Gentlemen,

Can't help but notice a couple of inconsistencies in tonight's show.
They're supposed to have access to only basic tools, so where did the arc
welder come from and how was it powered up? They were using a grinder as
well, but that was 'okayish' as it was 18V from one of the wrecked
vehicle's 12V batteries using a switching buck converter so fair enough I
s'pose. However, there's a sequence half way through where they say
they're going to winch the Winnebego out of the sand, but they don't.
Instead it appears in the very next scene to get towed out of the sand
its embedded in by some unseen vehicle which can clearly be heard revving
in the background. The speed is also much too fast for any winch. Maybe
I'll watch it again on +1 and see if there's anything else amiss here.
Looks like there's some fiddling going on, though.




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Cursitor Doom Wrote in message:
Gentlemen,

Can't help but notice a couple of inconsistencies in tonight's show.
They're supposed to have access to only basic tools, so where did the arc
welder come from and how was it powered up? They were using a grinder as
well, but that was 'okayish' as it was 18V from one of the wrecked
vehicle's 12V batteries using a switching buck converter so fair enough I
s'pose. However, there's a sequence half way through where they say
they're going to winch the Winnebego out of the sand, but they don't.
Instead it appears in the very next scene to get towed out of the sand
its embedded in by some unseen vehicle which can clearly be heard revving
in the background. The speed is also much too fast for any winch. Maybe
I'll watch it again on +1 and see if there's anything else amiss here.
Looks like there's some fiddling going on, though.





Dunno about the welder yet but the winnebago was winched out by
using one of it's rear hubs (& it's engine)to wind a winch cable
attached to some rocks.
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It struck me as about as authentic as was Scrapheap Challenge.

On 08/10/2017 22:32, Bert Coules wrote:
It struck me as about as authentic as was Scrapheap Challenge.

They are always going to run out of water or food just before they escape.

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Perhaps the series consultant worked on the 'A' Team, grin. Remember shows
like tese are catering for the lowest common denominator and probably all
viewers are expected to, to coin a phrase, to be thick as a brick.
It is after all just a form of silly entertainment is it not. When I first
heard of this show I made a mental note to keep well clear of it, as it just
sounded very stupid indeed.
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Gentlemen,

Can't help but notice a couple of inconsistencies in tonight's show.
They're supposed to have access to only basic tools, so where did the arc
welder come from and how was it powered up? They were using a grinder as
well, but that was 'okayish' as it was 18V from one of the wrecked
vehicle's 12V batteries using a switching buck converter so fair enough I
s'pose. However, there's a sequence half way through where they say
they're going to winch the Winnebego out of the sand, but they don't.
Instead it appears in the very next scene to get towed out of the sand
its embedded in by some unseen vehicle which can clearly be heard revving
in the background. The speed is also much too fast for any winch. Maybe
I'll watch it again on +1 and see if there's anything else amiss here.
Looks like there's some fiddling going on, though.




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Cursitor Doom Wrote in message:
Gentlemen,

Can't help but notice a couple of inconsistencies in tonight's show.
They're supposed to have access to only basic tools, so where did the arc
welder come from and how was it powered up? They were using a grinder as
well, but that was 'okayish' as it was 18V from one of the wrecked
vehicle's 12V batteries using a switching buck converter so fair enough I
s'pose. However, there's a sequence half way through where they say
they're going to winch the Winnebego out of the sand, but they don't.
Instead it appears in the very next scene to get towed out of the sand
its embedded in by some unseen vehicle which can clearly be heard revving
in the background. The speed is also much too fast for any winch. Maybe
I'll watch it again on +1 and see if there's anything else amiss here.
Looks like there's some fiddling going on, though.





Dunno about the welder yet but the winnebago was winched out by
using one of it's rear hubs (& it's engine)to wind a winch cable
attached to some rocks.

as previously seen on Ice Road Truckers

Brian Gaff wrote

Perhaps the series consultant worked on the 'A' Team, grin.

Remember shows like tese are catering for the lowest common denominator

Like hell they do with all of Ice Road Truckers, Outback Truckers,
24 Hours in Emergency etc etc etc.

and probably all viewers are expected to, to coin a phrase, to be thick as
a brick.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

It is after all just a form of silly entertainment is it not.

So what do you consider isnt 'silly entertainment' ?


