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Is 80gms paper getting thinner?
Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it!
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dave wrote:
Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive Were you not aware of the EU plot to devalue the gram? There are now to be 1250 in a kg. This is an alternative fact, but no less true because of that. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 12/02/17 13:32, dave wrote:
Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive What are you paying? You can usually find it somewhere for around £2 per ream. |
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On 12/02/2017 13:32, dave wrote:
Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive It depends if measure by mass or by weight. The Gravitation Constant does vary from year to year! https://phys.org/news/2015-04-gravit...tant-vary.html |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 +0000, dave wrote:
Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I suspect if it is getting thinner - then it will be getting wider or longer if it is to maintain the 80gm spec. |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:02:03 +0000, R D S wrote:
On 12/02/17 13:32, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive What are you paying? You can usually find it somewhere for around £2 per ream. I'm clearly on planet Zog - Tescozog that is - @ £5.50/500 |
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Judith wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 +0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I suspect if it is getting thinner - then it will be getting wider or longer if it is to maintain the 80gm spec. It could be for better quality,but should be the same weight. |
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Judith wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 +0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I suspect if it is getting thinner - then it will be getting wider or longer if it is to maintain the 80gm spec. You fail to allow for the possibility that it is getting denser. Slightly less unlikely than the size of A4 changing significantly. -- Roger Hayter |
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wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 +0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I suspect if it is getting thinner - then it will be getting wider or longer if it is to maintain the 80gm spec. unless the sq metre is changed that won't happen. Mind you there's a lot of 75gsm paper about. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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charles wrote:
In article , Judith wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 +0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I suspect if it is getting thinner - then it will be getting wider or longer if it is to maintain the 80gm spec. unless the sq metre is changed that won't happen. Mind you there's a lot of 75gsm paper about. What is a decent weight for everyday inkjet text printing? Nothing too posh is required. |
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On 12/02/2017 13:32, dave wrote:
Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I think they are adding a lot of depleted uranium to the paper now to get rid of it. |
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On Sunday, 12 February 2017 16:50:18 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
What is a decent weight for everyday inkjet text printing? Nothing too posh is required. 75 or 80gsm NT |
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On 12/02/2017 17:13, Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:09:17 +0000, (Roger Hayter) wrote: Judith wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 +0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I suspect if it is getting thinner - then it will be getting wider or longer if it is to maintain the 80gm spec. You fail to allow for the possibility that it is getting denser. Slightly less unlikely than the size of A4 changing significantly. Don't they put china clay in the mix? I thought that was only for glossy, or sheen effect? BICBW |
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On Sunday, 12 February 2017 16:09:19 UTC, Roger Hayter wrote:
You fail to allow for the possibility that it is getting denser. Slightly less unlikely than the size of A4 changing significantly. Paper can vary significantly in density depending on how it is processed during manufacture, and thus change the bulk/caliper. Book paper is often a looser, bulkier weave than bond/writing paper. Owain |
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escribió: What are you paying? You can usually find it somewhere for around £2 per ream. My local Morrisons had reams of Canon 80gsm paper on offer at 2 quid ea recently. It's superb quality so I went back and grabbed a couple more. -- (\_/) (='.'=) systemd: the Linux version of Windows 10 (")_(") |
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"R D S" wrote in message ... On 12/02/17 13:32, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive What are you paying? You can usually find it somewhere for around £2 per ream. Wilkinsons £2.40 -- Dave W |
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pamela wrote:
On 19:53 12 Feb 2017, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: wrote: On Sunday, 12 February 2017 16:50:18 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: What is a decent weight for everyday inkjet text printing? Nothing too posh is required. 75 or 80gsm NT Taa. I do very little printing and had run out of the paper I bought nearly 10 years ago. I had bought quite a lot. Soooooooooo, whilst in some Pound shop ages ago I bought some. The print quality was utter crap even after I did all the things I supposed to do with the printer. The printer is ancient ----------- was it the printer or the paper? Has to be the paper, there is no weight on the packaging. Poor quality printer ink will spread out more and produce less distinct lettering. The ink is okay. I omitted to mention that I used the ink and printer on my last few sheets of decent paper. It was fine |
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Is this recycled paper?
Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "dave" wrote in message ... Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive |
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pamela wrote:
On 20:14 12 Feb 2017, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: pamela wrote: On 19:53 12 Feb 2017, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: wrote: On Sunday, 12 February 2017 16:50:18 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: What is a decent weight for everyday inkjet text printing? Nothing too posh is required. 75 or 80gsm NT Taa. I do very little printing and had run out of the paper I bought nearly 10 years ago. I had bought quite a lot. Soooooooooo, whilst in some Pound shop ages ago I bought some. The print quality was utter crap even after I did all the things I supposed to do with the printer. The printer is ancient ----------- was it the printer or the paper? Has to be the paper, there is no weight on the packaging. Poor quality printer ink will spread out more and produce less distinct lettering. The ink is okay. I omitted to mention that I used the ink and printer on my last few sheets of decent paper. It was fine I'm surprised that you do so little printing that you can manage with an ancient printer and 10 year stockpile of paper. I print a lot including articles or web pages that I find too tiring to read on screen. I go through loads of paper. The original £350 HP printer packed in ages ago, I was given a Epson Stylus R300 which came with ink carts, exempt the black which was of course was empty on the printer. Got some online and the printer printed fine on the last sheets of decent paper. |
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On 12/02/2017 20:19, pamela wrote:
I print a lot including articles or web pages that I find too tiring to read on screen. Get a better screen. I spend all day looking at screens, and don't have a problem. I usually only print things when I want a hard copy record to file. Andy |
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On 12/02/2017 14:02, R D S wrote:
On 12/02/17 13:32, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive What are you paying? You can usually find it somewhere for around £2 per ream. I bought a couple of reams this afternoon, £1.99 each at Clas Ohlson. I've been using this stuff for a while, it's good quality. Cheers -- Clive |
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On 12/02/2017 16:09, Roger Hayter wrote:
Judith wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 +0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I suspect if it is getting thinner - then it will be getting wider or longer if it is to maintain the 80gm spec. You fail to allow for the possibility that it is getting denser. Slightly less unlikely than the size of A4 changing significantly. A0 is one square metre. A4 is one sixteenth of a square meter. One sheet of 80gsm A4 weighs 5g. Cheers -- Clive |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:02:03 -0000, R D S wrote:
On 12/02/17 13:32, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive What are you paying? You can usually find it somewhere for around £2 per ream. £5 including delivery, buying 5 reams at once. Show me where you pay £2! -- Thank you velly much. I'm not Wan King the chef, I'm Fu King the owner. |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 -0000, dave wrote:
Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive 0.1mm per sheet - a good way to count it is to use a micrometer. -- Thank you velly much. I'm not Wan King the chef, I'm Fu King the owner. |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:52:01 -0000, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:54:35 +0000, Andy Bennet wrote: On 12/02/2017 13:32, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I think they are adding a lot of depleted uranium to the paper now to get rid of it. chuckle I know a lot of paper these days fluoresces under UV light, but that's not from its uranium content! (They actually add fluorescent dyes to the mix to make it appear extra white, Wouldn't that make it extra purple? in much the same way as they add them to detergents to make your whites whiter, and fluoresce under 'black light' i.e. UV illumination in night clubs etc)). Besides, uranium salts are yellow, which isn't what paper mfrs want. -- In an attempt to attract a more modern, hipper, high tech type of customer, Campbell's Alphabet Soup now comes with spell check. |
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On 12/02/2017 22:55, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I know a lot of paper these days fluoresces under UV light, but that's not from its uranium content! (They actually add fluorescent dyes to the mix to make it appear extra white, Wouldn't that make it extra purple? New persic, washes your togas even purpler. |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:50:37 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 -0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive 0.1mm per sheet - a good way to count it is to use a micrometer. Why would you actually want to count it? |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 01:19:55 -0000, Judith wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:50:37 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 -0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive 0.1mm per sheet - a good way to count it is to use a micrometer. Why would you actually want to count it? To print 200 sheets of something. Despite this being the 21st century, printers are useless at counting. They tend to forget where they got up to when the cartridge runs out etc. -- Freeze mother stickers, this is a **** up! |
