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Storage heater insulation panels
Got a second hand storage heater from a friend
Had to remove the firebricks to transport it, as it weighs a bloody ton. Anyway, there are insulation panels front and back that go between the fire bricks and the metal case. Trouble is, the material has split and the cork(?) insulation (better not be asbestos) has spilled out, so need to replace. Having difficulty tracking down replacements and if I've read the description on the Dimplex website correctly, replacement insulation panels seem extremely expensive (unless I read the wrong part). So, any idea how to improvise a suitable replacement sheet of insulation? Needs to be fairly thin (about 1/4") Thanks in advance -- Best Wishes Simon Taylor |
Storage heater insulation panels
On 05/12/16 17:26, Simon T wrote:
Got a second hand storage heater from a friend Had to remove the firebricks to transport it, as it weighs a bloody ton. Anyway, there are insulation panels front and back that go between the fire bricks and the metal case. Trouble is, the material has split and the cork(?) insulation (better not be asbestos) has spilled out, so need to replace. Having difficulty tracking down replacements and if I've read the description on the Dimplex website correctly, replacement insulation panels seem extremely expensive (unless I read the wrong part). So, any idea how to improvise a suitable replacement sheet of insulation? Needs to be fairly thin (about 1/4") Thanks in advance https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/...sulation-board ??? -- Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed. |
Storage heater insulation panels
On Monday, 5 December 2016 17:26:21 UTC, Simon T wrote:
Got a second hand storage heater from a friend Had to remove the firebricks to transport it, as it weighs a bloody ton. Anyway, there are insulation panels front and back that go between the fire bricks and the metal case. Trouble is, the material has split and the cork(?) insulation (better not be asbestos) has spilled out, so need to replace. Having difficulty tracking down replacements and if I've read the description on the Dimplex website correctly, replacement insulation panels seem extremely expensive (unless I read the wrong part). So, any idea how to improvise a suitable replacement sheet of insulation? Needs to be fairly thin (about 1/4") Thanks in advance A picture would probably help identify it. NT |
Storage heater insulation panels
Just a thought, would insulation foil do it, like the stuff they put behind
radiators? It is liable to get rather warm in there though, doesn't this stuff have plastic bubbles on the inside? Don't want melted plastic oozing out of the bottom, or worse, black smoke coming out of the top. -- Best Wishes Simon Taylor |
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tabbypurr wrote in message...
A picture would probably help identify it. The radiator, or the insulation panel? Providing a pic of the former would be rather tricky as it's in bits. -- Best Wishes Simon Taylor |
Storage heater insulation panels
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:54:51 UTC, Simon T wrote:
Just a thought, would insulation foil do it, like the stuff they put behind radiators? It is liable to get rather warm in there though, doesn't this stuff have plastic bubbles on the inside? Don't want melted plastic oozing out of the bottom, or worse, black smoke coming out of the top. Nowhere near enough insulation, and the core gets way to hot for such stuff. NT |
Storage heater insulation panels
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:56:21 UTC, Simon T wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message... A picture would probably help identify it. The radiator, or the insulation panel? Providing a pic of the former would be rather tricky as it's in bits. the insulation of course :) NT |
Storage heater insulation panels
On Monday, 5 December 2016 17:26:21 UTC, Simon T wrote:
Got a second hand storage heater from a friend Had to remove the firebricks to transport it, as it weighs a bloody ton. Anyway, there are insulation panels front and back that go between the fire bricks and the metal case. Trouble is, the material has split and the cork(?) insulation (better not be asbestos) has spilled out, so need to replace. Having difficulty tracking down replacements and if I've read the description on the Dimplex website correctly, replacement insulation panels seem extremely expensive (unless I read the wrong part). So, any idea how to improvise a suitable replacement sheet of insulation? Needs to be fairly thin (about 1/4") Thanks in advance -- Best Wishes Simon Taylor Just Google "heat resistant insulation board." Lots of hits. |
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Storage heater insulation panels
On 05/12/2016 17:26, Simon T wrote:
[...] Having difficulty tracking down replacements and if I've read the description on the Dimplex website correctly, replacement insulation panels seem extremely expensive (unless I read the wrong part). The material is a ceramic fibre board and yes, it is quite expensive. If you were looking at a retail price list though, the price would be further inflated. Enquire through a an electrical wholesaler, or an online spares supplier such as TD spares, for better pricing. So, any idea how to improvise a suitable replacement sheet of insulation? Needs to be fairly thin (about 1/4") I'd advise against any improvisation here on fire safety grounds; the core temperature of a fully charged storage heater is extremely hot - hundreds of deg. C. Do you want to take the risk? -- Andy |
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"Andy Wade" wrote in message ...