"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
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Gentlemen,

Can't help but notice a couple of inconsistencies in tonight's show.
They're supposed to have access to only basic tools, so where did the arc
welder come from and how was it powered up? They were using a grinder as
well, but that was 'okayish' as it was 18V from one of the wrecked
vehicle's 12V batteries using a switching buck converter so fair enough I
s'pose. However, there's a sequence half way through where they say
they're going to winch the Winnebego out of the sand, but they don't.
Instead it appears in the very next scene to get towed out of the sand
its embedded in by some unseen vehicle which can clearly be heard revving
in the background. The speed is also much too fast for any winch. Maybe
I'll watch it again on +1 and see if there's anything else amiss here.
Looks like there's some fiddling going on, though.




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Cursitor Doom Wrote in message:
Gentlemen,

Can't help but notice a couple of inconsistencies in tonight's show.
They're supposed to have access to only basic tools, so where did the arc
welder come from and how was it powered up? They were using a grinder as
well, but that was 'okayish' as it was 18V from one of the wrecked
vehicle's 12V batteries using a switching buck converter so fair enough I
s'pose. However, there's a sequence half way through where they say
they're going to winch the Winnebego out of the sand, but they don't.
Instead it appears in the very next scene to get towed out of the sand
its embedded in by some unseen vehicle which can clearly be heard revving
in the background. The speed is also much too fast for any winch. Maybe
I'll watch it again on +1 and see if there's anything else amiss here.
Looks like there's some fiddling going on, though.





Dunno about the welder yet but the winnebago was winched out by
using one of it's rear hubs (& it's engine)to wind a winch cable
attached to some rocks.

as previously seen on Ice Road Truckers

Oh.
Wonder where they "stole" it from...
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 08:52:01 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

Perhaps the series consultant worked on the 'A' Team, grin. Remember
shows like tese are catering for the lowest common denominator and
probably all viewers are expected to, to coin a phrase, to be thick as a
brick.


It would be much better if they just abandoned those people in the middle
of nowhere without any tools or food or water or shelter at all. Then
when they died we would know it wasn't fixed. ;-)




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On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 08:52:01 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

Perhaps the series consultant worked on the 'A' Team, grin. Remember
shows like tese are catering for the lowest common denominator and
probably all viewers are expected to, to coin a phrase, to be thick as a
brick.


It would be much better if they just abandoned those people in the middle
of nowhere without any tools or food or water or shelter at all. Then
when they died we would know it wasn't fixed. ;-)

But it's only a few miles walk to the nearest pub ;-)

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"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
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Gentlemen,

Can't help but notice a couple of inconsistencies in tonight's show.
They're supposed to have access to only basic tools, so where did the arc
welder come from and how was it powered up? They were using a grinder as
well, but that was 'okayish' as it was 18V from one of the wrecked
vehicle's 12V batteries using a switching buck converter so fair enough I
s'pose. However, there's a sequence half way through where they say
they're going to winch the Winnebego out of the sand, but they don't.
Instead it appears in the very next scene to get towed out of the sand
its embedded in by some unseen vehicle which can clearly be heard revving
in the background. The speed is also much too fast for any winch. Maybe
I'll watch it again on +1 and see if there's anything else amiss here.
Looks like there's some fiddling going on, though.



Bloody 'ell

Last night's was tough going

Both in the harshness of the environment and the difficulty of that task

Much respect to the "amateur" contestants that put themselves though all
that pain for what was presumably a pittance in "appearance" fees.

And for the third week running they find at the last moment that there's a
strange mechanical fault with the equipment that's got nothing to do with
simulated catastrophe, but was inherent all along, which is meant to test
them even further.

Except that last night the test was hard enough up to that point and it just
made the test impossibly difficult.

Having said that, I think that cutting the roof off the bus was an
unnecessary solution.

If they had to lash so many buoyancy aids to it to make it stable, it would
have been easier just to tie all the buoyant items that they had together
and put the squabs from the bus seats on the top to sit on.

tim

On 16/10/2017 09:14, tim... wrote:



Bloody 'ell

Last night's was tough going

Both in the harshness of the environment and the difficulty of that task

And for the third week running they find at the last moment that there's
a strange mechanical fault with the equipment that's got nothing to do
with simulated catastrophe, but was inherent all along, which is meant
to test them even further.

Except that last night the test was hard enough up to that point and it
just made the test impossibly difficult.

Having said that, I think that cutting the roof off the bus was an
unnecessary solution.

If they had to lash so many buoyancy aids to it to make it stable, it
would have been easier just to tie all the buoyant items that they had
together and put the squabs from the bus seats on the top to sit on.


KISS
Lash together the floatation aids
Paddle down river - using the tide to help them along.

So many "engineers" over thinking a survival situation. Not one ounce of
common sense between them.

How to make a heavy ladder float. Wrap it up with a heavy hose and fill
the hose with CO2 from a fire extinguisher. Why?

