https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...esel-engine-UK

On 10/03/2018 09:41, harry wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...esel-engine-UK

Surely, a reduction in supply is only going to increase the value of any
diesel that you own. It's not as if garages are going to stop selling
the fuel, given the number of white vans around.

On 10/03/2018 10:39, newshound wrote:
On 10/03/2018 09:41, harry wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...esel-engine-UK


Surely, a reduction in supply is only going to increase the value of any
diesel that you own. It's not as if garages are going to stop selling
the fuel, given the number of white vans around.

The reduction in supply is due to reduction in demand - no-one in their
right mind will buy one so prices will go through the floor.

On 10/03/18 11:03, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 10/03/2018 10:39, newshound wrote:
On 10/03/2018 09:41, harry wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...esel-engine-UK



Surely, a reduction in supply is only going to increase the value of any
diesel that you own. It's not as if garages are going to stop selling
the fuel, given the number of white vans around.

The reduction in supply is due to reduction in demand - no-one in their
right mind will buy one so prices will go through the floor.

No oner will buy new ones, but old ones hold value


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On 10/03/2018 11:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No oner will buy new ones, but old ones hold value

As the evidence on health risks rises, there may come a time when the
govt. decides to price them off the road by hiking the road tax or
taxing diesel fuel.

On 10-Mar-18 11:59 AM, GB wrote:
On 10/03/2018 11:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No oner will buy new ones, but old ones hold value

As the evidence on health risks rises, there may come a time when the
govt. decides to price them off the road by hiking the road tax or
taxing diesel fuel.

Make diesel more expensive and the RPI goes up. Almost everything we buy
is moved by diesel powered commercial vehicles. In 2015, HGVs and vans
in the UK consumed 11.7 million tonnes of diesel fuel.


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On 10/03/18 11:59, GB wrote:
On 10/03/2018 11:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No oner will buy new ones, but old ones hold value

As the evidence on health risks rises, there may come a time when the
govt. decides to price them off the road by hiking the road tax or
taxing diesel fuel.


The evidence on health ri9sks hasnt chamged in 20 years.

What has changed is that cars are lasting too long and manufacturers
benefit from enforced scrappage







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In article , GB
wrote:

On 10/03/2018 11:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No oner will buy new ones, but old ones hold value

As the evidence on health risks rises, there may come a time when the
govt. decides to price them off the road by hiking the road tax or
taxing diesel fuel.

"They" would make a better start by

(a) identifying and then forcibly removing from the roads all the
thousands and thousands of crappy old vans and trucks which are
hammering around belching poison -- poisons which you can *see*. never
mind smell, and never mind the invisible "new" poisons that "they"
discovered in the last couple of years or so. (How do such vehicles
ever pass an MOT???)

and

(b) doing something to enable the heavy goods industry to stop using
diesel engines --- duh -- how you gonna manage *that*, ever, in this
century?? How many diesel cars is one diesel truck worth, in terms of
pollution?

John

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On 10/03/18 11:03, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 10/03/2018 10:39, newshound wrote:
On 10/03/2018 09:41, harry wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...esel-engine-UK


Surely, a reduction in supply is only going to increase the value of any
diesel that you own. It's not as if garages are going to stop selling
the fuel, given the number of white vans around.

The reduction in supply is due to reduction in demand - no-one in their
right mind will buy one so prices will go through the floor.

No oner will buy new ones, but old ones hold value

If it were not for the bad press that diesels have got recently and the fear
that some cities will ban them or make you pay extra, I'd definitely buy
another diesel. I much much prefer driving a diesel and I like the lower
fuel consumption and hence greater range on a tank of fuel.

My car is coming up to 10 years old and is starting to cost fir repairs to
the anti pollution system. I will be gutted when eventually have to get rid
if it and replace it with a petrol which is gutless and has a noisy high
revving engine (unless I get a powerful engine).

I wish electrics had advanced where they had the same 700 mile range and 5
minute refuel time as ICE cars. I mainly make fairly short journey nowadays
but no way would I get a car that didnt have the ability to make a longer
journey if i needed to eg if our main car was ever off the road or bith my
wife and i needed to make" long" (greater than 100 mile) journeys at the
same time.

