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Now you be very careful and afeared of that new smart meter;!
Its out to fry yer brains;!! https://theecologist.org/2017/jun/06...on-and-health- why-are-we-neglecting-non-toxic-alternatives -- Tony Sayer |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:09:16 +0100, tony sayer wrote:
Its out to fry yer brains;!! https://theecologist.org/2017/jun/06...on-and-health- why-are-we-neglecting-non-toxic-alternatives Yes, I've come across a few people telling me this! -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 30/03/2018 23:24, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:09:16 +0100, tony sayer wrote: Its out to fry yer brains;!! https://theecologist.org/2017/jun/06...on-and-health- why-are-we-neglecting-non-toxic-alternatives Yes, I've come across a few people telling me this! The have a linked video showing how smart meter pulses effect the heart! or maybe..... how the pulses from a smart meter placed 1m away from the leads going to someone hooked up to a sensitive EKG machine can also be picked up by the machine? -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Is this the old problem of RF from mobile devices again, but from a smart
meter? There are ham radio operators all over the world chuckling. To be honest if you were daft enough to stand in line with a radar scanner then I'd expect issues, but in this case... really? if it puts out that much power then think of the cost to the suppliers of all that electricity they would be using in every house? Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "tony sayer" wrote in message ... Its out to fry yer brains;!! https://theecologist.org/2017/jun/06...on-and-health- why-are-we-neglecting-non-toxic-alternatives -- Tony Sayer |
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alan_m brought next idea :
or maybe..... how the pulses from a smart meter placed 1m away from the leads going to someone hooked up to a sensitive EKG machine can also be picked up by the machine? That last seems the much more likely.. |
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Brian Gaff submitted this idea :
To be honest if you were daft enough to stand in line with a radar scanner then I'd expect issues, but in this case... really? if it puts out that much power then think of the cost to the suppliers of all that electricity they would be using in every house? I don't believe there is a problem from the RF, but the RF and power used is a very short and intermitant pulse of energy and energy used. Remember, the gas meter uses a tiny battery to power the transmission and that has to last for many years. |
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Brian Gaff wrote:
Is this the old problem of RF from mobile devices again Well, it's the problem of nutters who fear any RF, at any power level, at any distance ... |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:35:30 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: Is this the old problem of RF from mobile devices again Well, it's the problem of nutters who fear any RF, at any power level, at any distance ... & use their mobile (or wifi linked iThing) to tell everyone about it Avpx -- "Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?" Economics explained (Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic) 10:00:01 up 1 day, 20:28, 10 users, load average: 0.81, 1.05, 1.10 |
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On 31/03/2018 09:35, Andy Burns wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote: Is this the old problem of RF from mobile devices again Well, it's the problem of nutters who fear any RF, at any power level, at any distance ... Consider if the EKG equipment is picking up the same magnitude of energy from the heart as from a smart meter there must be a much bigger risk when in close proximity to someone else. A night in bed with your partner could be fatal! -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:22:20 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
I think really people making stuff like pacemakers should have tested this sort of thing well in advance I don't know how long pacemakers last but some people must have quite old ones which predate smart meters. Owain |
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On 31/03/2018 09:35, Andy Burns wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote: Is this the old problem of RF from mobile devices again Well, it's the problem of nutters who fear any RF, at any power level, at any distance ... Mobile phones modulate their output power to the lowest level needed for communication. I believe this is why you should not use your phone in a plane, because it tries maximum power. Do smart meters carry out this same process ?. |
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Now you be very careful and afeared of that new smart meter;!
Andrew wrote:
Mobile phones modulate their output power to the lowest level needed for communication. I believe this is why you should not use your phone in a plane, because it tries maximum power. Do smart meters carry out this same process ?. Smart meters will use off-the-shelf transceiver modules (zigbee, wireless-mbus, sigfox, etc) which will use ISM frequencies at permitted power levels, if your stairlift can't cope with sharing the bandwidth with other devices, it's the stairlift's fault ... |
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Now you be very careful and afeared of that new smart meter;!
Andrew explained on 31/03/2018 :
Mobile phones modulate their output power to the lowest level needed for communication. I believe this is why you should not use your phone in a plane, because it tries maximum power. Do smart meters carry out this same process ?. Yes, exactly the same as a mobile phone would, but then not many people sit with a meter next to their brain all day and RF's effect follows the inverse square law. Those most vocal at complaining about mobile masts, are often the ones who make a lot of use of their mobiles. RF output from a phone is not much less than that from a mast, but they are quite happy to put the mobile next to their brain. The more masts there are, the less power the phone needs to use to communicate with it, the lower the risk - yet they complain about the health risks of living near a mast. |
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On 31/03/2018 12:55, S Viemeister wrote:
On 3/31/2018 6:39 AM, wrote: On Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:22:20 UTC+1, Brian GaffÂ* wrote: I think really people making stuff like pacemakers should have tested this sort of thing well in advance I don't know how long pacemakers last but some people must have quite old ones which predate smart meters. How long have smart meters been around? 11 years in the UK 10 years ago the USA had 2 million smart meters installed and currently has 70+ million. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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alan_m wrote:
10 years ago the USA had 2 million smart meters installed and currently has 70+ million. I understand the smart meters in the USA work differently, i.e. they have street/neighbourhood level mesh networking to allow them to be read without using mobile phone networks ... |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 13:23:28 +0100, alan_m wrote:
On 31/03/2018 12:55, S Viemeister wrote: On 3/31/2018 6:39 AM, wrote: On Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:22:20 UTC+1, Brian GaffÂ* wrote: I think really people making stuff like pacemakers should have tested this sort of thing well in advance I don't know how long pacemakers last but some people must have quite old ones which predate smart meters. How long have smart meters been around? 11 years in the UK 10 years ago the USA had 2 million smart meters installed and currently has 70+ million. OTOH, that could explain the election of Trump. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:35:30 +0100
Andy Burns wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: Is this the old problem of RF from mobile devices again Well, it's the problem of nutters who fear any RF, at any power level, at any distance ... Well it might explain why the hams are such an obnoxious wunch of bankers. |
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On 31/03/2018 00:15, alan_m wrote:
On 30/03/2018 23:24, Bob Eager wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:09:16 +0100, tony sayer wrote: Its out to fry yer brains;!! https://theecologist.org/2017/jun/06...on-and-health- why-are-we-neglecting-non-toxic-alternatives Yes, I've come across a few people telling me this! The have a linked video showing how smart meter pulses effect the heart! or maybe..... how the pulses from a smart meter placed 1m away from the leads going to someone hooked up to a sensitive EKG machine can also be picked up by the machine? Agreed. FFS I can't see them producing the sort of electromagnetic fields that you get from an arc welder. |
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