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Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? |
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whisky-dave writes Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Well a power washer wouldn't be much use. -- bert |
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:15:01 +0000, bert wrote:
In article , whisky-dave writes Doctors report rare case of ‘penile strangulation’ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Well a power washer wouldn't be much use. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:35:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to have one of these when I was working in the NHS https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click |
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On Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:07:47 UTC, Graham. wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:15:01 +0000, bert wrote: In article , whisky-dave writes Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Well a power washer wouldn't be much use. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter -- Or a laser cutter, but I'd have thought a block of ice would have worked after all you know the saying "what goes up must come down". |
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:35:06 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote: Doctors report rare case of ‘penile strangulation’ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Would they have used a medical "multimasrer" type tool? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...illating_tools says they won't cut flesh, I have to report I havn't tried to with my Work-zone, and anyway I don't possess a cock ring. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote: On Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:07:47 UTC, Graham. wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:15:01 +0000, bert wrote: In article , whisky-dave writes Doctors report rare case of ‘penile strangulation’ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Well a power washer wouldn't be much use. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter -- Or a laser cutter, but I'd have thought a block of ice would have worked after all you know the saying "what goes up must come down". The whole cold shower libedo killing thing is a myth. It's a wonder how it ever started. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On 16/03/2017 16:16, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:07:47 UTC, Graham. wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:15:01 +0000, bert wrote: In article , whisky-dave writes Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Well a power washer wouldn't be much use. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter -- Or a laser cutter, but I'd have thought a block of ice would have worked after all you know the saying "what goes up must come down". Depends on how long its been up! Cross your legs[1] and watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN0VtHez9xI [1] probably not voluntary anyway! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Unlikely the fire brigade would have much use for something more suitable. Its easy to see why they'd have an angle grinder. Less clear why the hospital doesnt have a better ring cutter tho given that they must get some who get normal rings impossible to get off fingers. Presumably because they are Irish. |
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Actually this is not uncommon. The usual treatment is ice so the errection
reduces enough for removal. Maybe this is just the Irish method, over kill. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "whisky-dave" wrote in message ... Doctors report rare case of 'penile strangulation' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? |
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On 16-Mar-17 4:12 PM, harry wrote:
On Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:35:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to have one of these when I was working in the NHS https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click It says in the article that standard medical equipment had not been effective. -- -- Colin Bignell |
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It says in the article that standard medical equipment had not been effective. I guess most jewellery is comparatively soft metal. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:35:06 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote: Doctors report rare case of ‘penile strangulation’ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Using an angle grinder on a "titanium-based ring" must have produced a decent shower of sparks. |
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"Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 16-Mar-17 4:12 PM, harry wrote: On Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:35:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to have one of these when I was working in the NHS https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click It says in the article that standard medical equipment had not been effective. So what was the angle grinder used for - actually to cut the ring or just to make the man so scared that his penis deflated all by itself? :-) I presume we aren't talking about a 6" (or bigger) diameter grinder but a very small precision one with a great deal of control over its movement to avoid taking a gouge out of flesh. Even heating of the metal by friction would be a problem. |
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On 16/03/2017 17:29, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Unlikely the fire brigade would have much use for something more suitable. Its easy to see why they'd have an angle grinder. Less clear why the hospital doesnt have a better ring cutter tho given that they must get some who get normal rings impossible to get off fingers. Presumably because they are Irish. Most rings are soft. Titanium is hard to cut. Pretty stupid to not use plastic. |