On 10/03/2018 12:22, NY wrote:

My car is coming up to 10 years old and is starting to cost fir repairs
to the anti pollution system. I will be gutted when eventually have to
get rid if it and replace it with a petrol which is gutless and has a
noisy high revving engine (unless I get a powerful engine).

I would love to go back to a petrol engine.


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In article ,
NY wrote:
If it were not for the bad press that diesels have got recently and the fear
that some cities will ban them or make you pay extra, I'd definitely buy
another diesel. I much much prefer driving a diesel and I like the lower
fuel consumption and hence greater range on a tank of fuel.

That would easily be sorted by altering the tax paid on diesel and petrol,
in the favour of petrol.
And by buying a car with a large enough tank - just how far to you need to
drive before stopping for fuel?

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In article ,
NY wrote:
I wish electrics had advanced where they had the same 700 mile range

You'll actually drive 700 miles without a stop? Even at 70 mph, that is 10
hours solid driving. Most would expect to stop at least once in that time
for a comfort break and likely a meal. So could re-fuel then.

And if not doing a long journey silly to carry around a large amount of
fuel.

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On 10/03/18 11:03, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 10/03/2018 10:39, newshound wrote:
On 10/03/2018 09:41, harry wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...esel-engine-UK



Surely, a reduction in supply is only going to increase the value of any
diesel that you own. It's not as if garages are going to stop selling
the fuel, given the number of white vans around.

The reduction in supply is due to reduction in demand - no-one in their
right mind will buy one so prices will go through the floor.

Had to buy a diesel as it was the only decent engine available for the
car I wanted and I'll run it until it's dead. Next time around (which
will probably be the last time for me) it'll be electric, by which time
they should rock and have lots of choice.

I think though that the low emission zones being planned in many densely
populated parts of the country may well make them unaffordable.
Its all very stupid to me, as we all always knew, did we not that diesel
vehicles tend to kick out soot and fumes like crazy even with the new
gizmos fitted. The market was skewed their way and lots of people fell for
the marketing.

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On 10/03/2018 09:41, harry wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...esel-engine-UK

Surely, a reduction in supply is only going to increase the value of any
diesel that you own. It's not as if garages are going to stop selling the
fuel, given the number of white vans around.

On 10/03/2018 18:57, Brian Gaff wrote:
I think though that the low emission zones being planned in many densely
populated parts of the country may well make them unaffordable.
Its all very stupid to me, as we all always knew, did we not that diesel
vehicles tend to kick out soot and fumes like crazy even with the new
gizmos fitted. The market was skewed their way and lots of people fell for
the marketing.

Brian


Diesels do not chuck out loads of sh!t when the emission controls are
working.
They do chuck it out when the manufacturer turns them off or when some
arsehole fits an emission bypass part off ebay because they were stupid
enough to ignore the warnings.
The new MOT in May might catch a few of them.

On 3/10/2018 9:41 AM, harry wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...esel-engine-UK

good dirty dirty things ......

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 01:41:18 -0800, harry wrote:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...car-scrappage-
toyota-diesel-engine-UK

Daily ultra-reliable Express.

Toyota say they won't supply any more diesels.

"Toyota said it would continue to offer a handful of diesel engines, for
its Land Cruiser 4x4 and for some commercial vehicles such as the Hilux
and Proace."

So they are no longer offering diesels in smaller vehicles where petrol
and hybrid are good enough. For big load luggers (1 or 2 pallets) which
can tow 3.5 tonnes they seem to be staying with the high torque diesels.

Personal experience; sold our 2.3 litre petrol 240 bhp Volvo Estate (850R,
**** off a very well greased shovel) because although it had the power it
didn't have the weight to tow a 2 tonne caravan.

Bought a 3.5 litre 240 BHP VW Touareg because it did have the weight to
tow a caravan; it has a towing limit of 3.5 tonnes and unlike some others
can also be loaded to its GVW and tow a 3.5 tonne trailer all within the
maximum train weight. Like **** of a quite shiny shovel despite the
increased weight.

The VW is very relaxing to drive, and goes remarkably well when pulling
the caravan. Fit for the job.

