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Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen.
Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? |
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On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote:
Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? I have found a sharp wide wood chisel of the sort intended for hitting with a hammer useful against the most stubborn tile adhesive. But a lot of it will come off with a wallpaper scraper if you are lucky. Expect some collateral damage unless you have a very steady hand. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Got a multitool? Carbide encrusted grinding /abradingattachment. -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 12/01/18 11:28, GB wrote:
Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? destroy the PB and put up new, unless you value your time at 0.01p per hour... -- "Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will let them." |
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On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote:
Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? There isn't one! Rip out the plasterboard and replace it - it's dirt cheap. You don't have to skim the new board before tiling it. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? There isn't one! Rip out the plasterboard and replace it - it's dirt cheap. You don't have to skim the new board before tiling it. Plus at least two trips 1 to the tip IF they accept plasterboard, 1 at least to the shed in your car possibly with roofrack (and friend for 8x4 sheets) then bagging up & carting all the old out & all the new in, ripping out, tidying up, fitting new, cleaning up...... And then get to do what you set out to.... Depending on area involved, I'd try getting the worst off too! -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Very dust inducing though so wear a mask and have selective hearing when the
partner complains about dust being everywhere..... Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "jim" k wrote in message o.uk... GB Wrote in message: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Got a multitool? Carbide encrusted grinding /abradingattachment. -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Tim Streater Wrote in message:
In article , jim wrote: Roger Mills Wrote in message: On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? There isn't one! Rip out the plasterboard and replace it - it's dirt cheap. You don't have to skim the new board before tiling it. Plus at least two trips 1 to the tip IF they accept plasterboard, Our tip takes plasterboard. They have a whole skip dedicated to it. Good for *you*. My nearest does too but others in the same area don't... -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 5:07:17 PM UTC, jim wrote:
Tim Streater Wrote in message: In article , jim wrote: Roger Mills Wrote in message: On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? There isn't one! Rip out the plasterboard and replace it - it's dirt cheap. You don't have to skim the new board before tiling it. Plus at least two trips 1 to the tip IF they accept plasterboard, Our tip takes plasterboard. They have a whole skip dedicated to it. Good for *you*. My nearest does too but others in the same area don't... -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ The smaller size (1800 x 900) PB goes in most cars I would think |
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On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote:
Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Tile over it. -- Adam |
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On Friday, 12 January 2018 11:28:35 UTC, GB wrote:
Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Impossible. Replace the PB, adding insulation if it's an outside wall. PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. NT |
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On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote:
Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Unless someone has used the waterproof adhesive (generally people don't), warm water often softens it very well - how much it will soften the plasterboard is another matter, but you've got nothing to lose trying it. I removed large amounts of tile adhesive this way in our bathroom, but that was on plastered brick rather than plasterboard. SteveW |
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In message , Steve Walker
writes On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Unless someone has used the waterproof adhesive (generally people don't), warm water often softens it very well - how much it will soften the plasterboard is another matter, but you've got nothing to lose trying it. I removed large amounts of tile adhesive this way in our bathroom, but that was on plastered brick rather than plasterboard. Would a paper stripper steamer help? SteveW -- Tim Lamb |
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On 12/01/2018 22:24, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Steve Walker writes On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Â*Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but IÂ* can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive isÂ* still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a cleanÂ* surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Unless someone has used the waterproof adhesive (generally people don't), warm water often softens it very well - how much it will soften the plasterboard is another matter, but you've got nothing to lose trying it. I removed large amounts of tile adhesive this way in our bathroom, but that was on plastered brick rather than plasterboard. Would a paper stripper steamer help? Probably, but I found just brushing hot water on to be highly effective. SteveW |
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On 12/01/2018 14:30, Brian Gaff wrote:
