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Been reading UK.D-I-Y at Google Groups for the last couple of years.
Thanks to the antics of the idiot cross-posters who appeared just before Christmas, it's now virtually unuseable. While we wait for the EU to realise the wisdom of euthanasing these morons for the good of the species, can anyone recommened a decent newsgroup reader for Mac OS X that will filter out the chaff and get back to the real business of Andy/IMM ding-dongs about cheap power tools and land reform? Thanks in advance, Mike |
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"mike" wrote in message om... Been reading UK.D-I-Y at Google Groups for the last couple of years. Thanks to the antics of the idiot cross-posters who appeared just before Christmas, it's now virtually unuseable. While we wait for the EU to realise the wisdom of euthanasing these morons for the good of the species, can anyone recommened a decent newsgroup reader for Mac OS X that will filter out the chaff and get back to the real business of Andy/IMM ding-dongs about cheap power tools and land reform? Thanks in advance, Mike The Apple UK website has a free e-mail and news reader software package on it I think, so it might be worth a look. |
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mike wrote:
Been reading UK.D-I-Y at Google Groups for the last couple of years. Thanks to the antics of the idiot cross-posters who appeared just before Christmas, it's now virtually unuseable. While we wait for the EU to realise the wisdom of euthanasing these morons for the good of the species, can anyone recommened a decent newsgroup reader for Mac OS X that will filter out the chaff and get back to the real business of Andy/IMM ding-dongs about cheap power tools and land reform? Thanks in advance, Mike If you use netscape, ou can hit 'K' to 'ignore thread' which is mostly what I do. |
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"mike" wrote in message om... Been reading UK.D-I-Y at Google Groups for the last couple of years. Thanks to the antics of the idiot cross-posters who appeared just before Christmas, it's now virtually unuseable. While we wait for the EU to realise the wisdom of euthanasing these morons for the good of the species, can anyone recommened a decent newsgroup reader for Mac OS X that will filter out the chaff and get back to the real business of Andy/IMM ding-dongs about cheap power tools and land reform? Thanks in advance, Mike 'fraid I can't point to anything for Macs or the UNIX OSs, but for windoze users the following info might be useful. I don't see any of these threads. At all. Well, unless some kind soul decides to continue the thread dropping the cross-posts. Why? Well, a while ago rec.woodworking was unfortunate to attract the attentions of these cross-posting spammers/purveyors of crap. Someone suggested using something called NewsProxy. It's a proxy filter that sits running on your PC and whichever newsreader you care to use points at that instead of your news server. It accepts regular expressions for filtering content, so your newsreader doesn't even get to see these filtered articles. This site has info about it... http://www.r-bonomi.com/rec.woodworking/index.html and I would suggest anyone interested also has a read through the various FAQs that are posted in rec.woodworking by David F Eisan, the one particularly of interest is posted regularly and is called "how to filter out the crap" or something like that. I would highly recommend this utility. Of course, I'm feeling a little guilty here 'cos I cross-posted a genuine question to uk.rec.gardening a while ago, and watched in amazement at the various twisty paths that the ensuing ridiculous flame war went down.... I'll know better next time. -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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On 19 Jan 2004 16:12:21 -0800, (mike) wrote:
While we wait for the EU to realise the wisdom of euthanasing these morons for the good of the species, can anyone recommened a decent newsgroup reader for Mac OS X that will filter out the chaff and get back to the real business of Andy/IMM ding-dongs about cheap power tools and land reform? SLRN is available for Mac OS X (and is excellent IMO): http://ebv.mimnet.northwestern.edu/~aiyar/slrn.html http://slrn.sourceforge.net/ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ - Stuart Millington ALL HTML e-mail rejected - - http://w3.z-add.co.uk/ - begin OE is broken read MS knowledgebase Q265230 |
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A really useful newsreader feature would be "ignore any item crossposted to
n or more newsgroups". n=3 or 4 would be about right. -- Laurie R |
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"Elessar" wrote in message
... A really useful newsreader feature would be "ignore any item crossposted to n or more newsgroups". n=3 or 4 would be about right. -- Laurie R see my post on newsproxy. filter rule of * drop xref:*:*:*:* does the trick. ie drop if xposted to = 4 groups. -- Richard Sampson email me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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In article 0,