During all the research there wasn't a petrol driven towing vehicle (4*4)
over 2 tonnes kerb weight which jumped out as a viable option. Most
options were diesel pick ups, estates or SUVs. Range Rover V8 might look
fun, but expensive to buy and expensive to run.

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

I did read that although the total carbon footprint of the UK is at its
lowest since the 1890s that CO2 from vehicles had started rising again,
possibly due to the increase in new sales of petrol vehicles. No hard
evidence offered, though.

Cheers



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On Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:25:05 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 01:41:18 -0800, harry wrote:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...car-scrappage-
toyota-diesel-engine-UK

Daily ultra-reliable Express.

Toyota say they won't supply any more diesels.

"Toyota said it would continue to offer a handful of diesel engines, for
its Land Cruiser 4x4 and for some commercial vehicles such as the Hilux
and Proace."

So they are no longer offering diesels in smaller vehicles where petrol
and hybrid are good enough. For big load luggers (1 or 2 pallets) which
can tow 3.5 tonnes they seem to be staying with the high torque diesels.

Personal experience; sold our 2.3 litre petrol 240 bhp Volvo Estate (850R,
**** off a very well greased shovel) because although it had the power it
didn't have the weight to tow a 2 tonne caravan.

Bought a 3.5 litre 240 BHP VW Touareg because it did have the weight to
tow a caravan; it has a towing limit of 3.5 tonnes and unlike some others
can also be loaded to its GVW and tow a 3.5 tonne trailer all within the
maximum train weight. Like **** of a quite shiny shovel despite the
increased weight.

The VW is very relaxing to drive, and goes remarkably well when pulling
the caravan. Fit for the job.

During all the research there wasn't a petrol driven towing vehicle (4*4)
over 2 tonnes kerb weight which jumped out as a viable option. Most
options were diesel pick ups, estates or SUVs. Range Rover V8 might look
fun, but expensive to buy and expensive to run.

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

I did read that although the total carbon footprint of the UK is at its
lowest since the 1890s that CO2 from vehicles had started rising again,
possibly due to the increase in new sales of petrol vehicles. No hard
evidence offered, though.

Cheers



Dave R

Drivel.
Only electric cars will be made.
Have you forgotten already?

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On Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:25:05 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 01:41:18 -0800, harry wrote:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...car-scrappage-
toyota-diesel-engine-UK

Daily ultra-reliable Express.

Toyota say they won't supply any more diesels.

"Toyota said it would continue to offer a handful of diesel engines, for
its Land Cruiser 4x4 and for some commercial vehicles such as the Hilux
and Proace."

So they are no longer offering diesels in smaller vehicles where petrol
and hybrid are good enough. For big load luggers (1 or 2 pallets) which
can tow 3.5 tonnes they seem to be staying with the high torque diesels.

Personal experience; sold our 2.3 litre petrol 240 bhp Volvo Estate
(850R,
**** off a very well greased shovel) because although it had the power it
didn't have the weight to tow a 2 tonne caravan.

Bought a 3.5 litre 240 BHP VW Touareg because it did have the weight to
tow a caravan; it has a towing limit of 3.5 tonnes and unlike some others
can also be loaded to its GVW and tow a 3.5 tonne trailer all within the
maximum train weight. Like **** of a quite shiny shovel despite the
increased weight.

The VW is very relaxing to drive, and goes remarkably well when pulling
the caravan. Fit for the job.

During all the research there wasn't a petrol driven towing vehicle (4*4)
over 2 tonnes kerb weight which jumped out as a viable option. Most
options were diesel pick ups, estates or SUVs. Range Rover V8 might look
fun, but expensive to buy and expensive to run.

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

I did read that although the total carbon footprint of the UK is at its
lowest since the 1890s that CO2 from vehicles had started rising again,
possibly due to the increase in new sales of petrol vehicles. No hard
evidence offered, though.

Cheers



Dave R

Drivel.
Only electric cars will be made.

until they find out that's an unobtainable expectation

tim

In article ,
David wrote:
The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

Petrol engines are at their worst efficiency wise when doing stop start
journeys. At cruise, nothing like the same difference between petrol and
diesel. And diesel can become less efficient when thrashed.

