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TheChief September 23rd 17 10:21 AM

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Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.
This came up when I was repeating a car salesman's description to
an American.
The salesman used the adjectives skinned, winded and bidet to
describe a car. Think this is just a way for this specific
garage to indicate leather trim, air conditioning and rear wash
wipe :)

Anyhow, my American colleague didn't get the word bidet, as I had
pronounced it bee-day. Looks like the Americans pronounce this
bid-day with the emphasis on the second syllable.

Most people wouldn't give this a thought, but it's in the genes
for me as my father taught French and German, but is no longer
around to ask.

Anyone know of a source for the definitive French pronunciation of
their language? Maybe it changes depending on region. I tried
looking in French ngs but they are spammed out of
usefulness.

Thanks

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Robin September 23rd 17 10:47 AM

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On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:


Anyone know of a source for the definitive French pronunciation of
their language? Maybe it changes depending on region. I tried
looking in French ngs but they are spammed out of
usefulness.


I don't know that it is "definitive" but there are audio files for many
words in the Larousse dictionmary online. See (and hear)

http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires...6?q=bidet#9050

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Brian Gaff September 23rd 17 10:50 AM

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Hang on you lost me, you mean a car has an en suite Bidet?
Really whatever next, a bowling alley, some swimming pools perhaps?
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Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.
This came up when I was repeating a car salesman's description to
an American.
The salesman used the adjectives skinned, winded and bidet to
describe a car. Think this is just a way for this specific
garage to indicate leather trim, air conditioning and rear wash
wipe :)

Anyhow, my American colleague didn't get the word bidet, as I had
pronounced it bee-day. Looks like the Americans pronounce this
bid-day with the emphasis on the second syllable.

Most people wouldn't give this a thought, but it's in the genes
for me as my father taught French and German, but is no longer
around to ask.

Anyone know of a source for the definitive French pronunciation of
their language? Maybe it changes depending on region. I tried
looking in French ngs but they are spammed out of
usefulness.

Thanks

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Brian Gaff September 23rd 17 10:51 AM

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They do in my view anyway, do lieutenant better, where did that f come
from?
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"Huge" wrote in message
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On 2017-09-23, TheChief wrote:

[18 lines snipped]

Anyone know of a source for the definitive French pronunciation of
their language? Maybe it changes depending on region. I tried
looking in French ngs but they are spammed out of
usefulness.


Bee-day

http://howjsay.com/pronunciation-of-bidet

Look like Americans pronounce it incorrectly. No surprise there, then.
Look
(or rather, listen) to the mess Americans make of "route" and New
Englanders
make of "buoy".

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Rod Speed September 23rd 17 10:55 AM

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TheChief wrote

Hi all


all hanged himself, couldn't keep up with the posts addressed to him
personally.

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic.


I'd have you publicly flogged if you hadn't
so obviously enjoyed that the last time...

I am looking for a definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.


No such animal, even with frog words.

This came up when I was repeating a car
salesman's description to an American.


The salesman used the adjectives skinned,
winded and bidet to describe a car.


Because it was a steaming turd with wheels and
he didn't have the balls to say that explicitly ?

Think this is just a way for this specific garage to indicate
leather trim, air conditioning and rear wash wipe :)


Anyhow, my American colleague didn't get the word bidet,
as I had pronounced it bee-day. Looks like the Americans
pronounce this bid-day with the emphasis on the second syllable.


Most people wouldn't give this a thought, but
it's in the genes for me as my father taught French
and German, but is no longer around to ask.


You could try a ouija board.

Don't you dare ask me how to pronounce
that or I will send around the death squad...

Anyone know of a source for the definitive
French pronunciation of their language?


Presumably those fools that rule on what are
acceptable frog words are stupid enough to do that.

And most frogs make an obscene gesture in their
general direction and say it any way they like.

Maybe it changes depending on region.


Corse it does.

I tried looking in French ngs but
they are spammed out of usefulness.


And bugger all frogs bother with usenet anyway.


Rod Speed September 23rd 17 11:00 AM

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"Huge" wrote in message
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On 2017-09-23, TheChief wrote:

[18 lines snipped]

Anyone know of a source for the definitive French pronunciation of
their language? Maybe it changes depending on region. I tried
looking in French ngs but they are spammed out of
usefulness.