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On Sunday, 12 February 2017 20:41:26 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
pamela wrote: On 20:14 12 Feb 2017, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: pamela wrote: On 19:53 12 Feb 2017, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: tabbypurr wrote: On Sunday, 12 February 2017 16:50:18 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: What is a decent weight for everyday inkjet text printing? Nothing too posh is required. 75 or 80gsm NT Taa. I do very little printing and had run out of the paper I bought nearly 10 years ago. I had bought quite a lot. Soooooooooo, whilst in some Pound shop ages ago I bought some. The print quality was utter crap even after I did all the things I supposed to do with the printer. The printer is ancient ----------- was it the printer or the paper? Has to be the paper, there is no weight on the packaging. Poor quality printer ink will spread out more and produce less distinct lettering. The ink is okay. I omitted to mention that I used the ink and printer on my last few sheets of decent paper. It was fine I'm surprised that you do so little printing that you can manage with an ancient printer and 10 year stockpile of paper. I print a lot including articles or web pages that I find too tiring to read on screen. I go through loads of paper. The original £350 HP printer packed in ages ago, I was given a Epson Stylus R300 which came with ink carts, exempt the black which was of course was empty on the printer. Got some online and the printer printed fine on the last sheets of decent paper. You forgot to tell us what the problem was, but generally inkjet should print onto any paper. Lasers can suffer dropouts due to conductive patches in recycled paper. NT |
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in 1564817 20170212 155841 dave wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:02:03 +0000, R D S wrote: On 12/02/17 13:32, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive What are you paying? You can usually find it somewhere for around �2 per ream. I'm clearly on planet Zog - Tescozog that is - @ �5.50/500 I just got some on eBay for £5 including postage, delivered the day after ordering. http://preview.tinyurl.com/zqrom7r |
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On 12/02/2017 22:50, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 -0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive 0.1mm per sheet - a good way to count it is to use a micrometer. There's a hole in my bucket dear birdbrain, dear birdbrain. The OP was complaining about the variable thickness of 80gsm paper which suggests the density of the sheets - and hence the thickness - is variable. A better way to 'count' sheets would be to weigh them. Each A4 sheet occupies an area of 0.06237m2 (297 x 210mm). Therefore 16.0333493666827 sheets per m2. Each sheet must always weigh 0.200416867083534 grams regardless of thickness (otherwise it is not 80gsm paper). |
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On 13/02/2017 08:57, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 12/02/2017 22:50, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 -0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive 0.1mm per sheet - a good way to count it is to use a micrometer. There's a hole in my bucket dear birdbrain, dear birdbrain. The OP was complaining about the variable thickness of 80gsm paper which suggests the density of the sheets - and hence the thickness - is variable. A better way to 'count' sheets would be to weigh them. Each A4 sheet occupies an area of 0.06237m2 (297 x 210mm). Therefore 16.0333493666827 sheets per m2. Each sheet must always weigh 0.200416867083534 grams regardless of thickness (otherwise it is not 80gsm paper). Ooops pressed go too soon. Each sheet must always weigh 4.9896 grams regardless of thickness (otherwise it is not 80gsm paper). |
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On 13/02/17 07:59, Bob Martin wrote:
I just got some on eBay for £5 including postage, delivered the day after ordering. http://preview.tinyurl.com/zqrom7r I missed this one! 99p + 99p delivery http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Double-A-8...-/361901116241 -- Adrian C |
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On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 4:09:19 PM UTC, Roger Hayter wrote:
Judith wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:32 +0000, dave wrote: Is 80 gms printer paper getting thinner - or am I just imagining it! Certainly getting more expensive I suspect if it is getting thinner - then it will be getting wider or longer if it is to maintain the 80gm spec. You fail to allow for the possibility that it is getting denser. Slightly less unlikely than the size of A4 changing significantly. and in any case it's 80 grams *per square metre*, so changing the size of A4 would have no effect. Robert |
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On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:36:43 PM UTC, Clive Arthur wrote:
A0 is one square metre. How interesting, I didn't know that. 841mm x 1189 mm = 1 square metre :-) Also of course 1189/841 = 1.414 = sqrt(2) |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 01:52:52 -0800, RobertL wrote:
On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:36:43 PM UTC, Clive Arthur wrote: A0 is one square metre. How interesting, I didn't know that. 841mm x 1189 mm = 1 square metre :-) Also of course 1189/841 = 1.414 = sqrt(2) This is quite interesting; I found it a while ago. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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