Yet again - they ran out of food and water - presumably they didn't
notice it was raining!







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On 16/10/2017 09:14, tim... wrote:



Bloody 'ell

Last night's was tough going

Both in the harshness of the environment and the difficulty of that task

And for the third week running they find at the last moment that there's
a strange mechanical fault with the equipment that's got nothing to do
with simulated catastrophe, but was inherent all along, which is meant to
test them even further.

Except that last night the test was hard enough up to that point and it
just made the test impossibly difficult.

Having said that, I think that cutting the roof off the bus was an
unnecessary solution.

If they had to lash so many buoyancy aids to it to make it stable, it
would have been easier just to tie all the buoyant items that they had
together and put the squabs from the bus seats on the top to sit on.


KISS
Lash together the floatation aids

agreed

Paddle down river - using the tide to help them along.

It is clear that the self propulsion method is forbidden by the rules of the
game.

The guys in the desert could have walked out before their food/water ran out

But the theory is that you don't know this will be the case and have to
prepare for a distant that cannot be successfully walked.

tim

I don't go for these programs, they are pretty stupid really. What is the
point?

I mean life is hard enough in real life.
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"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
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Gentlemen,

Can't help but notice a couple of inconsistencies in tonight's show.
They're supposed to have access to only basic tools, so where did the arc
welder come from and how was it powered up? They were using a grinder as
well, but that was 'okayish' as it was 18V from one of the wrecked
vehicle's 12V batteries using a switching buck converter so fair enough I
s'pose. However, there's a sequence half way through where they say
they're going to winch the Winnebego out of the sand, but they don't.
Instead it appears in the very next scene to get towed out of the sand
its embedded in by some unseen vehicle which can clearly be heard revving
in the background. The speed is also much too fast for any winch. Maybe
I'll watch it again on +1 and see if there's anything else amiss here.
Looks like there's some fiddling going on, though.



Bloody 'ell

Last night's was tough going

Both in the harshness of the environment and the difficulty of that task

Much respect to the "amateur" contestants that put themselves though all
that pain for what was presumably a pittance in "appearance" fees.

And for the third week running they find at the last moment that there's a
strange mechanical fault with the equipment that's got nothing to do with
simulated catastrophe, but was inherent all along, which is meant to test
them even further.

Except that last night the test was hard enough up to that point and it
just made the test impossibly difficult.

Having said that, I think that cutting the roof off the bus was an
unnecessary solution.

If they had to lash so many buoyancy aids to it to make it stable, it
would have been easier just to tie all the buoyant items that they had
together and put the squabs from the bus seats on the top to sit on.

tim

Brian Gaff wrote

I don't go for these programs, they are pretty stupid really. What is the
point?

The point is that some find it interesting to see what
others can come up with in that sort of situation.

I mean life is hard enough in real life.

It isnt for most.


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"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
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Gentlemen,

Can't help but notice a couple of inconsistencies in tonight's show.
They're supposed to have access to only basic tools, so where did the
arc
welder come from and how was it powered up? They were using a grinder as
well, but that was 'okayish' as it was 18V from one of the wrecked
vehicle's 12V batteries using a switching buck converter so fair enough
I
s'pose. However, there's a sequence half way through where they say
they're going to winch the Winnebego out of the sand, but they don't.
Instead it appears in the very next scene to get towed out of the sand
its embedded in by some unseen vehicle which can clearly be heard
revving
in the background. The speed is also much too fast for any winch. Maybe
I'll watch it again on +1 and see if there's anything else amiss here.
Looks like there's some fiddling going on, though.



Bloody 'ell

Last night's was tough going

Both in the harshness of the environment and the difficulty of that task

Much respect to the "amateur" contestants that put themselves though all
that pain for what was presumably a pittance in "appearance" fees.

And for the third week running they find at the last moment that there's
a strange mechanical fault with the equipment that's got nothing to do
with simulated catastrophe, but was inherent all along, which is meant to
test them even further.

Except that last night the test was hard enough up to that point and it
just made the test impossibly difficult.

Having said that, I think that cutting the roof off the bus was an
unnecessary solution.

If they had to lash so many buoyancy aids to it to make it stable, it
would have been easier just to tie all the buoyant items that they had
together and put the squabs from the bus seats on the top to sit on.

tim

On 16/10/2017 10:42, tim... wrote:



It is clear that the self propulsion method is forbidden by the rules of
the game.


What would have made the program more interesting would have been the
"participants" stealing the support boat and leaving the camera crew,
director and make-up artists etc. to get back to civilisation on their own.





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