Bee-day

http://howjsay.com/pronunciation-of-bidet

Look like Americans pronounce it incorrectly. No surprise there, then.
Look
(or rather, listen) to the mess Americans make of "route" and New
Englanders
make of "buoy".


And how siri says yawn, closer to youaren.

None of the yanks I asked ever say it like that.


alan_m September 23rd 17 11:01 AM

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On 23/09/2017 10:50, Brian Gaff wrote:
Hang on you lost me, you mean a car has an en suite Bidet?
Really whatever next, a bowling alley, some swimming pools perhaps?


That's what I thought. The OP was more concerned about the pronunciation
of bidet rather questioning why a car needed a low oval basin used for
washing one's genital and anal area. Or perhaps the car dealer was
suggesting that the vehicle being sold was ****.


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alan_m September 23rd 17 11:45 AM

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On 23/09/2017 11:06, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , alan_m
wrote:

On 23/09/2017 10:50, Brian Gaff wrote:
Hang on you lost me, you mean a car has an en suite Bidet?
Â* Really whatever next, a bowling alley, some swimming pools perhaps?


That's what I thought. The OP was more concerned about the
pronunciation of bidet rather questioning why a car needed a low oval
basin used for washing one's genital and anal area.Â* Or perhaps the
car dealer was suggesting that the vehicle being sold was ****.


Can't you clowns read? The car was described as having rear wash wipe.


No, it was described as having a bidet by an arsehole salesman.

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FMurtz September 23rd 17 12:28 PM

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Huge wrote:
On 2017-09-23, TheChief wrote:

[18 lines snipped]

Anyone know of a source for the definitive French pronunciation of
their language? Maybe it changes depending on region. I tried
looking in French ngs but they are spammed out of
usefulness.


Bee-day

http://howjsay.com/pronunciation-of-bidet

Look like Americans pronounce it incorrectly. No surprise there, then. Look
(or rather, listen) to the mess Americans make of "route" and New Englanders
make of "buoy".

And the funniest "soder" (solder)

Robin September 23rd 17 01:10 PM

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On 23/09/2017 12:28, FMurtz wrote:

And the funniest "soder" (solder)


The 3rd British pronunciation given by the OED similarly doesn't sound
the "l". I've heard it without by natives of the UK.




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Tjoepstil September 23rd 17 01:20 PM

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On 23/09/17 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.
This came up when I was repeating a car salesman's
description to
an American.
The salesman used the adjectives skinned, winded and bidet to
describe a car. Think this is just a way for this specific
garage to indicate leather trim, air conditioning and rear wash
wipe :)

Anyhow, my American colleague didn't get the word bidet, as I had
pronounced it bee-day. Looks like the Americans pronounce this
bid-day with the emphasis on the second syllable.


Americans can barely talk english let alone French..its Bee-day

The Other John[_3_] September 23rd 17 03:53 PM

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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:20:41 +0100, Tjoepstil wrote:

Americans can barely talk english let alone French..its Bee-day


It's like all this talk about 'hurry-cayns', we never had Hawker Hurrycayns
during the worwer! :)

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Rod Speed September 23rd 17 05:29 PM

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Brian Gaff wrote

They do in my view anyway, do lieutenant better, where did that f come
from?


Same place Cholmondeley came from.

I've always maintained that you lot have all sorts
of weird pronunciations so that its completely
trivial to work out who the wogs posing as brits
are, you don’t even have to smell their breath etc.

"Huge" wrote in message
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On 2017-09-23, TheChief wrote:

[18 lines snipped]

Anyone know of a source for the definitive French pronunciation of
their language? Maybe it changes depending on region. I tried
looking in French ngs but they are spammed out of
usefulness.


Bee-day

http://howjsay.com/pronunciation-of-bidet

Look like Americans pronounce it incorrectly. No surprise there, then.
Look
(or rather, listen) to the mess Americans make of "route" and New
Englanders
make of "buoy".

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Brian Gaff September 24th 17 08:36 AM

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No he was ****ing in the wind, more likely.
I noticed the other night that a documentary about ambulances in the UK
talked about shee-wees more than once. Obviously the death of the public
toilet has other ramifications.
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On 23/09/2017 10:50, Brian Gaff wrote:
Hang on you lost me, you mean a car has an en suite Bidet?
Really whatever next, a bowling alley, some swimming pools perhaps?