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"Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 16-Mar-17 4:12 PM, harry wrote: On Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:35:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to have one of these when I was working in the NHS https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click It says in the article that standard medical equipment had not been effective. But it isnt clear what the Irish consider to be standard medical equipment. I find it hard to believe that what is normally used to cut rings on fingers that cant be got past knuckles cant be used to cut a ring on a dick unless the dick ring was stupidly designed with much harder metal than finger rings normally are or the ring is thicker metal so the jaws can't be opened far enough or something. |
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"NY" wrote in message o.uk... "Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 16-Mar-17 4:12 PM, harry wrote: On Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:35:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to have one of these when I was working in the NHS https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click It says in the article that standard medical equipment had not been effective. So what was the angle grinder used for - actually to cut the ring or just to make the man so scared that his penis deflated all by itself? :-) I presume we aren't talking about a 6" (or bigger) diameter grinder but a very small precision one with a great deal of control over its movement Unlikely that the Eire fire brigade would routinely have one of those in the fire truck. to avoid taking a gouge out of flesh. Even heating of the metal by friction would be a problem. Corse the other real possibility is that some journo utterly mangled what was actually used to cut the ring. Lets not forget that immortal line that if you actually know anything about what actually happened with a particular news event, you can't even recognise it once a journo reports it. |
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On 16/03/17 20:24, NY wrote:
"Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 16-Mar-17 4:12 PM, harry wrote: On Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:35:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to have one of these when I was working in the NHS https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click It says in the article that standard medical equipment had not been effective. So what was the angle grinder used for - actually to cut the ring or just to make the man so scared that his penis deflated all by itself? :-) a vibrating - not rotating - diamond cutter (dremel sized) will cut anything hard but leave flesh alone as it just 'wobbles' a bit. I presume we aren't talking about a 6" (or bigger) diameter grinder but a very small precision one with a great deal of control over its movement to avoid taking a gouge out of flesh. Even heating of the metal by friction would be a problem. water solves that easily And the sharper the cutter the less heast. -- Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? Josef Stalin |
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dennis@home Wrote in message:
On 16/03/2017 17:29, Rod Speed wrote: whisky-dave wrote Doctors report rare case of ?penile strangulation? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Unlikely the fire brigade would have much use for something more suitable. Its easy to see why they'd have an angle grinder. Less clear why the hospital doesn?t have a better ring cutter tho given that they must get some who get normal rings impossible to get off fingers. Presumably because they are Irish. Most rings are soft. Titanium is hard to cut. Pretty stupid to not use plastic. Aye aye Dennis... -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 16-Mar-17 9:24 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 16-Mar-17 4:12 PM, harry wrote: On Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:35:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to have one of these when I was working in the NHS https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click It says in the article that standard medical equipment had not been effective. But it isnt clear what the Irish consider to be standard medical equipment. I find it hard to believe that what is normally used to cut rings on fingers that cant be got past knuckles cant be used to cut a ring on a dick unless the dick ring was stupidly designed with much harder metal than finger rings normally are or the ring is thicker metal so the jaws can't be opened far enough or something. According to the article, it was made from titanium. Finger rings are usually gold or platinum. -- -- Colin Bignell |
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writes Using an angle grinder on a "titanium-based ring" must have produced a decent shower of sparks. Hope he shaved his pubes, otherwise instant bonfire :-) -- Graeme |
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On 3/16/2017 6:29 PM, Nightjar wrote:
On 16-Mar-17 4:12 PM, harry wrote: On Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:35:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to have one of these when I was working in the NHS https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click It says in the article that standard medical equipment had not been effective. Yes, that would be fine for brass, silver or gold, not so good on titanium (or stainless steel)! Dremel cutting disk at low speed, someone else misting with water to keep it cool. |
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In article , Graham.
