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Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long
sides of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied
last night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the
two long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it
is not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We
have tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it
still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?
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She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


I've just used double-sided tape to keep a rug in place. Seems to be
working but it's only been down for a couple of days.
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 10:25:04 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
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She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


I've just used double-sided tape to keep a rug in place. Seems to be
working but it's only been down for a couple of days.


We used to sew the rubber ring from a Kilner Jar on the underside of each
corner - the rubber to floorboard friction tended to keep things in place.

Andew

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Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long sides
of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied last
night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the two
long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it is
not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We have
tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it still
rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


Self adhesive hook & loop tape using the hook side stuck ontothe rug?

Malcolm
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On 17/03/2017 10:25, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long sides
of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied last
night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the two
long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it is
not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We have
tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it still
rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


Self adhesive hook & loop tape using the hook side stuck ontothe rug?

Malcolm


Put it on top of a Costco plastic office chair mat. Works perfectly.


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Malcolm Race wrote:
On 17/03/2017 10:25, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long sides
of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied last
night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the two
long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it is
not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We have
tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it still
rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


Self adhesive hook & loop tape using the hook side stuck ontothe rug?

Malcolm


Put it on top of a Costco plastic office chair mat. Works perfectly.


I didn't think self adhesive would stay stuck for long, with the
tension needed. What I did and seemed to work well so far, was....

I stitched a 4mm centre hole steel washer at the four corners of the
rug, then drilled 4x holes through carpet for yellow plugs. Add four
1.5 No6 brass RH screws, with the sides of their heads ground so as to
make them oval headed so they would pass through the washers. I drilled
about 10mm out from the washer in the corner, so some tension would be
needed to hook washer onto the screw heads.

I had thought I might be able to stitch hooks to the fitted carpet, to
work with the washers, but I just couldn't manage to stitch with the
carpet flat even with a curved needle.
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On 17/03/17 10:25, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long
sides of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied
last night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the
two long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it
is not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We
have tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it
still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


We had this problem many years ago and gave up trying to solve it. It
seems to be due to the way the fitted carpet pile lies. Basically, the
rug moves in the direction of least resistance of the pile when trodden
on, but won't move back the other way when the pressure is released.

In the end I tried putting a few stitches of extremely tough thread
(used to sow leather) through the corners of the rug and through the
carpet to hold it in place. After a couple of weeks the carpet had been
badly damaged as the thread tore through it, as the rug continued to
move and its backing and the thread were stronger than that of the
carpet and its backing!

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Jeff Layman submitted this idea :
We had this problem many years ago and gave up trying to solve it. It seems
to be due to the way the fitted carpet pile lies. Basically, the rug moves in
the direction of least resistance of the pile when trodden on, but won't move
back the other way when the pressure is released.


We pulled it flat and straight last thing last night, closing the door
on it. I was up first up, looked in and there it was curled up along
one side.
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That also will be a trip hazard.
There used to be some backing for this, but cannot recall. The real main
issues are that yes, the backing is stretchy and too short in its relaxed
state, and the pile on the main carpet relaxes and allows the backing to
shrink. IN the end you end up fitting a completely new piece of backing and
trying to not stretch it.


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Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long sides
of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied last
night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the two long
sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it is not. The
same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We have tried
turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?



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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long
sides of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left
unoccupied last night, this morning it has rucked itself up again.
Its as if the two long sides are woven as if longer than the middle
section, but it is not. The same has happened with the past two rugs
placed there. We have tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes
no difference, it still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn
onto each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or
a screw fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


Have you tried four anvils?


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That also will be a trip hazard.


It was, hence the need to find a solution.
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On Friday, 17 March 2017 10:25:03 UTC, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long
sides of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied
last night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the
two long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it
is not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We
have tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it
still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


I have just nailed mine down.
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On Friday, 17 March 2017 10:25:03 UTC, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long
sides of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied
last night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the
two long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it
is not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We
have tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it
still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


I have just nailed mine down.


I'll be interested to see if that works. I wouldn't be surprised to see
the rug ripped as it moves against the nails when you walk across it.

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On Saturday, 18 March 2017 07:55:04 UTC, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 17/03/17 17:37, harry wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2017 10:25:03 UTC, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long
sides of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied
last night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the
two long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it
is not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We
have tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it
still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


I have just nailed mine down.


I'll be interested to see if that works. I wouldn't be surprised to see
the rug ripped as it moves against the nails when you walk across it.

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Did it years ago, no problems since.
You only need nail the "trailing " edge.
This allows the rug to be flipped over so SWMBO can vacuum under it.


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On 17/03/2017 17:37, harry wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2017 10:25:03 UTC, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long
sides of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied
last night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the
two long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it
is not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We
have tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it
still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


I have just nailed mine down.

Some people have solid floors, hence the need for a fitted
80/20 carpet with underlay.
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On Saturday, 18 March 2017 16:22:35 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 17/03/2017 17:37, harry wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2017 10:25:03 UTC, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long
sides of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left unoccupied
last night, this morning it has rucked itself up again. Its as if the
two long sides are woven as if longer than the middle section, but it
is not. The same has happened with the past two rugs placed there. We
have tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes no difference, it
still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn onto
each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or a screw
fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


I have just nailed mine down.

Some people have solid floors, hence the need for a fitted
80/20 carpet with underlay.


Screws and plugs in that case
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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fitted carpet, on top of which she has a large woven rug. The long
sides of the rug ruck up. It was flat when the room was left
unoccupied last night, this morning it has rucked itself up again.
Its as if the two long sides are woven as if longer than the middle
section, but it is not. The same has happened with the past two rugs
placed there. We have tried turning the rug 90 degrees and it makes
no difference, it still rucks up.

She is thinking double sided tape to keep it stretched out flat. I'm
thinking that will not last long. I'm thinking a curtain ring sewn
onto each corner, with either a hook sewn onto the fitted carpet, or
a screw fixed into the floor. Any better ideas please?


https://www.google.co.uk/#q=stop+rug+rucking+up



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Screws and plugs in that case


... and washers sewn to the underside corners, to hook over the heads.
Yes, so far it has worked 100%. I half expected if I got it too taught,
then the corners might curl, but it hasn't happened.
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On 19/03/17 09:13, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
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Screws and plugs in that case


... and washers sewn to the underside corners, to hook over the heads.
Yes, so far it has worked 100%. I half expected if I got it too taught,
then the corners might curl, but it hasn't happened.


you should have learned it, instead, then.

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Screws and plugs in that case


... and washers sewn to the underside corners, to hook over the heads.
Yes, so far it has worked 100%. I half expected if I got it too taught,
then the corners might curl, but it hasn't happened.


Please google:

dictionary taught
dictionary taut
dictionary tort


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The Natural Philosopher wrote on 19/03/2017 :
Please google:

dictionary taught
dictionary taut
dictionary tort


I knew well enough it was wrong, but unintentionally caught the send
button before correcting it. It seemed not worth following it up with a
correction because everyone, including you, knew I meant taut.
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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote on 19/03/2017 :
Please google:

dictionary taught
dictionary taut
dictionary tort


I knew well enough it was wrong, but unintentionally caught the send
button before correcting it. It seemed not worth following it up with
a correction because everyone, including you, knew I meant taut.


Consider yourself tort.


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