mike ring writes: This post made me curious - during the troubles I wanted to do something about crossposts, but I couldn't work out how in Xnews, and anyhow it has an excellent one-press killfiler. So I never did filter cross-posting, but I haven't seen any more than the usual rough trade for weeks, and I kind of like to watch that. So is btinternet missing half the posts, I know the server is somewhat flaky by all the references to posts I never saw, though sometimes they turn up a few weeks later, my guess is that that BT retrained posties for IT. The rubbish is certainly being carried by BT's transit peers (I have two peering connections with them). It might be that BT clean it off their normal customer facing servers -- I've never used those. Theo other thing is what are you lot on? I've been getting over 300 posts a day for ages? uk.d-i-y with 30 day expirey currently has 10923 in my newspool after cancels. That's 364 articles/day plus whatever is cancelled (which I can't easily work out by newgroup, and would vary widely from one newsserver to another in any case). -- Andrew Gabriel |
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ring wrote: David Micklem wrote in news:200120041315541503% : Wasteland? Still 100's of on topic posts a day... but I have been filtering out the carp so I guess I don't know what I've been missing! This post made me curious - during the troubles I wanted to do something about crossposts, but I couldn't work out how in Xnews, and anyhow it has an excellent one-press killfiler. So I never did filter cross-posting, but I haven't seen any more than the usual rough trade for weeks, and I kind of like to watch that. No idea how bad it is now - but it was annoying enough around Xmas for me to bother setting up a filter. Dumping multiply (=5) cross-posted messages made them all instantly disappear. So is btinternet missing half the posts, I know the server is somewhat flaky by all the references to posts I never saw, though sometimes they turn up a few weeks later, my guess is that that BT retrained posties for IT. Theo other thing is what are you lot on? ntl I've been getting over 300 posts a day for ages? Yes, that sounds about right mike r On the earlier question of what newsreader to use on a Mac, the following page seems to have a fairly comprehensive list, with download links and reviews... http://www.macorchard.com/usenet.html Both MacSoup and YA/MT-NewsWatcher are highly praised - MacSOUP especially if you want/need to read offline. David -- Replace nospame with yahoo to reply Unsolicited commercial email will incur a $100 processing fee |
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mike ring wrote:
David Micklem wrote in news:200120041315541503% : Wasteland? Still 100's of on topic posts a day... but I have been filtering out the carp so I guess I don't know what I've been missing! This post made me curious - during the troubles I wanted to do something about crossposts, but I couldn't work out how in Xnews, and anyhow it has an excellent one-press killfiler. So I never did filter cross-posting, but I haven't seen any more than the usual rough trade for weeks, and I kind of like to watch that. So is btinternet missing half the posts, I know the server is somewhat flaky by all the references to posts I never saw, though sometimes they turn up a few weeks later, my guess is that that BT retrained posties for IT. Theo other thing is what are you lot on? Netscape, it allows me to 'ignore threads' OK I stll download em, but don't see em. I've been getting over 300 posts a day for ages? mike r |
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says... A really useful newsreader feature would be "ignore any item crossposted to n or more newsgroups". n=3 or 4 would be about right. I've just started trialling a free newsreader called Gravity (it's for Windows). It does that very easily and thereby kills the troublesome messages. There are so many configuration options that I'll be fiddling for while yet before deciding whether to stick with it, but haven't run up against any serious problems so far. Got mine from http://www.k7v.com/nonags/newsr.html W. |
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:34:42 +0000 (UTC), Woodspoiler
blinded us with this immortal piece of ..er not sure really..: In article , says... A really useful newsreader feature would be "ignore any item crossposted to n or more newsgroups". n=3 or 4 would be about right. I've just started trialling a free newsreader called Gravity (it's for Windows). It does that very easily and thereby kills the troublesome messages. There are so many configuration options that I'll be fiddling for while yet before deciding whether to stick with it, but haven't run up against any serious problems so far. Got mine from http://www.k7v.com/nonags/newsr.html W. Hi there use Free Agent or Agent and you can filter out either persons or groups or both. Works a treat. |
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In article , Woodspoiler
writes In article , says... A really useful newsreader feature would be "ignore any item crossposted to n or more newsgroups". n=3 or 4 would be about right. I've just started trialling a free newsreader called Gravity (it's for Windows). It does that very easily and thereby kills the troublesome messages. There are so many configuration options that I'll be fiddling for while yet before deciding whether to stick with it, but haven't run up against any serious problems so far. Got mine from http://www.k7v.com/nonags/newsr.html W. Turnpike 5.01 suits me fine -- Andrew |