That's what I thought. The OP was more concerned about the pronunciation
of bidet rather questioning why a car needed a low oval basin used for
washing one's genital and anal area. Or perhaps the car dealer was
suggesting that the vehicle being sold was ****.


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Brian Gaff September 24th 17 08:39 AM

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Hmm, I am kayoing no more, I can soon see a huge raft of jokes coming along
in this thread.
Incidentally, a friend of mine wanted to put an aquarium in his old car in
the 1970s, but we convinced him that cornering at speed, something he liked
to do could make things a bit wet.
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
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In article , alan_m
wrote:

On 23/09/2017 10:50, Brian Gaff wrote:
Hang on you lost me, you mean a car has an en suite Bidet?
Really whatever next, a bowling alley, some swimming pools perhaps?


That's what I thought. The OP was more concerned about the pronunciation
of bidet rather questioning why a car needed a low oval basin used for
washing one's genital and anal area. Or perhaps the car dealer was
suggesting that the vehicle being sold was ****.


Can't you clowns read? The car was described as having rear wash wipe.

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Brian Gaff September 24th 17 08:41 AM

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I mean why can't he wash his genitals while sitting on the loo like the rest
of us plebs with nowhere to put a bloody bidet?
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On 23/09/2017 11:06, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , alan_m
wrote:

On 23/09/2017 10:50, Brian Gaff wrote:
Hang on you lost me, you mean a car has an en suite Bidet?
Really whatever next, a bowling alley, some swimming pools perhaps?

That's what I thought. The OP was more concerned about the pronunciation
of bidet rather questioning why a car needed a low oval basin used for
washing one's genital and anal area. Or perhaps the car dealer was
suggesting that the vehicle being sold was ****.


Can't you clowns read? The car was described as having rear wash wipe.


No, it was described as having a bidet by an arsehole salesman.

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Brian Gaff September 24th 17 08:43 AM

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Well that completely screwed up my speach synth. I had to step through it
one char at a time as it sounded like one of my pss typod massages.
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:50:13 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

Hang on you lost me, you mean a car has an en suite Bidet?
Really whatever next, a bowling alley, some swimming pools perhaps?
Brian


er, "bijoux" perhaps ?

You need to bear in mind the average USian has no better language skills
than the average Brit.




soup[_9_] September 25th 17 03:12 AM

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On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.


Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.

harry September 25th 17 08:28 AM

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On Saturday, 23 September 2017 10:11:36 UTC+1, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.
This came up when I was repeating a car salesman's
description to
an American.
The salesman used the adjectives skinned, winded and bidet to
describe a car. Think this is just a way for this specific
garage to indicate leather trim, air conditioning and rear wash
wipe :)

Anyhow, my American colleague didn't get the word bidet, as I had
pronounced it bee-day. Looks like the Americans pronounce this
bid-day with the emphasis on the second syllable.

Most people wouldn't give this a thought, but it's in the genes
for me as my father taught French and German, but is no longer
around to ask.

Anyone know of a source for the definitive French pronunciation of
their language? Maybe it changes depending on region. I tried
looking in French ngs but they are spammed out of
usefulness.

Thanks

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Bee-day

Dan S. MacAbre[_4_] September 25th 17 10:22 AM

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I used to be puzzled by such things, but nowadays I assume that at some
time in the past, some important or respected person cocked up the
pronunciation, and all the peasants just copied because they thought it
was the right thing to do. A bit (but not much) like the Emperor's new
clothes.

Brian Gaff wrote:
They do in my view anyway, do lieutenant better, where did that f come
from?
Brian



Dan S. MacAbre[_4_] September 25th 17 10:56 AM

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Huge wrote:
On 2017-09-25, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
I used to be puzzled by such things, but nowadays I assume that at some
time in the past, some important or respected person cocked up the
pronunciation, and all the peasants just copied because they thought it
was the right thing to do. A bit (but not much) like the Emperor's new
clothes.


Isn't a lisping King allegedly why Spanish is pronounced as it is?


