What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.

In article om,
F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.

Perhaps we have a colder climate than you have, so that people might/would
take electric fires into their bathrooms - and then drop them in the bath
water.

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On Friday, 27 January 2017 05:48:04 UTC, charles wrote:
In article om,
F Murtz wrote:

What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.

Perhaps we have a colder climate than you have, so that people might/would
take electric fires into their bathrooms - and then drop them in the bath
water.

this might be why:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Domestic_Hot_Water


NT

F Murtz wrote

What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,

They keep the coal in the bath and the last thing they need is any
of that new fangled electricity setting it alight and wasting it.

in Australia almost every bathroom built
in the last 20 years and many before

Almost all in more than 50 years in fact.

have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our
electrocution in bathrooms is any worse than yours.

They are too stupid to use it sensibly.

charles wrote
F Murtz wrote

What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the
UK,in Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years
and many before have a power point in the bathroom and I
doubt our electrocution in bathrooms is any worse than yours.

Perhaps we have a colder climate than you have,

Not enough to matter.

so that people might/would take
electric fires into their bathrooms

Plenty do that here, including me.

- and then drop them in the bath water.

Yes, you lot likely are that stupid. Great, get
some natural selection back into the system.

On 27/01/17 05:37, F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.

Seems to me it's to stop those with wet hair drying it with a
non-earthed, non-double insulated hair drier while sitting in the bath.

And, of course, an rcd knows when it's connected to a socket in the
bathroom and will refuse to trip under those circumstances, thus
ensuring electrocution for anyone silly enough to use such a socket.
It's sooooo much safer to run an extension lead into the bathroom
(unless the trip involved with that is catching your foot on it and
falling down the stairs).

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No but in both countries they do take tellies and radios in and drop them in
baths.
Maybe they are more educated on health and safety over there?
Brian

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In article om,
F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.

Perhaps we have a colder climate than you have, so that people might/would
take electric fires into their bathrooms - and then drop them in the bath
water.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

"F Murtz" wrote in message
eb.com...
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many before
have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution in
bathrooms is any worse than yours.


yes I want to plug in my power hungry DAB radio ........

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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No but in both countries they do take tellies and radios in and drop them
in baths.
Maybe they are more educated on health and safety over there?
Brian

perhaps like America electrics aren't over engineered ........

On 27/01/2017 05:37, F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.


It would seem to be significantly worse in fact. From :

http://www.erac.gov.au/images/Downlo...02009-2010.pdf


Quick Facts 09€�10 financial year

"28 electrical deaths were recorded in Australia and New Zealand in
2009€� 10. This is equivalent to 1.10 deaths per million population
(pmp). This was a steep increase from 16 deaths in 2008 €� 09. However,
the 1.10 deaths pmp for the 2009 €� 10 is only slightly greater than the
ten year average deaths pmp of 1.07"




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On 27/01/2017 11:15, John Rumm wrote:
On 27/01/2017 05:37, F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.


It would seem to be significantly worse in fact. From :

http://www.erac.gov.au/images/Downlo...02009-2010.pdf


Quick Facts 09€�10 financial year

"28 electrical deaths were recorded in Australia and New Zealand in
2009€� 10. This is equivalent to 1.10 deaths per million population
(pmp). This was a steep increase from 16 deaths in 2008 €� 09. However,
the 1.10 deaths pmp for the 2009 €� 10 is only slightly greater than the
ten year average deaths pmp of 1.07"



Should have added - we also had 28 deaths recorded for 2010 - but in a
significantly larger population.


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John.

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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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On 27/01/2017 05:37, F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.


It would seem to be significantly worse in fact. From :

http://www.erac.gov.au/images/Downlo...02009-2010.pdf


Quick Facts 09€�10 financial year

"28 electrical deaths were recorded in Australia and New Zealand in 2009€�
10. This is equivalent to 1.10 deaths per million population (pmp). This
was a steep increase from 16 deaths in 2008 €� 09. However, the 1.10 deaths
pmp for the 2009 €� 10 is only slightly greater than the ten year average
deaths pmp of 1.07"

Those weren't in BATHROOMS. They were in fact hardly ever in bathrooms.

