[Power] UK breaks solar power record, supplies more power thannuke
 

On 5/31/2017 10:34 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:

"The UK has surpassed its solar power record, generating 8.7 GW on
Friday afternoon from photovoltaic (PV) installations"

"Grid operator National Grid said PV generated 24.3 per cent of demand
at 1 pm, beating the previous record of 8.48 GW and for the first time
providing more power than the nation's eight nuclear plants"

http://www.powerengineeringint.com/a...-breaks-solar-
power-record.html

Now if they could just arrange for the sun to shine at night...

If conventional power generation is so inefficient it can't reduce its
output when other methods come on stream, something should be done.

Oh it can. Fortunately now we have a lot of CCGT, we used to rely on
coal for load following. Still, there is the capital cost of the un-used
plant to consider, and the largely imported gas. Unless we start
fracking of course.

[Power] UK breaks solar power record, supplies more power thannuke
 

On 04/06/17 19:55, newshound wrote:
On 5/31/2017 10:34 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:

"The UK has surpassed its solar power record, generating 8.7 GW on
Friday afternoon from photovoltaic (PV) installations"

"Grid operator National Grid said PV generated 24.3 per cent of demand
at 1 pm, beating the previous record of 8.48 GW and for the first time
providing more power than the nation's eight nuclear plants"

http://www.powerengineeringint.com/a...-breaks-solar-
power-record.html

Now if they could just arrange for the sun to shine at night...

If conventional power generation is so inefficient it can't reduce its
output when other methods come on stream, something should be done.

Oh it can. Fortunately now we have a lot of CCGT, we used to rely on
coal for load following. Still, there is the capital cost of the un-used
plant to consider, and the largely imported gas. Unless we start
fracking of course.

As usual Our Dave completely misses the point.

The cost of a power stain is the same whether its run flat out, or one
hour a day.

The only savings you make for one hour a day is a teeny bit of fuel, and
you lose that in heating it all up again after its been shut down.

Which is why renewable energy produces no carbon savings whatsoever
overall, and electricity is just getting more expensive.




--
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that
don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

[Power] UK breaks solar power record, supplies more power than nuke
 

In article , The Natural Philosopher
writes
On 02/06/17 19:39, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 31/05/2017 09:46, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

"The UK has surpassed its solar power record, generating 8.7 GW on
Friday afternoon from photovoltaic (PV) installations"

"Grid operator National Grid said PV generated 24.3 per cent of demand
at 1 pm, beating the previous record of 8.48 GW and for the first time
providing more power than the nation's eight nuclear plants"

http://www.powerengineeringint.com/a...-breaks-solar-
power-record.html

Now if they could just arrange for the sun to shine at night...


To be fair I posted this from the BBC on the 26th:-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40058074

The page has altered and now says

"A National Grid spokeswoman said the record level of solar power
was achieved largely because of the clear and sunny weather on Friday."

She added that it would have been significantly harder to reach if
it had been cloudy.
I don't know why whether it was cloudy or windy or not should be any
or
our concern. If wind(solar) can do x Gw at some given moment, then
we've obviously installed (and paid for) x Gw of capacity.
It should therefore be the responsibility of wind(solar) to be able
to
supply x Gw on a 7 x 24 basis. How they do that is not our concern.
If they can't do that then they are in breach of contract.

They would be if normal contracts applied to them.

They don't. They get full exemption as 'renewable' sources.

The whole climate change scam is supported by governments and
universities and all the power companies.

They aren't the losers. We are.



But now Donald T has seen through it.
--
bert

[Power] UK breaks solar power record, supplies more power than nuke
 

In article , Tim Streater
writes
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 02/06/17 19:39, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 31/05/2017 09:46, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

"The UK has surpassed its solar power record, generating 8.7 GW on
Friday afternoon from photovoltaic (PV) installations"

"Grid operator National Grid said PV generated 24.3 per cent of demand
at 1 pm, beating the previous record of 8.48 GW and for the first time
providing more power than the nation's eight nuclear plants"

http://www.powerengineeringint.com/a...-breaks-solar-
power-record.html

Now if they could just arrange for the sun to shine at night...