I hadn't heard of that specifically, but I've sometimes thought that all
language-specific weirdnesses must have been caused by such things.
People copying those other people that they think they ought to be
copying, even when those other people have a speech impediment. Perhaps
they had courtiers who weren't brave enough to draw attention to it, so
they just went along with the whole thing, and from there it just spread
outward to the masses who couldn't even read. It's a nice thought :-)



Brian Gaff wrote:
They do in my view anyway, do lieutenant better, where did that f come
from?
Brian






Dan S. MacAbre[_4_] September 25th 17 11:38 AM

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Huge wrote:
On 2017-09-25, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
Huge wrote:
On 2017-09-25, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
I used to be puzzled by such things, but nowadays I assume that at some
time in the past, some important or respected person cocked up the
pronunciation, and all the peasants just copied because they thought it
was the right thing to do. A bit (but not much) like the Emperor's new
clothes.

Isn't a lisping King allegedly why Spanish is pronounced as it is?


I hadn't heard of that specifically,


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonol...ian_.27lisp.27


Excellent, thanks. It says the lisp hypothesis is discredited for lack
of evidence, but I'm going to choose to believe it anyway. It makes
perfect sense to me :-)

Max Demian September 25th 17 01:10 PM

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On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic.Â* I am looking for a
Â* definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.


Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.


In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your feet?"

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whisky-dave[_2_] September 25th 17 01:21 PM

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On Monday, 25 September 2017 13:10:18 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic.Â* I am looking for a
Â* definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.


Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.


In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your feet?"


They remind me of the water fountains for drinking in school playgrounds.


soup[_9_] September 25th 17 05:37 PM

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On 25/09/2017 15:01, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Huge


You could always pee in the bidet.


Then I may as well pee in the toilet bowl. The point of the urinal is
to be able to pee standing up while half-asleep at some point(s) during
the night.


Pee in the middle of the night - sitdown
Pee when bevvied - sitdown
Pee on an intercity coach - Hover over the seat
Pee in normal circumstances - stand-up
Pee behind a bush - stand-up


Rod Speed September 25th 17 05:52 PM

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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Huge
wrote:

On 2017-09-25, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.

Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.

In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your feet?"


Not everywhere. I was saddened that we don't have room for one in our
current house.


I think a urinal would be more useful.


Makes more sense to have all 3

And maybe something more permanent
for the little kids and grandkids etc too.

Wonder why someone hasnt come up with something that does them all.


Rod Speed September 25th 17 08:22 PM

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"Dan S. MacAbre" wrote in message
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I used to be puzzled by such things, but nowadays I assume that at some
time in the past, some important or respected person cocked up the
pronunciation, and all the peasants just copied because they thought it
was the right thing to do.


Doesn't explain the utterly bizarre local pronunciations
that come close to needing an interpreter for visitors.

A bit (but not much) like the Emperor's new clothes.


Brian Gaff wrote:
They do in my view anyway, do lieutenant better, where did that f come
from?
Brian



Johnny B Good September 25th 17 08:37 PM

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On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:28:19 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2017-09-25, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
Huge wrote:
On 2017-09-25, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
Huge wrote:
On 2017-09-25, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
I used to be puzzled by such things, but nowadays I assume that at
some time in the past, some important or respected person cocked up
the pronunciation, and all the peasants just copied because they
thought it was the right thing to do. A bit (but not much) like
the Emperor's new clothes.

Isn't a lisping King allegedly why Spanish is pronounced as it is?


I hadn't heard of that specifically,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Phonological_history_of_Spanish_coronal_fricatives #Castilian_.27lisp.27


Excellent, thanks. It says the lisp hypothesis is discredited for lack
of evidence, but I'm going to choose to believe it anyway. It makes
perfect sense to me :-)


Yeah, me too!


And, on a related theme, I'll take this chance to repeat my mini-rant
about the April Fool's prank perpetrated by a cowardly *******[1] in the
Beeb's RP department involving the cumbersome pronunciation of the
(appositely chosen) word, "controversy" that was issued several decades
ago now which moved the stress from the second to the third syllable,
simulating the effect of editing sound recordings of the words,
'controversy' and 'controversial' so as to make up a ******* version by
splicing the 'y' ending of the former in place of the 'ial' ending of the
latter to convert it into a parody of the former.

In this case, it wasn't so much a case of "Don't draw attention to the
leader's speech impediment!" so much as an abuse of power merely to
perpetrate a joke upon their employer, perhaps as a 'parting gift' on
being made redundant or given the sack... who knows? Whatever the reason,
whoever was responsible may well be long dead by now and anyone in on the
joke or belatedly aware of this egregious prank may simply not have the
cojones to admit that they (the corporation) had been well and truly
'Had'.

