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New Aerial socket
Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the
sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? |
New Aerial socket
On Monday, 12 December 2016 12:29:21 UTC, DerbyBorn wrote:
Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? Maybe you mean F plug? If so, no, a wall socket wants to be unpluggable. NT |
New Aerial socket
"DerbyBorn" wrote in message .222... Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? wouldn't make a bit of difference ..... |
New Aerial socket
On Monday, 12 December 2016 12:29:21 UTC, DerbyBorn wrote:
Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? won't do any harm, and it gives you the option to shove satellite through the same faceplate at a later date (when matching faceplates might have been discontinued) Owain |
New Aerial socket
DerbyBorn wrote:
Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? Probably won't make a detectable difference unless you change the coax to the aerial as well. At which point you might as well get a better aerial. -- Roger Hayter |
New Aerial socket
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DerbyBorn wrote: Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? No. And consider that a Belling Lee type just pulls out easily. A screw in connection could be a safety hazard. -- *Who is this General Failure chap anyway - and why is he reading my HD? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
New Aerial socket
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , DerbyBorn wrote: Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? No. And consider that a Belling Lee type just pulls out easily. A screw in connection could be a safety hazard. pulling out has always been a good idea ...... |
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New Aerial socket
"Lobster" wrote in message .75... On 12 Dec 2016, grunted: On Monday, 12 December 2016 12:29:21 UTC, DerbyBorn wrote: Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? Maybe you mean F plug? If so, no, a wall socket wants to be unpluggable. Why so? Why not just 'unscrewable'? If you have a cable TV connection, that will indeed use an F-plug/socket on the wall, and that won't be unpluggable, so I fail to see the difference. If it's a potential safety issue, then at least the OP's would have an 'unpluggable' plug at the TV end (unlike the case with a cable TV connection). you guys would argue white was black and get run over on the next zebra crossing ...... |
New Aerial socket
On Monday, 12 December 2016 14:20:11 UTC, Lobster wrote:
On 12 Dec 2016, tabbypurr: On Monday, 12 December 2016 12:29:21 UTC, DerbyBorn wrote: Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? Maybe you mean F plug? If so, no, a wall socket wants to be unpluggable. Why so? Why not just 'unscrewable'? If you have a cable TV connection, that will indeed use an F-plug/socket on the wall, and that won't be unpluggable, so I fail to see the difference. If it's a potential safety issue, then at least the OP's would have an 'unpluggable' plug at the TV end (unlike the case with a cable TV connection). You can do what you like. Personally I don't see any upside in replacing the connector with one that requires pliers then a minute of stiff turning just to unplug. Belling-Lees aren't ideal either, but they're a lot better suited to that location than F plugs. The signal quality wants addressing elsewhere, an F plug won't cure it. Cue a long pointless discussion about total trivia. NT |
New Aerial socket
You can do what you like. Personally I don't see any upside in replacing the connector with one that requires pliers then a minute of stiff turning just to unplug. Belling-Lees aren't ideal either, but they're a lot better suited to that location than F plugs. The signal quality wants addressing elsewhere, an F plug won't cure it. Cue a long pointless discussion about total trivia. NT Thanks |
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If the signal is not great, I'd have not thought it was the socket unless
its shorted out or open circuit. Have you tested it or looked inside? To be honest, I don't like screw in aerials myself, as its far too easy to damage something when you trip up over the flying lead. Often the actual flying lead is the weakest link in the chain. they often use rubbish cable for cheapness. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "DerbyBorn" wrote in message .222... Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? |
New Aerial socket
"DerbyBorn" wrote in message .222... Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? The problem isnt the socket, it’s the antenna on the other end of the cable. |
New Aerial socket
"grjw" wrote in
: "DerbyBorn" wrote in message .222... Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? The problem isnt the socket, it’s the antenna on the other end of the cable. My problem is the coax in the house. Tripping is not a hazard as the tv is on a worktop right up against the socket. Sometimes I need to wiggle the plug to remove the tarnish! |
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in
: It might also be a good idea to find out where the cable actually goes. if its merely a splitter off the main aerial and that has a good signal then more investigation is needed. It could be a separate aerial in not such a good place so again, this might be an issue with water in the coax etc. Lots of reasons for marginal signals really. Brian I agree Brian. Signal is not great due to the house being low down and having a double hipped roof, but I have a vey tall mast but still not really enough to see over the trees. I use Virgin Cable on Main TV so the aerial now only serves the kitchen - via a splitter with satellite type connectors. |
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On 12/12/2016 17:33, DerbyBorn wrote:
I agree Brian. Signal is not great due to the house being low down and having a double hipped roof, but I have a vey tall mast but still not really enough to see over the trees. I use Virgin Cable on Main TV so the aerial now only serves the kitchen - via a splitter with satellite type connectors. The splinter will reduce the signal strength by a few db so if the kitchen is the only place it serves you could dispense with the splinter. -- Mike Clarke |
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Mike Clarke wrote: On 12/12/2016 17:33, DerbyBorn wrote: I agree Brian. Signal is not great due to the house being low down and having a double hipped roof, but I have a vey tall mast but still not really enough to see over the trees. I use Virgin Cable on Main TV so the aerial now only serves the kitchen - via a splitter with satellite type connectors. The splinter will reduce the signal strength by a few db so if the kitchen is the only place it serves you could dispense with the splinter. If you need to split, use an amplified splitter. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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on 12/12/2016, Lobster supposed :
Why so? Why not just 'unscrewable'? If you have a cable TV connection, that will indeed use an F-plug/socket on the wall, and that won't be unpluggable, so I fail to see the difference. You can get little adaptors for not much, which turn a screw F-plug into a push fit F-plug. I use them on my caravan to more quickly connect the dish to the Sat input socket. |
New Aerial socket
On 12/12/2016 12:29, DerbyBorn wrote:
Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? It makes very little difference, but beware of the chrome wallplates that have a printed circuit board rather than a straight connection because they can be very lossy. Also beware of plates that include voltage isolation because they stop the sky eye working. If the signal is marginal, amplify it. Bill |
New Aerial socket
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DerbyBorn writes "Brian Gaff" wrote in : It might also be a good idea to find out where the cable actually goes. if its merely a splitter off the main aerial and that has a good signal then more investigation is needed. It could be a separate aerial in not such a good place so again, this might be an issue with water in the coax etc. Lots of reasons for marginal signals really. Brian I agree Brian. Signal is not great due to the house being low down and having a double hipped roof, but I have a vey tall mast but still not really enough to see over the trees. I use Virgin Cable on Main TV so the aerial now only serves the kitchen - via a splitter with satellite type connectors. Splitter as opposed to booster? -- bert |
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Bill Wright wrote in
: On 12/12/2016 12:29, DerbyBorn wrote: Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? It makes very little difference, but beware of the chrome wallplates that have a printed circuit board rather than a straight connection because they can be very lossy. Also beware of plates that include voltage isolation because they stop the sky eye working. If the signal is marginal, amplify it. Bill Thanks Bill. Chrome plate arrives today - unseen. Hope it will be okay. Usually Freeeview is okay - except for a break up on some channels occassionally. I certainly don't want it to be any worse. |
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Mike Clarke wrote in
o.uk: On 12/12/2016 17:33, DerbyBorn wrote: I agree Brian. Signal is not great due to the house being low down and having a double hipped roof, but I have a vey tall mast but still not really enough to see over the trees. I use Virgin Cable on Main TV so the aerial now only serves the kitchen - via a splitter with satellite type connectors. The splinter will reduce the signal strength by a few db so if the kitchen is the only place it serves you could dispense with the splinter. It also serves the main TV - but that is usually viewing Cable TV. Would not want to dispense with the Freeview opportunity in case of loss of Cable. |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:29:18 +0000, DerbyBorn wrote:
Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? I've used two F Type connectors on a wall socket; means that I can use them for TV or satellite depending on where I connect the other end. For those claiming that everything should be pull out, I have a TV with built in satellite tuner, a Virgin Tivo, and two satellite STBs all of which use the screw in F connector. I see no reason to insert extra connections just to be able to pull them out. If this is such an issue why do all satellite installations come with screw in connectors? I do have a very misty recollection of someone (could be a certain Bill Wright) saying that the F connectors gave a slightly better connection but the standard push in ones were used on TVs because they were cheaper. This would probably be about 15 years ago, I think. Discussing signal boosters/splitters. Unless the aerial is going to run across a high traffic walkway then there is very little trip hazard. For our lounge TV the aerial runs up inside the chimney and then out behind the TV which is mounted on a sodding great wall bracket. Anyone who trips over that cable is trying too damned hard. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Cue a long pointless discussion about total trivia. It should be an ampersand between "Belling" and "Lee", not a hyphen. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 08:34:02 GMT, DerbyBorn
wrote: Bill Wright wrote in : On 12/12/2016 12:29, DerbyBorn wrote: Just getting around to changing plastic to brushed chrome for all the sockets and switches in kitchen. There is a TV Aerial outlet for a small TV. The signal is not great - Would I be better to use a satellite type of socket rather than traditional Co- ax? It makes very little difference, but beware of the chrome wallplates that have a printed circuit board rather than a straight connection because they can be very lossy. Also beware of plates that include voltage isolation because they stop the sky eye working. If the signal is marginal, amplify it. Bill Thanks Bill. Chrome plate arrives today - unseen. Hope it will be okay. Usually Freeeview is okay - except for a break up on some channels occassionally. I certainly don't want it to be any worse. Is the splitter accessible? If you were to bypass it by connecting the kitchen cable direct to the aerial with an F-type barrel connector, you would gain at least 3.5dB at the kitchen TV and I would expect all your signal issues to disappear. You can always reinstate the splitter if VM has problems. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
New Aerial socket
On 13/12/2016 08:34, DerbyBorn wrote:
Thanks Bill. Chrome plate arrives today - unseen. Hope it will be okay. Usually Freeeview is okay - except for a break up on some channels occassionally. I certainly don't want it to be any worse. You really shouldn't be putting up with it as it is now. Bill |
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On 14/12/16 01:35, Graham. wrote:
Cue a long pointless discussion about total trivia. It should be an ampersand between "Belling" and "Lee", not a hyphen. Only if you want to be alone in a cast of billions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling-Lee_connector |
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Bill Wright wrote in news:o2qbjs$ed6$1
@gioia.aioe.org: On 13/12/2016 08:34, DerbyBorn wrote: Thanks Bill. Chrome plate arrives today - unseen. Hope it will be okay. Usually Freeeview is okay - except for a break up on some channels occassionally. I certainly don't want it to be any worse. You really shouldn't be putting up with it as it is now. Bill My location is a bit marginal for Waltham (DE23 1DB) |
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