Brian Gaff wrote:

probably because it needed a lot of money spent on it to
make it suitable for the future and nobody wanted to pay it.

I thought someone was working on salt-caverns for storage (somewhere in
cheshire?) did that scheme die a death?

On 01/03/18 17:23, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:37:47 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

I rarely agree with you but this time perhaps yopu are right

But I found this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zqnyg82

Bottom right hand corner. Direct link to gridwatch...

Click on French flag in top LH corner.

Yup. Le Continent is also pushing ze limits esp. with a large proportion
of french nukes still down for political reasons


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On 01/03/2018 17:21, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Why is there only one Monopolies Commission?

Replace by the Competition Commission in 1999. which was replaced by the
Competition and Markets Authority in 2014. Perhaps you should update
your sigs file.

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On 01/03/2018 17:19, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:55:36 -0000, Andrew Gabriel
wrote:

On the news just now...

Apparently gas consumption today would be 400M cubic metres, but
there's only 350M cubic metres available, so a gas deficit has been
declared. This means large industrial users will have their gas cut
off for part of the day.

The two contributory factors are 1/3rd extra usage today over normal
due to the weather, and two gas import docks broken down.

Centrica closed our North Sea gas storage last year, which held 9
weeks supply of gas, due ot it being not commercially viable
anymore. Gas spot price currently 190p/therm.

Can't they just let the pressure fall a bit so we use less?

Air gets in the pipes and boom!

--
Max Demian

On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:21:23 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:


Have Daily Mail to read by candlelight if neccesary.

Pessimist.

******.

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about Birdbrain Macaw's (now "James Wilkinson" LOL)
trolling:
"He is a well known attention seeking troll and every reply you
make feeds him.
Starts many threads most of which die quick as on the UK groups anyone
with sense Kill filed him ages ago which is why he now cross posts to
the US groups for a new audience.
This thread was unusual in that it derived and continued without him
to a large extent and his silly questioning is an attempt to get
noticed again."
MID:

On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:20:19 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

And we're installing them because apparently we're warming the planet.
Yeah right, I've got a foot of snow outside my front door!

Not to forget the **** for brains that you got, Birdbrain!

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On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:19:18 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:


Can't they just let the pressure fall a bit so we use less?

ANY idiotic comment will do for you to attract attention, eh, Birdbrain?

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"illness":
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MID:

LOL

On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:24:48 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

Replace by the Competition Commission in 1999. which was replaced by the
Competition and Markets Authority in 2014. Perhaps you should update
your sigs file.

It's just a name.

Or, more to the point: you are just an idiot!

--
Rob Morley about Birdbrain:
"He's a perennial idiot"
MID: 20170519215057.56a1f1d4@Mars

--
JoeyDee to Birdbrain
"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments."
MID: l-september.org

--
Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now "James Wilkinson Sword" LOL):
"He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be."
MID:

On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:26:44 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

Why would air get in? I never said reduce it below atmospheric pressure,

It's somewhat like with the vacuum in your skull and the air it keeps
sucking in, next to your two brain cells, Birdbrain!

--
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"illness":
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MID:

LOL

On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:39:31 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

Its quite hard to do "do you want fries with that?" as a home worker.
I expect it will be about a decade before that is automated.

You've not been in a Mucky D's recently? Big touch screens to place
your order on, or smaller ones at tables. Software programmed to do
the up selling. Payment taken by card. It's not a big step to have
delivery of the comestables to your table or take out pick up point
automated (big Lamson tubes?).

The *really* hard bit to automate is the cooking and assembly to
order,

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 01:18:04 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:


Well if we'd just ignore all those ****wit anti-fracking loonies....

I'm pleased to see that pretty much everyone, except for one ****wit,
ignored YOU ****wit in this thread!

--
JoeyDee to Birdbrain
"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments."
MID: l-september.org

--
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"He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be."
MID:

--
asking Birdbrain:
"What, were you dropped on your head as a child?"
MID:

On 02/03/2018 00:13, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:39:31 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

Its quite hard to do "do you want fries with that?" as a home worker.
I expect it will be about a decade before that is automated.

You've not been in a Mucky D's recently? Big touch screens to place
your order on, or smaller ones at tables. Software programmed to do
the up selling. Payment taken by card. It's not a big step to have
delivery of the comestables to your table or take out pick up point
automated (big Lamson tubes?).

The *really* hard bit to automate is the cooking and assembly to
order,



About a decade.

On 01/03/2018 11:45, newshound wrote:
On 01/03/2018 11:16, Martin Brown wrote:
On 01/03/2018 10:00, Andrew Gabriel wrote:


For now it is just affecting the spot market pricing.

Daughter works for Gazprom, must give her a ring tonight.

"...gas price higher than I have ever seen it and a power cashout price
of £995 /MWh! Thankfully my team were on the right side of it!!"

On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 18:23:14 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:37:47 +0000, The Natural Philosopher

wrote:

I rarely agree with you but this time perhaps yopu are right

But I found this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zqnyg82

Bottom right hand corner. Direct link to gridwatch...

Click on French flag in top LH corner.

Cool. Hadn't twigged what that was.

Shows the different profiles in different countries.
UK is pushing 50 GW total demand and France is closer to 75 GW.
Smaller population as well, though more spread out.

I assume the big difference is our use of gas for heating.

Cheers


Dave R

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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:21:04 -0000, Max Demian
wrote:
On 01/03/2018 17:21, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Why is there only one Monopolies Commission?

Replace by the Competition Commission in 1999. which was replaced by
the Competition and Markets Authority in 2014. Perhaps you should
update your sigs file.

It's just a name.

"I have seriously considered poisoning my Father"
(Peter Hucker)

Max Demian wrote:
On 01/03/2018 17:21, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Why is there only one Monopolies Commission?

Replace by the Competition Commission in 1999. which was replaced by
the Competition and Markets Authority in 2014. Perhaps you should
update your sigs file.

Hucker is too stupid to understand this.
He once thought that the CPS stood for Child Protection Services!
He is a well known prick.

In article , Robin
writes
On 01/03/2018 10:11, The Other Mike wrote:

Without the wind generation we'd have been a long way up that iced
over creek
called **** for most of this week.


If we didn't have wind generation the vast sums spent subsidising it
could have been spent on other sources - preferably ones which are not
intermittent.


E.g. nukes
--
bert

David wrote:
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 18:23:14 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:37:47 +0000, The Natural Philosopher

wrote:

I rarely agree with you but this time perhaps yopu are right

But I found this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zqnyg82

Bottom right hand corner. Direct link to gridwatch...

Click on French flag in top LH corner.

Cool. Hadn't twigged what that was.

Shows the different profiles in different countries.
UK is pushing 50 GW total demand and France is closer to 75 GW.
Smaller population as well, though more spread out.

I assume the big difference is our use of gas for heating.

Probably, yes. Virtually all French heating in the countryside is by
electricity from what I've seen - plus wood burning stoves.

--
Chris Green
·

On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 21:44:48 +0000, Chris Green wrote:


I assume the big difference is our use of gas for heating.

Probably, yes. Virtually all French heating in the countryside is by
electricity from what I've seen - plus wood burning stoves.

Somewhere a long time ago I read that Paris never really got into
burning coal in domestic grates and wood, easily obtained from woods
in the surrounding countryside was preferred instead.
Hence for much of the 19th and 20th centuries Paris buildings stayed a
lot cleaner than London with its Soot covered buildings.
Its took London about 50 years till enough buildings got cleaned
enough that you can see the colour of the stone they are built of
rather than being obscured by black stains.

G.Harman