Hybrid technology gets round the problem of poor efficiency in stop start
conditions.

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On Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:41:58 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

Petrol engines are at their worst efficiency wise when doing stop start
journeys.

all engines are

At cruise, nothing like the same difference between petrol and
diesel. And diesel can become less efficient when thrashed.

all engines do

Hybrid technology gets round the problem of poor efficiency in stop start
conditions.

does it? The Toyota Priapus gets worse combined cycle mpg than a straight engine.


NT

In article ,
wrote:
Hybrid technology gets round the problem of poor efficiency in stop start
conditions.

does it? The Toyota Priapus gets worse combined cycle mpg than a straight engine.

You don't seriously believe official tests?

All hybrids do well in stop start conditions. The whole reason for them.
They're totally pointless at cruise.

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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
wrote:
Hybrid technology gets round the problem of poor efficiency in stop start
conditions.

does it? The Toyota Priapus gets worse combined cycle mpg than a
straight engine.

You don't seriously believe official tests?

All hybrids do well in stop start conditions. The whole reason for them.
They're totally pointless at cruise.

I have no experience with hybrids, but something with a reasonable sized
battery and on-board diesel engine to charge it seems possible way to
go. The diesel could perhaps be designed to run at a constant maximum
efficiency and have appropriate cleaning add-ons if necessary.

All I know is that my diesel vehicles use massively less fuel under
long-stop start conditions than any petrol vehicles I've had. It's a
huge difference and I do wonder what the petrol engines were throwing
out in the way of un or partly burnt fuel when cold.

The evidence seems to be that particulates are mainly from tyres, brakes
etc. and these are about 10 times the quantity produced by engines.

It seems to me that many people, even the ones here, are gradually being
brainwashed by the drip of anti-diesel propaganda, much of which seems
based on hearsay.

When a town near me bans or charges for diesels, I will simply never go
or spend money there again. Shame about the shops and businesses, but my
policy has worked with parking charges, and has been adopted by others
judging by the increasingly ghostly local shopping areas.
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On Sunday, 11 March 2018 00:20:57 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tabbypurr wrote:

Hybrid technology gets round the problem of poor efficiency in stop start
conditions.

does it? The Toyota Priapus gets worse combined cycle mpg than a straight engine.

You don't seriously believe official tests?

All hybrids do well in stop start conditions. The whole reason for them.
They're totally pointless at cruise.

they can do awesomely in stop-start, but since their overall mpg is worse there is no real efficiency gain.


NT

On 10/03/2018 21:29, wrote:
On Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:41:58 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

Petrol engines are at their worst efficiency wise when doing stop start
journeys.

all engines are

Electric engines arn't


At cruise, nothing like the same difference between petrol and
diesel. And diesel can become less efficient when thrashed.

all engines do

Electric engines don't


Hybrid technology gets round the problem of poor efficiency in stop start
conditions.

does it? The Toyota Priapus gets worse combined cycle mpg than a straight engine.


NT

In article , Andy Bennet
wrote:
On 10/03/2018 21:29, wrote:
On Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:41:58 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , David
wrote:

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of
economical petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do
so much of the utility work before diesels can be phased out.

Petrol engines are at their worst efficiency wise when doing stop
start journeys.

all engines are

Electric engines arn't

There's no such thing as an "electric engine". Ther are electric motors
which rely on eelctricity generated elsewhere.

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On 11/03/18 08:34, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 10/03/2018 21:29, wrote:
On Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:41:58 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)Â* wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â* David wrote:

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

Petrol engines are at their worst efficiency wise when doing stop start
journeys.

all engines are

Electric engines arn't

Electric engines are, actually.




At cruise, nothing like the same difference between petrol and
diesel. And diesel can become less efficient when thrashed.

all engines do

Electric engines don't

Electric engines generally do as well.

Ther are few motors that have the same efficiency across the power
band. You select the most efficiency where you expect to be operating
most of the time.



