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Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter,
please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. -- *I wish the buck stopped here. I could use a few. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 10/12/2016 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. G-cramped to a gate post or something. Then axial saw cuts , length dependent on diameter reduction required. Cuts in both cross-axes, pairs of cuts, chisselling out in-between , spanish windlass to compress to insert in the stand |
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On 10/12/2016 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Can you just whittle it with a stanley knife? Ditto multi tool? AG? Hold it in your B&D workmate? |
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On 10/12/2016 11:15, GB wrote:
On 10/12/2016 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Can you just whittle it with a stanley knife? Ditto multi tool? AG? Hold it in your B&D workmate? Electric plane? |
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On 10/12/16 13:08, N_Cook wrote:
On 10/12/2016 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. G-cramped to a gate post or something. Then axial saw cuts , length dependent on diameter reduction required. Cuts in both cross-axes, pairs of cuts, chisselling out in-between , spanish windlass to compress to insert in the stand I used a power plane makes a mess, but works |
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On 10/12/2016 11:29, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 10:50:18 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Hand axe ? Ouch? |
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On 10-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. I would have thought that the trunk being too large to fit into the stand might suggest that the tree is larger than the stand is designed to support safely. -- -- Colin Bignell |
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"Nightjar" wrote in message
... On 10-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. I would have thought that the trunk being too large to fit into the stand might suggest that the tree is larger than the stand is designed to support safely. And the person acquiring the tree is just trying to impress. FFS, would you post to a newsgroup if your stupidity put you in his position? |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. I was presented with a tree and a fairly ropey old hand saw[1] yesterday and proceeded to lop the end off and then various lumps and branches to make it fit into a stand without any great effort on a lounge floor. The tree was still bagged which made it easier to handle, but the wood was so soft that it presented no great problems. [1] A random second hand one I've collected up and stashed away for random yard work. If I'd thought of it sooner I'd have said bring the bow-saw that was under it. -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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On 12/10/2016 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Whilst not ideal on damp timber, the good old fashioned angle grinder (with a coarse sanding disk of course) removes material pretty quickly and safely. |
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On 10/12/16 14:19, Nightjar wrote:
On 10-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. I would have thought that the trunk being too large to fit into the stand might suggest that the tree is larger than the stand is designed to support safely. not really. the stands work fine with bigger trees |
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Nightjar wrote: On 10-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. I would have thought that the trunk being too large to fit into the stand might suggest that the tree is larger than the stand is designed to support safely. It's the same height as I normally get. It just seems to bulge out at the bottom of the trunk more than I've ever seen. Goes to almost twice the diameter in a short distance. But don't want to reduce the height. Did a tree run yesterday and collected three all the same size. I've a feeling this one isn't the one I selected myself ;-) -- *Just remember...if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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writes In article , Nightjar wrote: On 10-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. I would have thought that the trunk being too large to fit into the stand might suggest that the tree is larger than the stand is designed to support safely. It's the same height as I normally get. It just seems to bulge out at the bottom of the trunk more than I've ever seen. Goes to almost twice the diameter in a short distance. But don't want to reduce the height. Did a tree run yesterday and collected three all the same size. I've a feeling this one isn't the one I selected myself ;-) I think the *low needle drop* type are grafted to other stock. You may be struggling with that. A draw knife works well if you can stop the trunk moving towards you. -- Tim Lamb |
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On 10/12/2016 13:03, newshound wrote:
On 12/10/2016 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Whilst not ideal on damp timber, the good old fashioned angle grinder (with a coarse sanding disk of course) removes material pretty quickly and safely. When I had that problem last year, I cut the base as square as feasible and stood it on a circle of 18mm ply, screwed through from the bottom with a few big screws, intending to use wedges to adjust for any deviation from vertical (which proved unnecessary). A couple of arris rail brackets were also added for good measure. The ply fitted into a bucket, which was filled with MOT to give it some ballast (no doubt sand etc would do fine), then the whole lot was hidden with Xmas paper etc. It held fine and, importantly, nobody (ie SWMBO) saw it as an unsightly bodge..... |
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Tim Lamb wrote: In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes In article , Nightjar wrote: On 10-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. I would have thought that the trunk being too large to fit into the stand might suggest that the tree is larger than the stand is designed to support safely. It's the same height as I normally get. It just seems to bulge out at the bottom of the trunk more than I've ever seen. Goes to almost twice the diameter in a short distance. But don't want to reduce the height. Did a tree run yesterday and collected three all the same size. I've a feeling this one isn't the one I selected myself ;-) I think the *low needle drop* type are grafted to other stock. You may be struggling with that. Ah. A draw knife works well if you can stop the trunk moving towards you. If it were any normal bit of wood I'd manage. ;-) Just not used to working with the raw stuff. Don't have a draw knife. -- *Why are a wise man and a wise guy opposites? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 10/12/2016 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. How much are we talking about? Do your wood working tools include a power planer? |
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On 10/12/16 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. ..- -. --. .-.. . / --. .-. .. -. -.. . .-. -- Adrian C |
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On Saturday, 10 December 2016 10:50:28 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Electric plane. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Makes more sense to diy a better stand so it will work for future trees with no effort. -- *I wish the buck stopped here. I could use a few. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"grjw" wrote in message ...