writes On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:15:01 +0000, bert wrote: In article , whisky-dave writes Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Well a power washer wouldn't be much use. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter I think I'd try WD40 first. -- bert |
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:15:01 +0000, bert wrote:
In article , whisky-dave writes Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Well a power washer wouldn't be much use. The mistake that chap made with his 'poor chap' was in using a titanium ring. Titanium is a bugger to machine (and therefore cut) unlike brass, silver or gold (or even stainless steel). It surprises me that the medics didn't think to use leeches which, just for once ISTM, would have been a valid choice to drain the excess of blood and deflate the erection. One has to wonder just how small a diameter of ring did this chap choose to use on his 'chap'? -- Johnny B Good |
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In article , Johnny B Good
writes On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:15:01 +0000, bert wrote: In article , whisky-dave writes Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Well a power washer wouldn't be much use. The mistake that chap made with his 'poor chap' was in using a titanium ring. Titanium is a bugger to machine (and therefore cut) unlike brass, silver or gold (or even stainless steel). It surprises me that the medics didn't think to use leeches which, just for once ISTM, would have been a valid choice to drain the excess of blood and deflate the erection. 19th century technology strikes again One has to wonder just how small a diameter of ring did this chap choose to use on his 'chap'? Too small. -- bert |
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On 17/03/2017 14:53, Johnny B Good wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:15:01 +0000, bert wrote: In article , whisky-dave writes Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Well a power washer wouldn't be much use. The mistake that chap made with his 'poor chap' was in using a titanium ring. Titanium is a bugger to machine (and therefore cut) unlike brass, silver or gold (or even stainless steel). It surprises me that the medics didn't think to use leeches which, just for once ISTM, would have been a valid choice to drain the excess of blood and deflate the erection. One has to wonder just how small a diameter of ring did this chap choose to use on his 'chap'? Part of the difficulty I suspect that if you get swelling beyond that normally expected (i.e. things balloon up either side of the ring), even a "normal" deflating may not be enough to slide it off. Add to that the comment made in the video I linked above about how after 4 hours ischemia sets in, and the blood basically starts to clot. Its then often too thick to flow our via the normal mechanisms - and someone has to get stab happy with something pointy! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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whisky-dave wrote:
Doctors report rare case of 'penile strangulation' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to bend 25mm steel rods over mine as a party piece. Can't do it now though, my wrists are ****ed. |
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:35:06 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of 'penile strangulation' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Using an angle grinder on a "titanium-based ring" must have produced a decent shower of sparks. Not to mention the shower of obscenities |
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On Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:16:45 UTC, Graham. wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:35:06 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? Would they have used a medical "multimasrer" type tool? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...illating_tools says they won't cut flesh, I have to report I havn't tried to with my Work-zone, and anyway I don't possess a cock ring. They have oscillating "angle grinders" in the NHS. They're used for cutting away plaster casts. We used to get them in for repair from time to time. |
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On 17/03/17 16:39, John Rumm wrote:
Part of the difficulty I suspect that if you get swelling beyond that normally expected (i.e. things balloon up either side of the ring), even a "normal" deflating may not be enough to slide it off. Add to that the comment made in the video I linked above about how after 4 hours ischemia sets in, and the blood basically starts to clot. Its then often too thick to flow our via the normal mechanisms - and someone has to get stab happy with something pointy! Your knowledge of the subject is disturbing, John! |
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"Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 16-Mar-17 9:24 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 16-Mar-17 4:12 PM, harry wrote: On Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:35:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of €˜penile strangulation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to have one of these when I was working in the NHS https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click It says in the article that standard medical equipment had not been effective. But it isnt clear what the Irish consider to be standard medical equipment. I find it hard to believe that what is normally used to cut rings on fingers that cant be got past knuckles cant be used to cut a ring on a dick unless the dick ring was stupidly designed with much harder metal than finger rings normally are or the ring is thicker metal so the jaws can't be opened far enough or something. According to the article, it was made from titanium. Finger rings are usually gold or platinum. Not necessarily solid gold or platinum tho. |
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On 17/03/2017 18:03, Tim Watts wrote:
On 17/03/17 16:39, John Rumm wrote: Part of the difficulty I suspect that if you get swelling beyond that normally expected (i.e. things balloon up either side of the ring), even a "normal" deflating may not be enough to slide it off. Add to that the comment made in the video I linked above about how after 4 hours ischemia sets in, and the blood basically starts to clot. Its then often too thick to flow our via the normal mechanisms - and someone has to get stab happy with something pointy! Your knowledge of the subject is disturbing, John! Not half as disturbing as the remedies suggested by the urologist in the video ;-) fx: crosses legs -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 17/03/2017 19:37, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/03/2017 18:03, Tim Watts wrote: On 17/03/17 16:39, John Rumm wrote: Part of the difficulty I suspect that if you get swelling beyond that normally expected (i.e. things balloon up either side of the ring), even a "normal" deflating may not be enough to slide it off. Add to that the comment made in the video I linked above about how after 4 hours ischemia sets in, and the blood basically starts to clot. Its then often too thick to flow our via the normal mechanisms - and someone has to get stab happy with something pointy! Your knowledge of the subject is disturbing, John! Not half as disturbing as the remedies suggested by the urologist in the video ;-) fx: crosses legs Would anyone here be stupid enough to use a titanium ring when they probably have some cable ties in the tools box? |
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On 17/03/17 20:26, dennis@home wrote:
Would anyone here be stupid enough to use a titanium ring when they probably have some cable ties in the tools box? Velcro tape (cable tidy, double sided/self joining) would be a better bet. Not that I've thought too much about this application! |
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On 17/03/2017 20:36, Tim Watts wrote:
On 17/03/17 20:26, dennis@home wrote: Would anyone here be stupid enough to use a titanium ring when they probably have some cable ties in the tools box? Velcro tape (cable tidy, double sided/self joining) would be a better bet. Not that I've thought too much about this application! Maybe he should have used a fitbit? |
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On 17/03/2017 20:26, dennis@home wrote:
On 17/03/2017 19:37, John Rumm wrote: On 17/03/2017 18:03, Tim Watts wrote: On 17/03/17 16:39, John Rumm wrote: Part of the difficulty I suspect that if you get swelling beyond that normally expected (i.e. things balloon up either side of the ring), even a "normal" deflating may not be enough to slide it off. Add to that the comment made in the video I linked above about how after 4 hours ischemia sets in, and the blood basically starts to clot. Its then often too thick to flow our via the normal mechanisms - and someone has to get stab happy with something pointy! Your knowledge of the subject is disturbing, John! Not half as disturbing as the remedies suggested by the urologist in the video ;-) fx: crosses legs Would anyone here be stupid enough to use a titanium ring when they probably have some cable ties in the tools box? Don't they pinch? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Phil L wrote:
whisky-dave wrote: Doctors report rare case of 'penile strangulation' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39285486 but did they really need to use an angle grinter ? I used to bend 25mm steel rods over mine as a party piece. Can't do it now though, my wrists are ****ed. It all seems like a load of rot, bolt cutter type cutters would work, titanium is not all that invincible |
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He must have been doing it himself
On 18/03/2017 02:53, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/03/2017 20:26, dennis@home wrote: On 17/03/2017 19:37, John Rumm wrote: On 17/03/2017 18:03, Tim Watts wrote: On 17/03/17 16:39, John Rumm wrote: Part of the difficulty I suspect that if you get swelling beyond that normally expected (i.e. things balloon up either side of the ring), even a "normal" deflating may not be enough to slide it off. Add to that the comment made in the video I linked above about how after 4 hours ischemia sets in, and the blood basically starts to clot. Its then often too thick to flow our via the normal mechanisms - and someone has to get stab happy with something pointy! Your knowledge of the subject is disturbing, John! Not half as disturbing as the remedies suggested by the urologist in the video ;-) fx: crosses legs Would anyone here be stupid enough to use a titanium ring when they probably have some cable ties in the tools box? Don't they pinch? They might if you tighten them after fitting. I was thinking of the velcro ones at the time. Maybe you were thinking of the metal fold over ones? |
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He must have been doing it himself
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ischemia sets in, and the blood basically starts to clot. Its then often too thick to flow our via the normal mechanisms - and someone has to get stab happy with something pointy! Does "clot" describe the congealed blood or the person who uses the ring - or both? :-) |
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He must have been doing it himself
On 18/03/2017 12:26, dennis@home wrote:
On 18/03/2017 02:53, John Rumm wrote: On 17/03/2017 20:26, dennis@home wrote: On 17/03/2017 19:37, John Rumm wrote: On 17/03/2017 18:03, Tim Watts wrote: On 17/03/17 16:39, John Rumm wrote: Part of the difficulty I suspect that if you get swelling beyond that normally expected (i.e. things balloon up either side of the ring), even a "normal" deflating may not be enough to slide it off. Add to that the comment made in the video I linked above about how after 4 hours ischemia sets in, and the blood basically starts to clot. Its then often too thick to flow our via the normal mechanisms - and someone has to get stab happy with something pointy! Your knowledge of the subject is disturbing, John! Not half as disturbing as the remedies suggested by the urologist in the video ;-) fx: crosses legs Would anyone here be stupid enough to use a titanium ring when they probably have some cable ties in the tools box? Don't they pinch? They might if you tighten them after fitting. I was thinking of the velcro ones at the time. Maybe you were thinking of the metal fold over ones? Just the normal zip tie nylon type... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |