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I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF).
Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? -- Why is the front of an aeroplane called a cockpit? If you have female pilots do you call it a pussypit? |
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Now how did I guess it was you before i listened to the sender.
I think really unlikely the gas will freeze but the earth can and fracture gas pipes. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message news ![]() I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? -- Why is the front of an aeroplane called a cockpit? If you have female pilots do you call it a pussypit? |
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:01:27 +0100, Brian Gaff, the obviously mentally
deficient, troll-feeding moron, blathered again: Now how did I guess it was you before i listened to the sender. That's because trolls and their troll-feeding idiots enjoy some sort of "symbiotic" relation****, troll-feeding idiot! FLUSH the rest of your troll-fodder |
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I still can't see that as something the average EDF customer would worry about.
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:01:27 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote: Now how did I guess it was you before i listened to the sender. I think really unlikely the gas will freeze but the earth can and fracture gas pipes. Brian -- Advice given to RAF pilots during WWII: "When a prang seems inevitable, endeavour to strike the softest, cheapest object in the vicinity as slowly and gently as possible." |
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On 26/04/2018 15:13, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? A lot lower than the moisture in it. -- -- Colin Bignell |
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:06:15 +0100, Nightjar, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding idiot, blathered: A lot lower than the moisture in it. The retarded troll thanks you for the attention you gave him, troll-feeding idiot! |
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:06:15 +0100, Nightjar wrote:
On 26/04/2018 15:13, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? A lot lower than the moisture in it. Should there be moisture in it? -- For centuries, the English have had a love affair with all types of hunting. Early one morning, a fellow was blasting away at a clump of brush on a grouse hunt. Suddenly an outraged gentleman appeared and said "See here old man, you almost shot my wife with that volley." The hunter, properly shamed replied, "So sorry old chap. Here, have a go at mine, over there." |
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There is always some moisture in gas. However, not a lot. However when gas
pipes of an older type run through clay, often they can rust and have holes, and moisture gets in even though the clay is so dense the supply continues. If you look at council web sites around the country especially in the SE, you will find a huge program of gas main replacement to cope with the pipe issues. This is being done around here by Southern Gas Networks and according to the blokes doing it rusty leaky pipes have been in use for years, Indeed I have no gas in my house so when it came to attempting to put their pretty yellow pipes through the old ones they found many house spurs had in fact completely rusted through. They just plugged up mine as I did not have any gas devices. However they did give me a bit of the pipe and it was wafer thin in places and mostly made of rust. The use was built in 1939, so you can see how bad older pipes might be. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:06:15 +0100, Nightjar wrote: On 26/04/2018 15:13, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? A lot lower than the moisture in it. Should there be moisture in it? -- For centuries, the English have had a love affair with all types of hunting. Early one morning, a fellow was blasting away at a clump of brush on a grouse hunt. Suddenly an outraged gentleman appeared and said "See here old man, you almost shot my wife with that volley." The hunter, properly shamed replied, "So sorry old chap. Here, have a go at mine, over there." |
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 09:32:39 +0100, Brian Gaff, the obviously mentally
deficient, troll-feeding moron, blathered again: There is always some moisture in gas. There is obviously too much of that in your head, troll-feeding moron! |
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There's certainly been a lot of gas mains replaced around here in central Scotland recently. I just assumed they were old and rusty, or getting damaged by vibrations from traffic.