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Makes more sense to diy a better stand so it will work for future trees with no effort. Makes even more sense to stick with your original rod speed nym. |
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On 10/12/2016 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Have you got a draw knife? If not a plane set on an aggressive cut. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Somebody not a million miles from here, according to the news I heard the
other day has utilised his green wheelie bin to support his outdoor Christmas tree, though he has apparently had to use three guy ropes to stop it wandering off. I'm assuming you are though, in fact wanting to use this tree indoors. One of the problems with this idea is that inside under the outer bark you often find the wood is quite soft and not very strong, so whether you want to go ahead is up to you. I once did this many years ago simply by sawing a known depth cut all the way around, then sawing down to it from the end so it looked a bit like a50p coin effect, then used a chisel to round the corners to fit the base. as I say it was still a bit fragile, as the tree was rather top heavy and kind of bled where it had no bark. These days I'm a paid up member of the Bah Humbug society when it comes to Christmas decor! Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. -- *I wish the buck stopped here. I could use a few. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Saturday, 10 December 2016 10:50:28 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Alternative approach: ditch the stand and jigsaw an appropriately sized hole in the lounge floor. Insert tree. Hammer in wedges to hold tree. The hole will come in handy for running cables later. Owain |
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John Rumm wrote: On 10/12/2016 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Have you got a draw knife? If not a plane set on an aggressive cut. Ended up using a sharp chisel and mallet, and the multi-tool to saw through knots. Easy enough. I'm sure anyone used to working with 'green' wood wouldn't have had a problem. I'm not. Don't even have any trees in this small garden. -- *I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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newshound Wrote in message:
On 12/10/2016 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Whilst not ideal on damp timber, the good old fashioned angle grinder (with a coarse sanding disk of course) removes material pretty quickly and safely. Angle grinder !=safety -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 10/12/2016 11:15, GB wrote:
On 10/12/2016 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. Can you just whittle it with a stanley knife? Ditto multi tool? AG? Hold it in your B&D workmate? Until 12th night ?. |
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 11:20:37 -0000, Bod wrote:
On 10/12/2016 11:15, GB wrote: On 10/12/2016 10:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools.. Can you just whittle it with a stanley knife? Ditto multi tool? AG? Hold it in your B&D workmate? Electric plane? http://www.solarimpulse.com/adventure -- My daughter asked me for a pet spider for her birthday, so I went to our local pet shop and they were £70! Blow this, I thought, I can get one cheaper off the web. |
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On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 10:50:28 AM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. 1. Purchase a small folding pruning saw. 2. Grip wet resiny freezing cold tree trunk in one bare hand. 3. Hold pruning saw in other and hack away at trunk. 4. Switch hands at regular intervals to ensure both get equally numb, wet and coated in resin. 5. Get wife to drive you to A&E. To be fair, the wound inflicted by a pruning saw looks worse than it is. |
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On Monday, 12 December 2016 11:27:33 UTC, Halmyre wrote:
On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 10:50:28 AM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. 1. Purchase a small folding pruning saw. 2. Grip wet resiny freezing cold tree trunk in one bare hand. He really should put it between his legs and setup a camera to record the event. 3. Hold pruning saw in other and hack away at trunk. 4. Switch hands at regular intervals to ensure both get equally numb, wet and coated in resin. 5. Get wife to drive you to A&E. To be fair, the wound inflicted by a pruning saw looks worse than it is. |
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whisky-dave wrote: On Monday, 12 December 2016 11:27:33 UTC, Halmyre wrote: On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 10:50:28 AM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. 1. Purchase a small folding pruning saw. 2. Grip wet resiny freezing cold tree trunk in one bare hand. He really should put it between his legs and setup a camera to record the event. Really Dave. Surely as a lab technician you know one of the primary rule of H&S - always cut in the direction away from your body? Or does that explain your brain damage? -- *Hang in there, retirement is only thirty years away! * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Monday, 12 December 2016 13:56:17 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , whisky-dave wrote: On Monday, 12 December 2016 11:27:33 UTC, Halmyre wrote: On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 10:50:28 AM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. 1. Purchase a small folding pruning saw. 2. Grip wet resiny freezing cold tree trunk in one bare hand. He really should put it between his legs and setup a camera to record the event. Really Dave. Surely as a lab technician you know one of the primary rule of H&S - always cut in the direction away from your body? and what would stop you from doing that exactly in the above. ? And you should know as the ****** you are that you can pull on your cock away from you and then pull towards you. Or does that explain your brain damage? your brain damage is in your penis thought as much. |
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On 10/12/2016 12:35, Richard wrote:
"Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 10-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. I would have thought that the trunk being too large to fit into the stand might suggest that the tree is larger than the stand is designed to support safely. And the person acquiring the tree is just trying to impress. FFS, would you post to a newsgroup if your stupidity put you in his position? I'll see if I can put him in touch with that receptionist that gave me a hand job in the pub car park on last years Christmas works do. The clumsy bitch removed a fair bit of bark from my trunk. -- Adam |
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writes On 10/12/2016 12:35, Richard wrote: "Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 10-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Xmas tree trunk is too big to fit my stand. Ways of reducing the diameter, please. Tree is too big to clamp in my vice so will have to be done outside freehand, as it were. Not really used to working with raw timber, and don't possess an axe. Just the usual workshop wood working tools. I would have thought that the trunk being too large to fit into the stand might suggest that the tree is larger than the stand is designed to support safely. And the person acquiring the tree is just trying to impress. FFS, would you post to a newsgroup if your stupidity put you in his position? I'll see if I can put him in touch with that receptionist that gave me a hand job in the pub car park on last years Christmas works do. The clumsy bitch removed a fair bit of bark from my trunk. Long finger nails? -- bert |
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bert wrote:
ARW writes The clumsy bitch removed a fair bit of bark from my trunk. Long finger nails? Deliberately making her mark ... |
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