[1] Possibly the 'cowardly *******' may have just been a rhythmically
challenged ignoramus who should never have been allowed to lay down rules
of pronunciation or play any sort of percussive instrument in a musical
ensemble.

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Johnny B Good September 25th 17 08:47 PM

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On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:10:15 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic.Â* I am looking for a
Â* definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.


Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.


In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your feet?"


That's not a pronunciation, that's a question intended to address
ignorance of a novel item of lavatorial ware.

In Britain, I think most of its denizens are quite aware that the
correct pronunciation for the French word "bidet" is "bee-day". However,
when it comes to the capital city of France, even experts who should know
better, mispronounce "Paris" as 'pa-ris' instead of as 'pa-ree'. :-(

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charles September 25th 17 09:18 PM

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In article , Huge
wrote:
On 2017-09-25, Johnny B Good wrote:


[19 lines snipped]


In Britain, I think most of its denizens are quite aware that the
correct pronunciation for the French word "bidet" is "bee-day".
However, when it comes to the capital city of France, even experts who
should know better, mispronounce "Paris" as 'pa-ris' instead of as
'pa-ree'. :-(


When I am speaking English, I pronounce words in the English manner. That
may or may not be the same as the origin language of those words, but it
does not matter. Do you, for example, call the country Germany or
Deutschland?


Strangely, that is different - it's using a totally different word.

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Max Demian September 25th 17 10:41 PM

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On 25/09/2017 20:47, Johnny B Good wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:10:15 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:


Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic.Â* I am looking for a
Â* definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.

Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.


In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your feet?"


That's not a pronunciation, that's a question intended to address
ignorance of a novel item of lavatorial ware.

In Britain, I think most of its denizens are quite aware that the
correct pronunciation for the French word "bidet" is "bee-day". However,
when it comes to the capital city of France, even experts who should know
better, mispronounce "Paris" as 'pa-ris' instead of as 'pa-ree'. :-(


I used to be annoyed when people said, "Tour de France," pronouncing
France in the English way, rather than pronouncing the whole thing
Frenchified or translating it as, "Tour *of* France," in the English manner.

But there must be more worthwhile things to be annoyed at.

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Johnny B Good September 26th 17 02:28 AM

Absolutely Totally OT - French Pronunciation
 
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:41:43 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 25/09/2017 20:47, Johnny B Good wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:10:15 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:


Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic.Â* I am looking for a
Â* definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.

Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.

In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your
feet?"


That's not a pronunciation, that's a question intended to address
ignorance of a novel item of lavatorial ware.

In Britain, I think most of its denizens are quite aware that the
correct pronunciation for the French word "bidet" is "bee-day".
However, when it comes to the capital city of France, even experts who
should know better, mispronounce "Paris" as 'pa-ris' instead of as
'pa-ree'. :-(


I used to be annoyed when people said, "Tour de France," pronouncing
France in the English way, rather than pronouncing the whole thing
Frenchified or translating it as, "Tour *of* France," in the English
manner.

But there must be more worthwhile things to be annoyed at.


You weren't thinking about the controversy about the correct way to
pronounce the word "controversy" by any chance? :-)

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whisky-dave[_2_] September 26th 17 11:01 AM

Absolutely Totally OT - French Pronunciation
 
On Monday, 25 September 2017 17:52:56 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Huge
wrote:

On 2017-09-25, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.

Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.

In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your feet?"

Not everywhere. I was saddened that we don't have room for one in our
current house.


I think a urinal would be more useful.


Makes more sense to have all 3

And maybe something more permanent
for the little kids and grandkids etc too.

Wonder why someone hasnt come up with something that does them all.


Cost and space I'd think.



whisky-dave[_2_] September 26th 17 11:08 AM

Absolutely Totally OT - French Pronunciation
 
On Monday, 25 September 2017 22:41:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

I used to be annoyed when people said, "Tour de France," pronouncing
France in the English way, rather than pronouncing the whole thing
Frenchified or translating it as, "Tour *of* France," in the English manner.

But there must be more worthwhile things to be annoyed at.


Yeah the amercan way of pronouncing Caribbean !


Bob Eager[_5_] September 26th 17 11:17 AM

Absolutely Totally OT - French Pronunciation
 
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 03:01:29 -0700, whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 25 September 2017 17:52:56 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Huge
wrote:

On 2017-09-25, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.

Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.

In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your
feet?"

Not everywhere. I was saddened that we don't have room for one in our
current house.

I think a urinal would be more useful.


Makes more sense to have all 3

And maybe something more permanent for the little kids and grandkids
etc too.

Wonder why someone hasnt come up with something that does them all.


Cost and space I'd think.


Isn't that pretty well what the Japanese have?

https://goo.gl/F3bU4c

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Rod Speed September 26th 17 11:34 AM

Absolutely Totally OT - French Pronunciation
 


"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 25 September 2017 17:52:56 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Huge
wrote:

On 2017-09-25, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.

Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.

In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your
feet?"

Not everywhere. I was saddened that we don't have room for one in our
current house.

I think a urinal would be more useful.


Makes more sense to have all 3

And maybe something more permanent
for the little kids and grandkids etc too.

Wonder why someone hasnt come up with something that does them all.


Cost and space I'd think.


Dunno, can't see why it should take up any more space than
a separate bidet and ****ter or cost any more than both either.

The Japs already have combination ****ters and bidets.

Dunno what they do about little kids.

The chinese in singapore used to let the little kids run around
with no pants on at all. Likely wouldnt work that well in that
soggy little frigid island with all those terriers at large etc.


whisky-dave[_2_] September 26th 17 12:35 PM

Absolutely Totally OT - French Pronunciation
 
On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 11:40:23 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 25 September 2017 17:52:56 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Huge
wrote:

On 2017-09-25, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/09/2017 03:12, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2017 10:11, TheChief wrote:
Hi all

Sorry this couldn't be further from on topic. I am looking for a
definitive pronunciation for the French word bidet.

Sorry I am a bit late to the party, but:-

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pron.../english/bidet

Seems the pronunciation is different either side of the pond.

In Britain it's pronounced, "What's that thing for? Washing your
feet?"

Not everywhere. I was saddened that we don't have room for one in our
current house.

I think a urinal would be more useful.

Makes more sense to have all 3

And maybe something more permanent
for the little kids and grandkids etc too.

Wonder why someone hasnt come up with something that does them all.


Cost and space I'd think.


Dunno, can't see why it should take up any more space than
a separate bidet and ****ter or cost any more than both either.


Most people in the UK haven't got both and then there's the extra electrics adn the cost about £1,500. I on ly know 2 people with bidets and they don't like using them anyway, they find them uncomfortable and not very good at the job anyway. A jet of water up your arse won't remove klingons like a proper captain kirk would.


The Japs already have combination ****ters and bidets.


The japs have many strange things such as used underwear vending machines.


Dunno what they do about little kids.


I did see a TV program where they get 6 yeaolds to wear bikins and sell the images to pedos quite openly as it's not against the law to film 6 year-olds on line and allow people to watch/view .


The chinese in singapore used to let the little kids run around
with no pants on at all. Likely wouldnt work that well in that
soggy little frigid island with all those terriers at large etc.


But they do.



Max Demian September 26th 17 02:02 PM

Absolutely Totally OT - French Pronunciation
 
On 26/09/2017 12:35, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 11:40:23 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:


Dunno, can't see why it should take up any more space than
a separate bidet and ****ter or cost any more than both either.


Most people in the UK haven't got both and then there's the extra electrics adn the cost about £1,500.


An electric bidet? Why?

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Max Demian

whisky-dave[_2_] September 26th 17 02:21 PM

Absolutely Totally OT - French Pronunciation
 
On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 14:02:34 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 26/09/2017 12:35, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 11:40:23 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:


Dunno, can't see why it should take up any more space than
a separate bidet and ****ter or cost any more than both either.


Most people in the UK haven't got both and then there's the extra electrics adn the cost about £1,500.


An electric bidet? Why?


But those jap ones were advirtised with a remote control for raising or lowering the seat and with a seat warmer I doubt they are using gas so why wouldn't the bidet be electric ?



--
Max Demian



Rod Speed September 26th 17 10:34 PM

Absolutely Totally OT - French Pronunciation
 


"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 26/09/2017 12:35, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 11:40:23 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:


Dunno, can't see why it should take up any more space than
a separate bidet and ****ter or cost any more than both either.


Most people in the UK haven't got both and then there's the extra
electrics adn the cost about £1,500.


An electric bidet? Why?


They use hot air to dry your arse.



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