On Friday, 27 January 2017 18:21:15 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 27/01/2017 05:37, F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.


It would seem to be significantly worse in fact. From :

http://www.erac.gov.au/images/Downlo...02009-2010.pdf


Quick Facts 09€�10 financial year

"28 electrical deaths were recorded in Australia and New Zealand in 2009€�
10. This is equivalent to 1.10 deaths per million population (pmp). This
was a steep increase from 16 deaths in 2008 €� 09. However, the 1.10 deaths
pmp for the 2009 €� 10 is only slightly greater than the ten year average
deaths pmp of 1.07"

Those weren't in BATHROOMS. They were in fact hardly ever in bathrooms.

You don't bathe often, then?

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On Friday, 27 January 2017 18:21:15 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 27/01/2017 05:37, F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our
electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.


It would seem to be significantly worse in fact. From :

http://www.erac.gov.au/images/Downlo...02009-2010.pdf


Quick Facts 09€�10 financial year

"28 electrical deaths were recorded in Australia and New Zealand in
2009€�
10. This is equivalent to 1.10 deaths per million population (pmp).
This
was a steep increase from 16 deaths in 2008 €� 09. However, the 1.10
deaths
pmp for the 2009 €� 10 is only slightly greater than the ten year
average
deaths pmp of 1.07"

Those weren't in BATHROOMS. They were in fact hardly ever in bathrooms.

You don't bathe often, then?

We do in fact bathe more often than you lot and very few of those
2* who are electrocuted every year get electrocuted in the bathroom.
So the British regulations on power points in the bathroom are stupid
and unnecessary unless you lot are a lot more stupid than we are.

On 27/01/2017 11:23, John Rumm wrote:
On 27/01/2017 11:15, John Rumm wrote:
On 27/01/2017 05:37, F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.


It would seem to be significantly worse in fact. From :

http://www.erac.gov.au/images/Downlo...02009-2010.pdf


Quick Facts 09€�10 financial year

"28 electrical deaths were recorded in Australia and New Zealand in
2009€� 10. This is equivalent to 1.10 deaths per million population
(pmp). This was a steep increase from 16 deaths in 2008 €� 09. However,
the 1.10 deaths pmp for the 2009 €� 10 is only slightly greater than the
ten year average deaths pmp of 1.07"



Should have added - we also had 28 deaths recorded for 2010 - but in a
significantly larger population.


Interesting, thanks. But I was shocked to see that 46% (13) of the 28
deaths in ANZ were "workplace accidents". That's a much higher
proportion than here - 6 "work related".

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On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:50:36 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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On Friday, 27 January 2017 18:21:15 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 27/01/2017 05:37, F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our
electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.


It would seem to be significantly worse in fact. From :

http://www.erac.gov.au/images/Downlo...02009-2010.pdf


Quick Facts 09?10 financial year

"28 electrical deaths were recorded in Australia and New Zealand in
2009?
10. This is equivalent to 1.10 deaths per million population (pmp).
This
was a steep increase from 16 deaths in 2008 ? 09. However, the 1.10
deaths
pmp for the 2009 ? 10 is only slightly greater than the ten year
average
deaths pmp of 1.07"

Those weren't in BATHROOMS. They were in fact hardly ever in bathrooms.

You don't bathe often, then?

We do in fact bathe more often than you lot and very few of those
2* who are electrocuted every year get electrocuted in the bathroom.
So the British regulations on power points in the bathroom are stupid
and unnecessary unless you lot are a lot more stupid than we are.

I had an Australian flatmate once who regularly referred to 'typical
Pommie over-reaction'.

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On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:50:36 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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On Friday, 27 January 2017 18:21:15 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 27/01/2017 05:37, F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our
electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.