I'd advise against any improvisation here on fire safety grounds; the core temperature of a fully charged storage heater is extremely hot - hundreds of deg. C. Do you want to take the risk? Was thinking of using a thin layer of rockwool insulation. -- Best Wishes Simon Taylor |
Storage heater insulation panels
On 09/12/2016 18:24, Simon T wrote:
Was thinking of using a thin layer of rockwool insulation. I doubt that will work. Try he http://www.storageheater.co.uk/ -- Andy |
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replying to Simon T, Teen T wrote:
Hi Simon, cane across your post by chance... I hv same issue ... can I ask wht you ended up doing with your heater? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...s-1175569-.htm |
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I remember that post. I'd imagine the company don't want you to buy them
hoping to sell you a new heater! The sides of my heater still get quite hot though so I'm not convinced the stuff they use is very good in any case. Maybe the ideal substance is what they used to make Space shuttle tiles out of! That was a kind of hard surfaced ceramic high temp foam. Not mechanically very strong but one heck of an insulator from heat. What are Fire blankets made from? Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Teen T" m wrote in message ... replying to Simon T, Teen T wrote: Hi Simon, cane across your post by chance... I hv same issue ... can I ask wht you ended up doing with your heater? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...s-1175569-.htm |
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replying to The Natural Philosopher, Maggie61 wrote:
Are these boards really suitable , I'm having same problem as simon after googling about the insulation boards and not getting anywhere. ,I came across ,,insulation boards and grenfell and thought iv really got to check these Victorian plumbing boards before I order ,to be on the safe side. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...s-1175569-.htm |
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On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 13:14:04 UTC+1, Maggie61 wrote:
replying to The Natural Philosopher, Maggie61 wrote: Are these boards really suitable for what? , I'm having same problem as simon after what problem is that? googling about the insulation boards and not getting anywhere. ,I came across ,,insulation boards and grenfell and thought iv really got to check these Victorian plumbing boards before I order ,to be on the safe side. what boards? Gis a clue! NT |
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Did you miss the thread start. As I recall its to do with insides of storage
heaters, though it does seem to have wandered off a bit. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 13:14:04 UTC+1, Maggie61 wrote: replying to The Natural Philosopher, Maggie61 wrote: Are these boards really suitable for what? , I'm having same problem as simon after what problem is that? googling about the insulation boards and not getting anywhere. ,I came across ,,insulation boards and grenfell and thought iv really got to check these Victorian plumbing boards before I order ,to be on the safe side. what boards? Gis a clue! NT |
Storage heater insulation panels
On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:23:54 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 13:14:04 UTC+1, Maggie61 wrote: replying to The Natural Philosopher, Maggie61 wrote: Are these boards really suitable for what? , I'm having same problem as simon after what problem is that? googling about the insulation boards and not getting anywhere. ,I came across ,,insulation boards and grenfell and thought iv really got to check these Victorian plumbing boards before I order ,to be on the safe side. what boards? Gis a clue! NT Did you miss the thread start. As I recall its to do with insides of storage heaters, though it does seem to have wandered off a bit. Brian the thread started back in 2016. Few will see that. What hoh displays is not what you get in the newsgroup. NT |
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replying to Brian Gaff, Mel wrote:
Found this when having similar issues, thought comments might be helpful to anyone else viewing. Initially advised insulation panel obsolete so went around another of firms who deal with insulation products until one came up with Insulfrax Board 110 LD. To cut a long story short DO NOT use this in storage heaters due to fumes given off, made me ill. Eventually received information that insulation is available if hunt around and pay £75 plus quid for it. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...s-1175569-.htm |
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On 06/07/2018 19:14, Teen T wrote:
replying to Simon T, Teen T wrote: Hi Simon, cane across your post by chance... I hv same issue ... can I ask wht you ended up doing with your heater? For some reason this thread just bumped back up in my news feed. Bit late now, but I ended up chucking the heater out. I was planning to use it to heat my shed during the winter overnight on Economy 7, but I no longer have Economy 7 as the cheap overnight rate doesn't make up for the extra cost you pay during the day. So as I couldn't get replacement insulation panels anyway, out it went. -- Best Wishes Simon T --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Thanks for the advice. I found that the ceramic fibre board is expensive to order since it is fragile and typically has to be delivered by pallet or by courier. I found it cheaper to order some ceramic fibre blanket from Vitcas (https://shop.vitcas.com/ceramic-fibr...tion-mtr.html). The blanket can be fixed to the steel panel/cover with a ceramic fibre adhesive (https://shop.vitcas.com/ceramic-fibr...ve-310ml.html). Its also possible to protect the blanket using a heat-resistant cloth (https://shop.vitcas.com/silica84-ver...te-cloth.html). These products are rated to temperatures above 1000 degrees C, which I've read is far higher than the temperatures likely to be encountered in a storage heater. For instance, my Dimplex heater elements can only reach 650 degrees C. Obviously, heater temperatures should be far lower than this under normal operation.
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"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" wrote:
I've often wondered why, given the ability of a vacuum flask to keep stuff hot all day, why something similar is not used on storage heater insulation. Even when you close the vents they are cold by the end of a day. So electronic vents and a thermos around the bricks is what we need. Probably rather difficult to make a 'jacket' that can be evacuated without collapsing. A vacuum flask is (approximately) cylindrical so the 'jacket' can support the vacuum (I'd guess the inner part is in tension and the outer in compression without too many bending forces) -- Chris Green · |
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