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On 20 Jan 2004, Elessar wrote
A really useful newsreader feature would be "ignore any item crossposted to n or more newsgroups". n=3 or 4 would be about right. Xnews has precisely this feature -- http://Xnews.newsguy.com. -- Cheers, Harvey For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs. |
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On 26 Jan 2004, John Stumbles wrote
Harvey Van Sickle wrote: On 20 Jan 2004, Elessar wrote A really useful newsreader feature would be "ignore any item crossposted to n or more newsgroups". n=3 or 4 would be about right. Xnews has precisely this feature -- http://Xnews.newsguy.com. Can it be set to ignore the rest of a thread where more than say 60% of the articles are by Andy Hall and IMM? ;-) Actually, it probably can -- but I wouldn't know how to score it, myself. (A couple of years and a couple of re-installs ago, someone came up with a scoring entry for me that killed things if poster "A" was being responded to by poster "B", or vice versa. Both posters were worth reading -- as long as they weren't in the same thread.) -- Cheers, Harvey For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs. |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:22:31 -0800, John Stumbles
wrote: Can it be set to ignore the rest of a thread where more than say 60% of the articles are by Andy Hall and IMM? ;-) Now what's the point of taking a newsfeed when you know that over 50% of the posts on that newsfeed are going to be marked as "ignore"? ;) PoP Sending email to my published email address isn't guaranteed to reach me. |
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On 25 Jan 2004, PoP wrote
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:22:31 -0800, John Stumbles wrote: Can it be set to ignore the rest of a thread where more than say 60% of the articles are by Andy Hall and IMM? ;-) Now what's the point of taking a newsfeed when you know that over 50% of the posts on that newsfeed are going to be marked as "ignore"? ;) Fair 'nuff.... ;) -- Cheers, Harvey For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs. |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:22:31 +0000, John Stumbles wrote:
Harvey Van Sickle wrote: On 20 Jan 2004, Elessar wrote A really useful newsreader feature would be "ignore any item crossposted to n or more newsgroups". n=3 or 4 would be about right. Xnews has precisely this feature -- http://Xnews.newsguy.com. Can it be set to ignore the rest of a thread where more than say 60% of the articles are by Andy Hall and IMM? ;-) I've switched on filtering of all cross-posted articles with 5 or more groups this is currently removing 14% of the newgroup traffic. I find that with ABABABA ding-dong threads I just read the non-AB posts which will tell me where thread has got to (if anywhere). -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
On 20 Jan 2004, Elessar wrote A really useful newsreader feature would be "ignore any item crossposted to n or more newsgroups". n=3 or 4 would be about right. Xnews has precisely this feature -- http://Xnews.newsguy.com. Can it be set to ignore the rest of a thread where more than say 60% of the articles are by Andy Hall and IMM? ;-) John S |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:38:31 +0000, "Ed Sirett"
wrote: I've switched on filtering of all cross-posted articles with 5 or more groups this is currently removing 14% of the newgroup traffic. Sorry to ask a really dumb question - but does this imply that this newsgroup is under control of a moderator? I'm real happy if it is! It's just that I thought it was like all the other newsgroups, and a free-for-all. PoP Sending email to my published email address isn't guaranteed to reach me. |
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In uk.d-i-y, PoP wrote:
I've switched on filtering of all cross-posted articles with 5 or more groups this is currently removing 14% of the newgroup traffic. Sorry to ask a really dumb question - but does this imply that this newsgroup is under control of a moderator? No, not a bit. Remember the Internet's 'edge principle'? Dumn packet-shifting in the middle, intelligence at the edges. The idea extends to Usenet: *you*, with *your* *own* news client, are in ultimate charge of filtering. All the previous poster meant is that they're using their own reader/downloader's filtering rules to create a more pleasant reading experience for themselves. HTH - Stefek |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:05:24 +0000, PoP wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:38:31 +0000, "Ed Sirett" wrote: I've switched on filtering of all cross-posted articles with 5 or more groups this is currently removing 14% of the newgroup traffic. I meant that I have reduced the traffic of news group articles on my computer by 14%. Sorry to ask a really dumb question - but does this imply that this newsgroup is under control of a moderator? I'm real happy if it is! It's just that I thought it was like all the other newsgroups, and a free-for-all. No. I'd also run and dissappear if it had especially if I were the moderator! -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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