It would seem to be significantly worse in fact. From :

http://www.erac.gov.au/images/Downlo...02009-2010.pdf


Quick Facts 09?10 financial year

"28 electrical deaths were recorded in Australia and New Zealand in
2009?
10. This is equivalent to 1.10 deaths per million population (pmp).
This
was a steep increase from 16 deaths in 2008 ? 09. However, the 1.10
deaths
pmp for the 2009 ? 10 is only slightly greater than the ten year
average
deaths pmp of 1.07"

Those weren't in BATHROOMS. They were in fact hardly ever in bathrooms.

You don't bathe often, then?

We do in fact bathe more often than you lot and very few of those
2* who are electrocuted every year get electrocuted in the bathroom.
So the British regulations on power points in the bathroom are stupid
and unnecessary unless you lot are a lot more stupid than we are.

I had an Australian flatmate once who regularly
referred to 'typical Pommie over-reaction'.

Yeah, he's right in that case, particularly as its so easy
to use an extension lead to a power point outside the
bathroom if you really want to use something like a
fan heater or hair drier in the bathroom.

OTOH you lot are rather more relaxed about what
other than electricians are legally allowed to do
with fixed wiring particularly in your own houses.

We don't bother with fused plug tops even
when used on ring mains which are perfectly
legal here and neither does anywhere else in
the world except a few ex colonys of Britain either.

And the new shared traffic areas arent at all common here.

Huge wrote
Robin wrote
John Rumm wrote

Should have added - we also had 28 deaths recorded
for 2010 - but in a significantly larger population.

Interesting, thanks. But I was shocked to see that 46% (13)
of the 28 deaths in ANZ were "workplace accidents". That's
a much higher proportion than here - 6 "work related".

Could it be that a much higher proportion of
the workforce in ANZ works on farms (or similar),

Which hardly ever have underground mains supplies and which
quite often have 11KV supplies with a transformer at the farm
and with much bigger portable machinery than in Britain too.
Even simple things like grain elevators are a real risk with
overhead mains supplys. Normally metal.
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/old-...s-76273167.jpg

which are much more dangerous than an office?

On 27/01/2017 05:47, charles wrote:
In article om,
F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.

Perhaps we have a colder climate than you have, so that people might/would
take electric fires into their bathrooms - and then drop them in the bath
water.


And perhaps a typical UK house is more 'compact' than most built in the
developed world, hence much smaller bathrooms and so much in reach of a
filled bath.

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On 27/01/2017 06:58, Rod Speed wrote:
F Murtz wrote


They keep the coal in the bath and the last thing they need is any
of that new fangled electricity setting it alight and wasting it.

With the rising price of petrol isn't this what is stored in the bath
these days?

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"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 27/01/2017 05:47, charles wrote:
In article om,
F Murtz wrote:
What is the obsession with power outlets in bathrooms in the UK,in
Australia almost every bathroom built in the last 20 years and many
before have a power point in the bathroom and I doubt our electrocution
in bathrooms is any worse than yours.

Perhaps we have a colder climate than you have, so that people
might/would
take electric fires into their bathrooms - and then drop them in the bath
water.


And perhaps a typical UK house is more 'compact' than most built in the
developed world, hence much smaller bathrooms and so much in reach of a
filled bath.

Unlikely that the bathrooms in the flats/units are very different in size.

alan_m wrote
Rod Speed wrote
F Murtz wrote

They keep the coal in the bath and the last thing they need is any
of that new fangled electricity setting it alight and wasting it.

With the rising price of petrol isn't this what is stored in the bath
these days?

True, and even more likely that the new fangled electricity will set it off.

And since you lot have always been stupid enough to tax it much
more heavily...

On 28/01/2017 11:43, Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-28, Robin wrote:
On 27/01/2017 11:23, John Rumm wrote:

[22 lines snipped]

Should have added - we also had 28 deaths recorded for 2010 - but in a
significantly larger population.


Interesting, thanks. But I was shocked to see that 46% (13) of the 28
deaths in ANZ were "workplace accidents". That's a much higher
proportion than here - 6 "work related".

Could it be that a much higher proportion of the workforce in ANZ works
on farms (or similar), which are much more dangerous than an office?

Or could it be that they were ****ed up?



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