To be fair I posted this from the BBC on the 26th:-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40058074

The page has altered and now says

"A National Grid spokeswoman said the record level of solar power
was achieved largely because of the clear and sunny weather on Friday."

She added that it would have been significantly harder to reach if
it had been cloudy.
I don't know why whether it was cloudy or windy or not should be
any or
our concern. If wind(solar) can do x Gw at some given moment, then
we've obviously installed (and paid for) x Gw of capacity.
It should therefore be the responsibility of wind(solar) to be able
to
supply x Gw on a 7 x 24 basis. How they do that is not our concern.
If they can't do that then they are in breach of contract.

They would be if normal contracts applied to them.

They don't. They get full exemption as 'renewable' sources.

So is this the Govt unable to write contracts *again*? Just like with
PFI? Did the renewable shills come round with a contract with the ink
still wet, which said something like "we agree to supply some variable
amount of energy of our choosing to you from time to time, and you
agree to pay us lots of dosh and not enquire too deeply into how much
volts we are supplying" ?? And you mean gasp that the Govt *signed*
*it* without further ado? Well I'll be hornswoggled.

So which Govt was this and who were the guilty men that ****ed our
money away in this fashion?

Lib-Dem energy ministers in the coalition.
--
bert

[Power] UK breaks solar power record, supplies more power than nuke
 

In article , Tim Streater
writes
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 02/06/17 22:47, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 02/06/17 19:39, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 31/05/2017 09:46, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

"The UK has surpassed its solar power record, generating 8.7 GW on
Friday afternoon from photovoltaic (PV) installations"

"Grid operator National Grid said PV generated 24.3 per cent of demand
at 1 pm, beating the previous record of 8.48 GW and for the first time
providing more power than the nation's eight nuclear plants"

http://www.powerengineeringint.com/a...-breaks-solar-
power-record.html

Now if they could just arrange for the sun to shine at night...

To be fair I posted this from the BBC on the 26th:-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40058074

The page has altered and now says

"A National Grid spokeswoman said the record level of solar power
was achieved largely because of the clear and sunny weather on
Friday."

She added that it would have been significantly harder to reach
if it had been cloudy.

I don't know why whether it was cloudy or windy or not should be any or
our concern. If wind(solar) can do x Gw at some given moment, then
we've obviously installed (and paid for) x Gw of capacity.

It should therefore be the responsibility of wind(solar) to be able to
supply x Gw on a 7 x 24 basis. How they do that is not our concern.

If they can't do that then they are in breach of contract.

They would be if normal contracts applied to them.

They don't. They get full exemption as 'renewable' sources.
So is this the Govt unable to write contracts *again*? Just like
with
PFI? Did the renewable shills come round with a contract with the ink
still wet, which said something like "we agree to supply some variable
amount of energy of our choosing to you from time to time, and you
agree to pay us lots of dosh and not enquire too deeply into how much
volts we are supplying" ?? And you mean gasp that the Govt *signed*
*it* without further ado? Well I'll be hornswoggled.
So which Govt was this and who were the guilty men that ****ed our
money away in this fashion?

Mostly the European Union with Browns Milliband licking their
tailpipes.

"The Utilities Act 2000 gives the Secretary of State the power to
require electricity suppliers to supply a certain proportion of their
total sales in the United Kingdom from electricity generated from
renewable sources. A Renewables Obligation Order is issued annually
detailing the precise level of the obligation for the coming year-long
period of obligation and the level of the buy-out price. The
Renewables Obligation (England and Wales) was introduced by the
Department of Trade and Industry, the Renewables Obligation (Scotland)
was introduced by the Scottish Executives and the Northern Ireland
Renewables Obligation was introduced by the Department of Enterprise
Trade and Investment (DETINI). The Orders were subject to review in
2005/06 and new Orders came into effect on 1 April 2006. "

Ah, so it was the ****ing Labour Party giving money to big business for
doing not very much, then, eh? Where was Our Dave when we needed him?

The Labour party gives our money to anybody who claims to be able to
solve a problem for them.
--
bert

[Power] UK breaks solar power record, supplies more power thannuke
 

On 04/06/17 23:27, bert wrote:
The Labour party gives our money to anybody who claims to be able to
solve a problem for them.

The Labour party gives our money to anybody.

TFTFY.

--
"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".