"Grunff" wrote in message
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John Stumbles wrote:

Even so I'd splash out £10 on a bag of Easyfill (the green bag/white
powder,
not the gypsum-based stuff). Then you'll have a good supply of filler
left
over for all those other jobs.

I've not tried that - how well does it sand?

Makes a lot of very fine dust, but with a bit of luck you don't need to :-)

I'm sure it's the same stuff as polyfilla/tetrion etc in a more economical
pack!

"Grunff" wrote in message


The idea of finishing plaster is to give a finer finish than sand and
cement. It also works out the blemishes. However it does shrink on
drying. This is OK on a whole wall but you will notice it if you just
fill a patch. You can put it on quite thick but if you want to do more
than 1/4 inch layer at a time you should use bonding or put something in
the skim to stop it overheating. Sand or sawdust will do.

You have to cover the wires with some shiedling so use a lot of layers
with the skim. Don't decorate until you are satisfied it will not
she#rink further.


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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
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fill a patch. You can put it on quite thick but if you want to do more
than 1/4 inch layer at a time you should use bonding or put something in
the skim to stop it overheating. Sand or sawdust will do.

The sand leaves an interesting effect if you are not careful with
washing out the bucket etc.

Anyone want to try a finish that is rustic and interesting? Put an
handful of brick sand in each bucket they mix.


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Michael Mcneil writes
"Grunff" wrote in message


The idea of finishing plaster is to give a finer finish than sand and
cement. It also works out the blemishes. However it does shrink on
drying. This is OK on a whole wall but you will notice it if you just
fill a patch. You can put it on quite thick but if you want to do more
than 1/4 inch layer at a time you should use bonding or put something in
the skim to stop it overheating. Sand or sawdust will do.

Mores sensible is to use something designed for filling deeper holes -
mortar, basecoat plaster, onecoat plaster etc.

You have to cover the wires with some shiedling

You don't have to, you can if you want.

so use a lot of layers
with the skim. Don't decorate until you are satisfied it will not
she#rink further.

If you fill the hole properly then shrinking will not be a problem.

Grunf's suggestion seems the best so far. Though if I was to do the job
I'd probably use sand and cement for dilling the whole co's I have
plenty.
--
Chris French, Leeds

Michael McNeil wrote in message
Anyone want to try a finish that is rustic and interesting? Put an
handful of brick sand in each bucket they mix.
I would think brick dust would accelerate the drying somewhat by chemical
reaction.

"stuart noble" wrote in message ...
John Stumbles wrote in message ...
I'm sure it's the same stuff as polyfilla/tetrion etc in a more economical
pack!
I've tried all sorts as a Polyfilla substitute, Gyproc gap filler, Artex,
and various special plasters. Nothing quite matches it for fineness and
adhesion.

There is one thing thats better than poly: rice powder. Yes, rice
powder. It works 2 ways.

Mix it stiff and it fills big holes in one go, its stiff enough to
hold its shape unlike poly. When mixed stiff it gives a rough finish.

Mix it wet and you get a fine finish, but it can only be used a few mm
deep in wet mode, else it shrinks and cracks.


Regards, NT

"Grunff" wrote in message
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John Stumbles wrote:

Even so I'd splash out £10 on a bag of Easyfill (the green bag/white
powder,
not the gypsum-based stuff). Then you'll have a good supply of filler
left
over for all those other jobs.

I've not tried that - how well does it sand?

Very well. But we're getting a lot better at not needing too.

I've tried all sorts as a Polyfilla substitute, Gyproc gap filler, Artex,
and various special plasters. Nothing quite matches it for fineness and
adhesion.

There is one thing thats better than poly: rice powder. Yes, rice
powder. It works 2 ways.
Mix it wet and you get a fine finish, but it can only be used a few mm
deep in wet mode, else it shrinks and cracks.
But filler doesn't shrink and crack. I really can't see these Blue Peter
recipes have any relevance here. Too soft, will grow mould at the first sign
of damp, will gum up sandpaper, too absorbent to take a finish, and probably
dearer than filler.