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On Sunday, 11 March 2018 08:34:58 UTC, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 10/03/2018 21:29, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:41:58 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

Petrol engines are at their worst efficiency wise when doing stop start
journeys.

all engines are

Electric engines arn't


At cruise, nothing like the same difference between petrol and
diesel. And diesel can become less efficient when thrashed.

all engines do

Electric engines don't

hint: we normally call those motors rather than engines

On 10/03/2018 21:29, wrote:
does it? The Toyota Priapus gets worse combined cycle mpg than a straight engine.

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/toyota/auris-2013

has figures for the Auris in Diesel, petrol and hybrid forms.

Real figures, from real people, not book ones.

Andy

On Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:54:56 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 10/03/2018 21:29, tabbypurr wrote:

does it? The Toyota Priapus gets worse combined cycle mpg than a straight engine.

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/toyota/auris-2013

has figures for the Auris in Diesel, petrol and hybrid forms.

Real figures, from real people, not book ones.

Andy

it also has the prius figures, which are no better than a straight diesel.


NT

On 10/03/2018 21:29, wrote:
On Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:41:58 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

Petrol engines are at their worst efficiency wise when doing stop start
journeys.

all engines are

At cruise, nothing like the same difference between petrol and
diesel. And diesel can become less efficient when thrashed.

all engines do

That's not the case for petrol. There are no induction losses for one
and if you don't allow the revs to go to far above max torque.

Hybrid technology gets round the problem of poor efficiency in stop start
conditions.

does it? The Toyota Priapus gets worse combined cycle mpg than a straight engine.

Even for city driving?

On Monday, 12 March 2018 00:20:04 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2018 21:29, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:41:58 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:

The motor manufacturers will have to produce a new range of economical
petrol engines targeted at the big load luggers which do so much of the
utility work before diesels can be phased out.

Petrol engines are at their worst efficiency wise when doing stop start
journeys.

all engines are

At cruise, nothing like the same difference between petrol and
diesel. And diesel can become less efficient when thrashed.

all engines do

That's not the case for petrol. There are no induction losses for one
and if you don't allow the revs to go to far above max torque.

If you've ever seen efficiency plots for car engines you'll know that worsening efficiency when thrashed is inevitable. Much worse. If you understand engines reasonably well you'll also know why.


Hybrid technology gets round the problem of poor efficiency in stop start
conditions.

does it? The Toyota Priapus gets worse combined cycle mpg than a straight engine.

Even for city driving?

The only thing that counts in the real world is total miles per total fuel consumed. Splitting it up into bits is of little utility. Hybrid engines sounded like a cute trick, but have not delivered.


NT

On 10/03/2018 18:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Petrol engines are at their worst efficiency wise when doing stop start
journeys. At cruise, nothing like the same difference between petrol and
diesel.



And diesel can become less efficient when thrashed.


Yep. An overall 20MPG on my trip to Grimsby last week. Thrashed it all
the way. Now if I had set the CC to 70MPH I would have got closer to 35MPG

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On 10/03/2018 09:41, harry wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...esel-engine-UK

I am hoping that my diesel car will last until they get Lithium air
batteries to work properly, or some other equally weight efficient
technology. Even then I wonder if the car will be warm enough on a long
journey in cold weather.

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 01:41:18 -0800, harry wrote:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...car-scrappage-
toyota-diesel-engine-UK

A huge and terrible mistake. A simple advance in filtering for diesels is
all it would take to make them way more e-friendly than petrol. Even as
things stand, they are far more efficient and produce less carbon than
petrol!



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On Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:21:50 UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 01:41:18 -0800, harry wrote:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...car-scrappage-
toyota-diesel-engine-UK

A huge and terrible mistake. A simple advance in filtering for diesels is
all it would take to make them way more e-friendly than petrol. Even as
things stand, they are far more efficient and produce less carbon than
petrol!

If we want to move to relatively clean vehicles, and the claimed deaths indicate we do, the way to get there soonest is to let manufacturers, labs etc work on all types of engine. This maximises the odds of hitting on a great technology. Effectively banning various types simply ends all research on that engine type, thereby much reducing our chances of reaching a satisfactory engine type soon.

This is a big factor that gets about zero airtime, yet is absolutely key to achieving what we want. Sometimes a bit better is the enemy of the best.


NT