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 09:32:39 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote: There is always some moisture in gas. However, not a lot. However when gas pipes of an older type run through clay, often they can rust and have holes, and moisture gets in even though the clay is so dense the supply continues. If you look at council web sites around the country especially in the SE, you will find a huge program of gas main replacement to cope with the pipe issues. This is being done around here by Southern Gas Networks and according to the blokes doing it rusty leaky pipes have been in use for years, Indeed I have no gas in my house so when it came to attempting to put their pretty yellow pipes through the old ones they found many house spurs had in fact completely rusted through. They just plugged up mine as I did not have any gas devices. However they did give me a bit of the pipe and it was wafer thin in places and mostly made of rust. The use was built in 1939, so you can see how bad older pipes might be. Brian -- A bird in the hand is always greener than the grass under the other guy's bushes. |
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On 26/04/2018 17:06, Nightjar wrote:
On 26/04/2018 15:13, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? A lot lower than the moisture in it. How much moisture is there in the gas supply? Are we talking about hours to ice up a pipe, or months? |
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On 04/27/2018 07:13 AM, GB wrote:
On 26/04/2018 17:06, Nightjar wrote: On 26/04/2018 15:13, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? A lot lower than the moisture in it. How much moisture is there in the gas supply? Are we talking about hours to ice up a pipe, or months? I had a NG regulator (before the meter) freeze and stop the flow of NG.* Fix was to slowly pour hot water over it. |
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On 27/04/2018 12:13, GB wrote:
On 26/04/2018 17:06, Nightjar wrote: On 26/04/2018 15:13, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? A lot lower than the moisture in it. How much moisture is there in the gas supply? Are we talking about hours to ice up a pipe, or months? No idea. I only know that some is expected. -- -- Colin Bignell |
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:31:49 +0100, Nightjar wrote:
On 27/04/2018 12:13, GB wrote: On 26/04/2018 17:06, Nightjar wrote: On 26/04/2018 15:13, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? A lot lower than the moisture in it. How much moisture is there in the gas supply? Are we talking about hours to ice up a pipe, or months? No idea. I only know that some is expected. Water is a ****ing nuisance and should be outlawed. -- "Click cancel to discontinue starting" - Mac OS 9 |
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On 04/29/2018 07:30 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
[snip] Water is a ****ing nuisance and should be outlawed. "Its a byproduct of many industrial processes. It gets in our lakes and rivers. Anyone who has contact with it dies." |
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 13:30:20 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again: Water is a ****ing nuisance and should be outlawed. You are talking about yourself, sociopathic cretin. -- Gay ****** Birdbrain (now "James Wilkinson") even better at ****ting than everyone else (LOL): "Funny how mine [his ****] just comes out as soon as I've been sat for 5 seconds. Seriously, I think you oughta see a doctor." Message-ID: |
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On 4/26/2018 10:13 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? Water can get into gas pipes and accumulate in low spots. Just as piping has a drip let at vertical elbows. |
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:25:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski, the notorious,
troll-feeding retard, blabbered: Water can get into gas pipes and accumulate in low spots. Just as piping has a drip let at vertical elbows. And troll-feeding idiot no.2 couldn't resist the abnormal Scottish sow's latest idiotic bait! G |
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 03:25:07 +0100, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/26/2018 10:13 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? Water can get into gas pipes and accumulate in low spots. Just as piping has a drip let at vertical elbows. How does it let water out but not gas? -- Man who walk through turnstyle sideways going to bangkok! |
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On 4/28/2018 11:49 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 03:25:07 +0100, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 4/26/2018 10:13 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: I just spotted a "What to do if your gas pipes are frozen" on my electricity/gas supply company's website (EDF). Remind me, at what temperature does methane freeze? Water can get into gas pipes and accumulate in low spots.* Just as piping has a drip let at vertical elbows. How does it let water out but not gas? I'm pretty sure Ed meant "leg" not "let"; it's just a collection point that keeps the condensate/entrained water have a place to go out of the main line into the appliance; not an automatic outlet. And, yes, gas supplies are _supposed_ to be essentially dry; it's an insurance policy for the inevitable case where for some reason some moisture is introduced into the system by whatever means; could be as simple as having to opened the system somewhere else for maintenance. Here, where many rural residences are on direct wellhead taps or a tap off of a collection line, it's a much bigger issue than "the gas company" commercial distribution most are undoubtedly thinking of, but still "stuff happens" even with them. -- |
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 13:01:04 -0500, dpb, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding Yankietard, blabbered: I'm pretty sure Ed meant "leg" not "let"; I'm pretty sure you are yet another needy, senile, troll-feeding Yankietard. |
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On 4/28/2018 2:01 PM, dpb wrote:
How does it let water out but not gas? I'm pretty sure Ed meant "leg" not "let"; it's just a collection point that keeps the condensate/entrained water have a place to go out of the main line into the appliance; not an automatic outlet. Correct. Instead of an elbow at 90 degree turn, they use a Tee and the bottom has a short nipple and cap. Traps anything moving in the pipe, liquid or solid. |
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 03:39:59 +0100, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/28/2018 2:01 PM, dpb wrote: How does it let water out but not gas? I'm pretty sure Ed meant "leg" not "let"; it's just a collection point that keeps the condensate/entrained water have a place to go out of the main line into the appliance; not an automatic outlet. Correct. Instead of an elbow at 90 degree turn, they use a Tee and the bottom has a short nipple and cap. Traps anything moving in the pipe, liquid or solid. I take it someone has to milk the nipple every so often. -- If only women came with pull-down menus and on-line help. |
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