Very dust inducing though so wear a mask and have selective hearing when the partner complains about dust being everywhere..... The dust from a multi tool is far less IME than from a rotating tool - it tends to just drop it straight down, rather than throw it about! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote:
Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Either skim it, or fix another layer of PB over it! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 12/01/2018 14:30, Brian Gaff wrote: Very dust inducing though so wear a mask and have selective hearing when the partner complains about dust being everywhere..... The dust from a multi tool is far less IME than from a rotating tool - it tends to just drop it straight down, rather than throw it about! Indeed. It doesn't seem to have chance to gather enough energy to become truly airborne in the same way as dust from say a disc or belt sander. -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Friday, 12 January 2018 21:04:04 UTC, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Unless someone has used the waterproof adhesive (generally people don't), warm water often softens it very well - how much it will soften the plasterboard is another matter, it's _the_ matter. but you've got nothing to lose trying it. no, other than a 100% waste of time & energy I removed large amounts of tile adhesive this way in our bathroom, but that was on plastered brick rather than plasterboard. quite NT |
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On Friday, 12 January 2018 11:28:35 UTC, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Impossible. For you maybe. PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. Shurely easier to take to the tip than start digging your own landfill site... -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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JoeJoe Wrote in message:
On 12/01/2018 20:53, wrote: On Friday, 12 January 2018 11:28:35 UTC, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Impossible. Replace the PB, adding insulation if it's an outside wall. PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. NT +1 I did our bathroom (well, shower) a few weeks ago. I was too lazy to go and get PB, so spent several hours trying to remove the adhesive (very well stuck), until I've had enough and went to get the two 8x4 boards. 100% false economy. 10 minutes to remove the boards from the wall + 10 minutes to remove all the screws etc + 10 minutes to screw new boards to the studs. Go on tell us another :-) -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:49:04 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
jim k wrote: Wrote in message: PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. Shurely easier to take to the tip than start digging your own landfill site... I assumed "if wanted" implied a heavy clay soil which would be improved by the addition of gypsum (and perhaps cellulose too). |
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On 12/01/2018 11:59, Martin Brown wrote:
On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? I have found a sharp wide wood chisel of the sort intended for hitting with a hammer useful against the most stubborn tile adhesive. But a lot of it will come off with a wallpaper scraper if you are lucky. Expect some collateral damage unless you have a very steady hand. Expect a LOT of collateral damage. -- Dave The Medway Handyman |
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On Saturday, 13 January 2018 14:03:25 UTC, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:49:04 +0000 (GMT+00:00) jim k wrote: tabbypurr Wrote in message: PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. Shurely easier to take to the tip than start digging your own landfill site... I assumed "if wanted" implied a heavy clay soil which would be improved by the addition of gypsum (and perhaps cellulose too). why does some idiot want to start discussing which he thinks is 'shurely' easier for the OP when he has really no idea. Yes it has its uses in the garden, and which is better for the OP to do is totally not worth imagining & debating. What a twit. NT |
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Wrote in message: On Friday, 12 January 2018 21:04:04 UTC, Steve Walker wrote: On 12/01/2018 11:28, GB wrote: Got rid of the old tiles in the kitchen. Some of them were on plasterboard, and I have some holes to mend, but I can cope with that. The problem is that some of the old tile adhesive is still adhering to the PB. What's the best way of getting a clean surface, ready for retiling, without destroying the PB? Unless someone has used the waterproof adhesive (generally people don't), warm water often softens it very well - how much it will soften the plasterboard is another matter, it's _the_ matter. but you've got nothing to lose trying it. no, other than a 100% waste of time & energy I removed large amounts of tile adhesive this way in our bathroom, but that was on plastered brick rather than plasterboard. quite NT Exactly when was the last time you tried to do this? Why do some ****s insist on continually declaring their armchair expertise as "the only answer" to tasks they did "once, long ago" & badly"? Tells more about their cludgy psyche than they realise :-D -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:49:04 +0000 (GMT+00:00) jim k wrote: Wrote in message: PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. Shurely easier to take to the tip than start digging your own landfill site... I assumed "if wanted" implied a heavy clay soil which would be improved by the addition of gypsum (and perhaps cellulose too). Don't be encouraged to gloss over the additional effort & time spent doing it tho... I wonder how many people have ever done it? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 13/01/18 18:19, jim wrote:
Rob Morley Wrote in message: On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:49:04 +0000 (GMT+00:00) jim k wrote: Wrote in message: PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. Shurely easier to take to the tip than start digging your own landfill site... I assumed "if wanted" implied a heavy clay soil which would be improved by the addition of gypsum (and perhaps cellulose too). Don't be encouraged to gloss over the additional effort & time spent doing it tho... I wonder how many people have ever done it? I did have a 3.5 tonne digger though -- "It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere" |
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On Saturday, 13 January 2018 18:29:25 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/01/18 18:19, jim wrote: Rob Morley Wrote in message: On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:49:04 +0000 (GMT+00:00) jim k wrote: tabbypurr Wrote in message: PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. Shurely easier to take to the tip than start digging your own landfill site... I assumed "if wanted" implied a heavy clay soil which would be improved by the addition of gypsum (and perhaps cellulose too). Don't be encouraged to gloss over the additional effort & time spent doing it tho... does he really want someone else to post an explanation of what's required to do this trivially simple job? I wonder how many people have ever done it? I did have a 3.5 tonne digger though obviously there are other situations in which it's the preferable option too. Smoe people are just trolling twits and that's all there is to it. NT |
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On Sunday, 14 January 2018 08:42:38 UTC, GB wrote:
On 13/01/2018 21:16, tabbypurr wrote: I did have a 3.5 tonne digger though obviously there are other situations in which it's the preferable option too. Smoe people are just trolling twits and that's all there is to it. If I had a 3.5 tonne digger and a suitable plot to dig on, any excuse would do. Burying plasterboard, why not? For an ordinary town dweller, it's not that practical. We are on heavy clay, so that digging more than a spade's depth is bloody hard work. If I did have to dispose of plasterboard that way, I'd leave it to soften up in the rain, then break it up and dig it into the top soil, which is pretty much clay anyway. It's a lot less trouble to take it to the dump. I'm not clear why you appear to think a hole must be dug to put it in. Maybe you've encountered less varied living situations than I have. Who knows. NT |
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The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message:
On 13/01/18 18:19, jim wrote: Rob Morley Wrote in message: On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:49:04 +0000 (GMT+00:00) jim k wrote: Wrote in message: PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. Shurely easier to take to the tip than start digging your own landfill site... I assumed "if wanted" implied a heavy clay soil which would be improved by the addition of gypsum (and perhaps cellulose too). Don't be encouraged to gloss over the additional effort & time spent doing it tho... I wonder how many people have ever done it? I did have a 3.5 tonne digger though I bet that made a mess of the flower beds :-) Honestly farting about breaking up plasterboard and mixing it into garden flower beds? What sort of trolling weirdo would advocate that? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 14/01/18 10:46, jim wrote:
The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message: On 13/01/18 18:19, jim wrote: Rob Morley Wrote in message: On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:49:04 +0000 (GMT+00:00) jim k wrote: Wrote in message: PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. Shurely easier to take to the tip than start digging your own landfill site... I assumed "if wanted" implied a heavy clay soil which would be improved by the addition of gypsum (and perhaps cellulose too). Don't be encouraged to gloss over the additional effort & time spent doing it tho... I wonder how many people have ever done it? I did have a 3.5 tonne digger though I bet that made a mess of the flower beds :-) Honestly farting about breaking up plasterboard and mixing it into garden flower beds? What sort of trolling weirdo would advocate that? No idea. I am just reporting that when I demolished my house, an awful lot of it was used to raise the lower part of te garden by a foot or two, plasterboard included. Fruit trees seem to love it. Hardcore improved drainage, too., -- A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. |
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On Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:22:13 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/01/18 10:46, jim wrote: The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message: On 13/01/18 18:19, jim wrote: Rob Morley Wrote in message: On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:49:04 +0000 (GMT+00:00) jim k wrote: tabbypurr Wrote in message: PB can be disposed of in garden soil if wanted. Shurely easier to take to the tip than start digging your own landfill site... I assumed "if wanted" implied a heavy clay soil which would be improved by the addition of gypsum (and perhaps cellulose too). Don't be encouraged to gloss over the additional effort & time spent doing it tho... I wonder how many people have ever done it? I did have a 3.5 tonne digger though I bet that made a mess of the flower beds :-) Honestly farting about breaking up plasterboard and mixing it into garden flower beds? What sort of trolling weirdo would advocate that? No idea. I am just reporting that when I demolished my house, an awful lot of it was used to raise the lower part of te garden by a foot or two, plasterboard included. Fruit trees seem to love it. Hardcore improved drainage, too., Maybe he thinks people never dig their gardens, so never have holes into which PB can be chucked. Who knows or cares. Just another excuse to be childish I'm sure. NT |
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