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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marr programme
Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview,
because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. Bill |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 13/11/2016 20:01, Bill Wright wrote:
Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. Bill what anti-Semitism ??? |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marr programme
critcher wrote:
On 13/11/2016 20:01, Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. Bill what anti-Semitism ??? You probably missed it. It's where female Jewish MPs get death threats, hints that Hitler got it right etc. Easy to dismiss, unless of course you are the target. Alan -- Mageia 5 for x86_64, Kernel:4.4.16-desktop-1.mga5 KDE version 4.14.5 on an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition. |
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critcher wrote: On 13/11/2016 20:01, Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. what anti-Semitism ??? You probably missed it. It's where female Jewish MPs get death threats, hints that Hitler got it right etc. Or say they did. It counts as anti-semitism even if they didn't get death threats but say they did. That's Rule 1. Rule 2 says anybody who doesn't accept Rule 1 is antisemitic. Rule 3 says anybody who doesn't accept either Rule 2 or Rule 1 is antisemitic. Rule n says ... Easy to dismiss, unless of course you are the target. Of course. Followup restored to prevent propaganda going unchallenged. -- Jack |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 13/11/2016 20:18, critcher wrote:
what anti-Semitism ??? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=labour+party+anti-semitism (about a quarter of a million hits, BTW) |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 13/11/2016 21:32, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 13/11/2016 20:18, critcher wrote: what anti-Semitism ??? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=labour+party+anti-semitism (about a quarter of a million hits, BTW) I want to know what you think is anti-Semitism, not what the papers say. |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/16 19:58, critcher wrote:
On 13/11/2016 21:32, Vir Campestris wrote: On 13/11/2016 20:18, critcher wrote: what anti-Semitism ??? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=labour+party+anti-semitism (about a quarter of a million hits, BTW) I want to know what you think is anti-Semitism, not what the papers say. Well why didn't you ask that question, then? -- Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns. |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/2016 20:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/11/16 19:58, critcher wrote: On 13/11/2016 21:32, Vir Campestris wrote: On 13/11/2016 20:18, critcher wrote: what anti-Semitism ??? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=labour+party+anti-semitism (about a quarter of a million hits, BTW) I want to know what you think is anti-Semitism, not what the papers say. Well why didn't you ask that question, then? cos i'm not as bright as you |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 13/11/16 20:18, critcher wrote:
On 13/11/2016 20:01, Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. Bill what anti-Semitism ??? Sheesh... -- Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first centurys developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age. Richard Lindzen |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/2016 00:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
what anti-Semitism ??? Sheesh... did you mean sheep ? |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/16 19:59, critcher wrote:
On 14/11/2016 00:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote: what anti-Semitism ??? Sheesh... did you mean sheep ? No. -- Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns. |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marr programme
In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote:
Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. -- Chris Green · |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote:
In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. -- No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post. |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/2016 00:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. Can you cite any reference to this? They call themselves "Social Conservatives" but that is not a brand of socialism. The wikipedia article on National Front (France) and most references say the party occupies the centre-right. Either way no one can confuse the NF and a truly socialist party, unless of course you would accuse the Tory party of being socialist? |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marr programme
"Fredxxx" wrote in message news On 14/11/2016 00:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. Can you cite any reference to this? They call themselves "Social Conservatives" but that is not a brand of socialism. The wikipedia article on National Front (France) and most references say the party occupies the centre-right. Either way no one can confuse the NF and a truly socialist party, unless of course you would accuse the Tory party of being socialist? A better example is the Nazis, they really were socialist with the state getting involved in even car manufacturing and the state providing free holidays for workers etc. |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/16 01:33, Fredxxx wrote:
On 14/11/2016 00:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. Can you cite any reference to this? They call themselves "Social Conservatives" but that is not a brand of socialism. The wikipedia article on National Front (France) and most references say the party occupies the centre-right. Either way no one can confuse the NF and a truly socialist party, unless of course you would accuse the Tory party of being socialist? France has always been central state dirigiste. Marine recognises this. The French like to be given orders by their government, so they can protest against them. The difference between Marine and the EU, is that she is French, and the orders will exclude people she thinks are 'not French' So she is a national socialist, not an international socialist. "During the 1980s, Jean-Marie Le Pen complained about the rising number of "social parasites", and called for deregulation, tax cuts, and the phasing-out of the welfare state. As the party gained growing support from the economically vulnerable, *it converted towards politics of social welfare and economic protectionism*. This was part of its shift away from its former claim of being the "social, popular and national right" to its claim of being "neither right nor left French!" Increasingly, the party's program became an amalgam of free market and welfarist policies, which some political commentators have claimed are left-wing economic policies. Under her leadership, Marine Le Pen has been more clear in her support for protectionism, while she has criticised globalism and capitalism for certain industries. She has been characterised as a proponent of *letting the government take care of health, education, transportation, banking and energy.* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France) BY socialist I don't mean that she or the party espouses Marxism, more that she recognises the French attachment to state run services. -- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. So was Mr Hitler. -- Ian |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/16 08:08, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. So was Mr Hitler. Exactly. In fact a lot of the so called Fascist Right were in fact socialists. Just National Socialists as opposed to the International Socialists - the Marxists and Bolsheviks. The defining characteristic being the common belief that a centralised state bureaucracy is the right way to tackle social and economic problems. Contrast the more libertarian approach of the centre right like UKIP which recognises the deep limitations of government in tackling many problems, and prefers a lightweight laissez faire approach, less government and use of a free market (within limits) to find its own level and take economic development forward, and a less interfering government that encourages the people themselves to sort out local social problems, not impose top down solutions from centralised authority. -- "I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently. This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and all women" |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/11/16 08:08, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. So was Mr Hitler. Exactly. In fact a lot of the so called Fascist Right were in fact socialists. Just National Socialists as opposed to the International Socialists - the Marxists and Bolsheviks. Socialist by name only to my mind. Central control of things doesn't make socialism. -- Chris Green · |
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Ian Jackson wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. So was Mr Hitler. Odd Mr Turnip didn't call her a 'lefty****' then. Perhaps because of his respect for women. -- *I'm not as think as you drunk I am. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/16 12:14, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 00:17:07 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. So was Uncle Adolph, Head of National Socialist Party Prezactly. Socialism is a convenient excuse everyone uses for more power and more state control. -- All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is fully understood. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/11/16 12:14, Martin wrote: On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 00:17:07 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 13/11/16 22:08, Chris Green wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. One's view of the above depends on how extremely right you think le Pen is as opposed to how extremely left you think Corbyn is. Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. Le Pen is a socialist. So was Uncle Adolph, Head of National Socialist Party Prezactly. Socialism is a convenient excuse everyone uses for more power and more state control. 'Socialist' is a word hung on to lots of names of countries and governments which are not in the remotest way socialist. -- Chris Green · |
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On 14/11/16 12:42, Chris Green wrote:
'Socialist' is a word hung on to lots of names of countries and governments which are not in the remotest way socialist. Its a funny thing, but no one I have ever talked to who declares they are a 'socialist' has ever provided a coherent definition of what it actually means. Most waffle on about 'social justice' as if the phrase had any real meaning. When questioned they all seem to agree its about 'righting social wrongs' (whatever that means) with government as the agency to do it. And that is what populist 'national (or international) socialists' claim too. Take all that stuff from those rich nasty Jews and give it to the Good Aryan Volk...Take all the money from those bloated Jewish capitalist banksters and give it to the good multicultural UK citizens..... At least Le Pen says 'take France back from the EU and the Algerians and give it back to the French' Which is a softer message than Hitler or Corbyn. -- To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote. |
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Chris Green wrote: Socialism is a convenient excuse everyone uses for more power and more state control. 'Socialist' is a word hung on to lots of names of countries and governments which are not in the remotest way socialist. Very odd that all those 'philosophers' and so on here haven't noticed that. -- *(over a sketch of the titanic) "The boat sank - get over it Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , Huge
writes On 2016-11-14, Chris Green wrote: 'Socialist' is a word hung on to lots of names of countries and governments which are not in the remotest way socialist. IME, "socialism" is what people are pointing at when they say "this is socialism". I'm a socialist. However, the problem with socialism (and communism) is that most of the socialist and communist governments have rarely practised socialism and communism. -- Ian |
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Huge wrote:
'Socialist' is a word hung on to lots of names of countries and governments which are not in the remotest way socialist. IME, "socialism" is what people are pointing at when they say "this is socialism". So if I point at you and say 'fascist' it makes you one? -- Chris Green · |
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On 13/11/2016 22:08, Chris Green wrote:
Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. It isn't really quantifiable is it? Bill |
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In uk.d-i-y Bill Wright wrote:
On 13/11/2016 22:08, Chris Green wrote: Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. It isn't really quantifiable is it? Not easily no, but your original posting depends on it as much as my reply surely?? -- Chris Green · |
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On 14/11/2016 09:19, Chris Green wrote:
In uk.d-i-y Bill Wright wrote: On 13/11/2016 22:08, Chris Green wrote: Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. It isn't really quantifiable is it? Not easily no, but your original posting depends on it as much as my reply surely?? Yes it does, so you can probably guess what I think. One way of assessing how far to the left or right a politician is might be to imagine how much good or bad they could do if they came to power. On that basis I'd say Mr Corbyn is an extremist because Marxism would destroy the economy and Stalinism would destroy free speech. I can't imagine that Mme le Pen could do that much damage. Bill |
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On 14/11/16 12:05, Bill Wright wrote:
On 14/11/2016 09:19, Chris Green wrote: In uk.d-i-y Bill Wright wrote: On 13/11/2016 22:08, Chris Green wrote: Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. It isn't really quantifiable is it? Not easily no, but your original posting depends on it as much as my reply surely?? Yes it does, so you can probably guess what I think. One way of assessing how far to the left or right a politician is might be to imagine how much good or bad they could do if they came to power. On that basis I'd say Mr Corbyn is an extremist because Marxism would destroy the economy and Stalinism would destroy free speech. I can't imagine that Mme le Pen could do that much damage. She would damage the Left immeasurably, as Trump will in the USA. Leftism is a massive network of crony nepotism, all sharing a 'common purpose' which is to enslave the citizens and bleed the nations dry to fund their virtue signalling lifestyles. It is Leftism that is being rejected all over Europe and the USA. AS the scales drop from the eyes of all except the super deluded... Party versus Proletariat. And the plebs if not winning, have certainly socked it to the Party. Bill -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler |
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In uk.d-i-y Bill Wright wrote:
On 14/11/2016 09:19, Chris Green wrote: In uk.d-i-y Bill Wright wrote: On 13/11/2016 22:08, Chris Green wrote: Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. It isn't really quantifiable is it? Not easily no, but your original posting depends on it as much as my reply surely?? Yes it does, so you can probably guess what I think. One way of assessing how far to the left or right a politician is might be to imagine how much good or bad they could do if they came to power. On that basis I'd say Mr Corbyn is an extremist because Marxism would destroy the economy and Stalinism would destroy free speech. I can't imagine that Mme le Pen could do that much damage. :-) ... and I don't think Corbyn is a Stalinist, whether he's Marxist or not I don't really know. -- Chris Green · |
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Bill Wright wrote: Yes it does, so you can probably guess what I think. One way of assessing how far to the left or right a politician is might be to imagine how much good or bad they could do if they came to power. On that basis I'd say Mr Corbyn is an extremist because Marxism would destroy the economy Right. Making St Nige rather left of Marx? -- *Being healthy is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 14/11/2016 12:05, Bill Wright wrote:
On 14/11/2016 09:19, Chris Green wrote: In uk.d-i-y Bill Wright wrote: On 13/11/2016 22:08, Chris Green wrote: Personally I think le Pen is further right than Corbyn is left but I suspect you might disagree. It isn't really quantifiable is it? Not easily no, but your original posting depends on it as much as my reply surely?? Yes it does, so you can probably guess what I think. One way of assessing how far to the left or right a politician is might be to imagine how much good or bad they could do if they came to power. On that basis I'd say Mr Corbyn is an extremist because Marxism would destroy the economy and Stalinism would destroy free speech. I can't imagine that Mme le Pen could do that much damage. Bill how many times has capitalism destroyed the economy ? |
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I'd not call him left. He is what all Labour was before the rich socialists
decided to hijack the party. The problem is that the rest of his party are rich socialists. There seems to be an epidemic of trying to put various genies back into bottles around at the moment. the federal EU the multiculturalism and traditional socialism trying to put the new lot back. Luckily I never saw either as the bbc has no decent interviewers these days that politicians cannot tie in knots with non answers to other questions they were not asked. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Bill Wright" wrote in message news Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. Bill |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marr programme
Brian Gaff wrote
I'd not call him left. More fool you. He is what all Labour was before the rich socialists decided to hijack the party. Which is about as left as you can get in mainstream politics in Britain, silly. The problem is that the rest of his party are rich socialists. Not all of them are rich. There seems to be an epidemic of trying to put various genies back into bottles around at the moment. There are no genies and no bottles. the federal EU the multiculturalism and traditional socialism trying to put the new lot back. That's always been the way politics works. Luckily I never saw either as the bbc has no decent interviewers these days that politicians cannot tie in knots with non answers to other questions they were not asked. Corbyn has never managed to do that. "Bill Wright" wrote in message news Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. Bill |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marr programme
"Bill Wright" wrote in message news
Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. It is obvious, really. Normal people need to be told that the person whose views they agree with is a bad individual. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. Bill |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marr programme
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Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Perhaps they expect viewers to know just a little about UK politics. But given the recent referendum, nothing at all about politics in EU countries. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Probably to establish if his mental illness had been passed on to her. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. Only you would mix up facts with meja invention. -- *The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on my list. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 13/11/16 20:01, Bill Wright wrote:
Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. The idea that there is any kind of equivalence between the Front National and the Labour party is preposterous. And since you have nothing to say to justify it your post is a waste of time. TW |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/16 12:23, TimW wrote:
On 13/11/16 20:01, Bill Wright wrote: Marr gave us a sort of 'health warning' before the le Pen interview, because she's 'far right'. No such warning before the Corbyn interview about him being 'far left'. Marine le Pen was pestered about her father's 30-year-old comments about the Holocaust. Corbyn on the other hand, wasn't even asked about the Labour Party's current anti-Semitism. The idea that there is any kind of equivalence between the Front National and the Labour party is preposterous. Well apart from their alleged anti-semitism, correct. The National Front speaks for the citizens of France. The Labour party speaks for the citizens of Islington. And since you have nothing to say to justify it your post is a waste of time. Just google "anti-semitism in corbyns labour party" and read some of the 230,000 results... TW -- But what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an hypothesis! Mary Wollstonecraft |
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BBC bias: Corbyn and le Penn interviewed on the Andrew Marrprogramme
On 14/11/2016 12:23, TimW wrote:
The idea that there is any kind of equivalence between the Front National and the Labour party is preposterous. Corbyn's party is extreme left. And since you have nothing to say to justify it your post is a waste of time. Hello? Bill |
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