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Andy Burns[_13_] November 4th 17 01:38 PM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
When I was using a lot of foam (replacing all windows/doors) I had a
decent foam gun, and kept it cleaned after each usage, no problems.

Then when I started using it less frequently it started to get "gummed
up" between uses, so I stripped it down, it was ok again for a bit, I
tried leaving it with the foam can attached rather than
stripping/cleaning, and that ended-up completely blocked, stripped it
down again, and after the next time, gave up on the gun.

Instead I bought a hand-held can and a bunch of replacement nozzles,
used it once, discarded nozzle, cleaned the spout of the can with
acetone then left it stored upright, indoors.

Just came to use some a couple of months later, went to shake the can
and "uh-oh that feels almost solid" gave it a vigorous shake anyway,
didn't really do any good, attach nozzle but when pressed down not even
a dribble would come out.

So it becomes expensive to use in small quantities ...

Brian Gaff November 4th 17 02:56 PM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
Hang on, surely it should not go solid as the pressure is pushing out not
sucking air in, unless the cleaning of the nozzle made it leak the
propellant out and the air then got in.
Sounds like that could be dangerous as it expands and might then presumably
burst out of the can.
Brian

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When I was using a lot of foam (replacing all windows/doors) I had a
decent foam gun, and kept it cleaned after each usage, no problems.

Then when I started using it less frequently it started to get "gummed up"
between uses, so I stripped it down, it was ok again for a bit, I tried
leaving it with the foam can attached rather than stripping/cleaning, and
that ended-up completely blocked, stripped it down again, and after the
next time, gave up on the gun.

Instead I bought a hand-held can and a bunch of replacement nozzles, used
it once, discarded nozzle, cleaned the spout of the can with acetone then
left it stored upright, indoors.

Just came to use some a couple of months later, went to shake the can and
"uh-oh that feels almost solid" gave it a vigorous shake anyway, didn't
really do any good, attach nozzle but when pressed down not even a dribble
would come out.

So it becomes expensive to use in small quantities ...




Andy Burns[_13_] November 4th 17 03:46 PM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
Brian Gaff wrote:

surely it should not go solid as the pressure is pushing out not
sucking air in,


In the past, I've thought storing a part-used can inverted might be
better, as the gas couldn't leak out without it being noticeable, but
apparently storing upright is the correct way.

unless the cleaning of the nozzle made it leak the
propellant out and the air then got in.


some foam (probably dissolved by acetone to make a thin "glue" before
the acetone evaporated had created a seal around the nozzle on the can,
I had to press it firmly to break that.

Sounds like that could be dangerous as it expands and might then presumably
burst out of the can.


The can isn't under any extreme of pressure, it has some give when
gripping it firmly, the contents aren't fully solid, but it seems
there's a "plug" of cured foam above the liquid and whatever gas remains.

[email protected] November 4th 17 04:25 PM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
On Saturday, 4 November 2017 15:46:17 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:

surely it should not go solid as the pressure is pushing out not
sucking air in,


In the past, I've thought storing a part-used can inverted might be
better, as the gas couldn't leak out without it being noticeable, but
apparently storing upright is the correct way.

unless the cleaning of the nozzle made it leak the
propellant out and the air then got in.


some foam (probably dissolved by acetone to make a thin "glue" before
the acetone evaporated had created a seal around the nozzle on the can,
I had to press it firmly to break that.

Sounds like that could be dangerous as it expands and might then presumably
burst out of the can.


The can isn't under any extreme of pressure, it has some give when
gripping it firmly, the contents aren't fully solid, but it seems
there's a "plug" of cured foam above the liquid and whatever gas remains.


A nail should free it then ;)


NT

Tricky Dicky[_4_] November 4th 17 05:32 PM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
A nail should free it then ;)

And foam everywhere if it does.

Richard

[email protected] November 4th 17 05:53 PM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
On Saturday, 4 November 2017 17:32:15 UTC, Tricky Dicky wrote:
A nail should free it then ;)


And foam everywhere if it does.

Richard


shhhhh

Iggy November 5th 17 12:44 AM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
replying to Andy Burns, Iggy wrote:
Don't clean nor take anything apart and let a big blob seal off the end of the
nozzle/tube. When you need it again, in the same day or week, then cut the
blob off with a bit of nozzle/tube. If it's months later, then you'll need to
replace the nozzle/tube...I've had success with this for a can up a year old.

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Andy Burns[_13_] November 5th 17 12:10 PM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
Iggy wrote:

Don't clean nor take anything apart and let a big blob seal off the end of the
nozzle/tube. When you need it again, in the same day or week, then cut the
blob off with a bit of nozzle/tube. If it's months later, then you'll need to
replace the nozzle/tube...I've had success with this for a can up a year old.


The instructions recommend finishing the can off within one hour!

Iggy November 5th 17 03:14 PM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
replying to Andy Burns, Iggy wrote:
I'm sure they do. But, the stuff won't cure unless exposed to air. Treat it
like caulk, mustard, plasterboard compound or glue and it'll stay viable.

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Jim November 8th 17 05:01 PM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
Iggy m Wrote in
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replying to Andy Burns, Iggy wrote:
I'm sure they do. But, the stuff won't cure unless exposed to air.


Except it's moisture cured Einstein...

Ps When are the Stooges reforming?
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harry November 9th 17 08:34 AM

I think I'm doomed with foam
 
On Saturday, 4 November 2017 13:38:45 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
When I was using a lot of foam (replacing all windows/doors) I had a
decent foam gun, and kept it cleaned after each usage, no problems.

Then when I started using it less frequently it started to get "gummed
up" between uses, so I stripped it down, it was ok again for a bit, I
tried leaving it with the foam can attached rather than
stripping/cleaning, and that ended-up completely blocked, stripped it
down again, and after the next time, gave up on the gun.

Instead I bought a hand-held can and a bunch of replacement nozzles,
used it once, discarded nozzle, cleaned the spout of the can with
acetone then left it stored upright, indoors.

Just came to use some a couple of months later, went to shake the can
and "uh-oh that feels almost solid" gave it a vigorous shake anyway,
didn't really do any good, attach nozzle but when pressed down not even
a dribble would come out.

So it becomes expensive to use in small quantities ...


The foam is expelled by means of gas. The gas leaks out over time so the cans have a shelf life. Buy them when you need them. There are various sizes.

The foam sets by means of atmospheric moisture, so it won't set in the can.
If gas is lost, you just get a gummy liquid out. Good as a glue but no foam.


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